F-4 Phantom Who Wants it Poll

[RUS38]

Wonder why out of so many aircrafts people choose crappy su-22 and f-4. Will not buy either.

It would be great if LN carry on with mig series mig-25 foxbat being the next in the line or mig -29))

[chev255]

Leathernecks need to do an aircraft that was used by the Leather Necks = US Marines! So no choice: F-4 Phantom II!!

[leapingrodent]

Would be cool. At the very least I'd like to see an update to the current F4/F5 models...

[Devrim]

If I fly F-4 Phantom and Apache AH-64 before I die, definitely I'll die so happy. I still have hopes on those modules.

 

Someday... yes, someday my prince will come and release them. :D

[tusler]

And while you are making F-4's please give us the SEAD variant also so I can go after sams.:thumbup:

[dotChuckles]

Would love to see a Phantom as I can just about remember them shaking the ground at RAF Leuchars so vote yes. However someone should probably fix the poll so it's a little less trolling and obnoxious.

[stef57]

vote

[Injerin]

I Want it and I need it :)

[MoGas]

F-4 is a must have! With the upcoming map, a Iranian F-4 would be awsome.

[ESAc_matador]

Agree, Phantom is nice, but short after Su-22 ; >.

 

 

Fully agree. The version in this manual

https://www.google.es/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=jlEtVOPEFMvgOLO9gSA&url=http://www.f4phantom.com/docs/NATOPS-Flight-Manual-Navy-Model-RF-4B-Aircraft.pdf&cd=2&ved=0CCMQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNEj7KdKbJ5NqsOgu-58EghpcirXQg

 

Shows that RIO is quite simple, only few radar options, besides, the pilot has the screen in his panel. So, the solution could be both.

 

1st you can jump to copilot and AI helps the flyinG

 

2nd, just a windows with the controls of the radar, that, let's mention it, with our hotas, we have thousands of free knows and buttons to handle it.

 

Also, the AI can tell you where the bandit is, or the missile, it would be easy. Just random AI expertise. Good medium or blind guy. He can be killed, or deary due G force also

 

"Bandit, 3 o'clock low" like the padlock trick, but just the message in voice

"SAM, launch at 8"

 

Little bit else.

[Geskes]

If you go for such biased poll options why even do a poll.

 

-who says phantom is cool?

-who says trainers are lame

-who says planes besides the phantom are far flung

 

If you want to measure the facts, stick to the facts. This can only lead to a heavily biased outcome.

 

Abstained from voting ;-)

[Esac_mirmidon]

OMG

 

What a lack of humour sense.

[ghostdog688]

The thing is that with the phantom, there are other organisations who have tried and politely declined. They always say something akin the lines of 'it didn't work out with the licence restrictions'. VEAO tried to get the rights for the A4 (also made by McDonnell-Douglas), but quite honestly said that the licence fees made it too expensive to justify development. Given that the f4 is still in active service (although not for long), I would think the fees would be even more expensive. Also, to get the the level of fidelity we expect, we would really need to see true multi-crew support come up.

[zaelu]

Maybe after DCS World 2.0 will come out different approach will be possible... something like:

 

"You guys from MD-LM-NG, you are missing a great opportunity to make your company better viewed among press around the world and young people that searches for legendary icons to light their patriotism in their hearts.

The new ecosystem created around DCS World 2.0 is where you should invest to increase your position and rep in the eyes of the public and from which future advantages wold be drawn.

For a small production aid... say... 1 million$ we the "XYZ" third party developer in DCS World Ecosystem could recreate in stunning accuracy the F-xx plane created by your great company and help you remain in the minds of young people as a epic creator of heroic aircrafts of XX century.

 

yadayadadadadada"

 

DCS World should be filled with planes from all around the world so people that refused or asked absurd license conditions and fees for some of the planes would feel bad about themselves missing the opportunity.

 

:D

Edited January 1, 2015 by zaelu

[DaveRindner]

F-8 or Mirage3 would be more appropriate for MIG-21

 

F-4 would be great, BUUUUTTTT. F-8 Crusader, A-4 Skyhawk, or Mirage III would be more appropriate. F-4 has crew of two, and is a heavy aircraft, not optimal for ACM. F-8, on other hand, was a true MIG killer during Vietnam. A-4 and Mirage III, met MIG-21 in Vietnam and over Middle East.

[FlyingHighAU]

Would certainly prefer the F-14 I keep hearing about. But I wouldn't scoff at an F4 either.

[Elias75]

Better f5 tiger II

[King_Hrothgar]

The F-5E would be more fun I think but I'd grab either.

[dartuil]

I just want them to announce their next project.

[26-J39]

This whole thread is like a Dear Santa letter . lol :doh:

[Folgore1987]

So this poll wasn't started by someone that is part of Leatherneck sims?

 

VEAO said in their "Roadmap" thread that they will work on an EE Lightining, which should be eventually released. That could be an interesting combat between the two, maybe even better than against the F-4, despite the historical thing, which to me at least, is meaningless.

[Aginor]

So this poll wasn't started by someone that is part of Leatherneck sims?

 

VEAO said in their "Roadmap" thread that they will work on an EE Lightining, which should be eventually released. That could be an interesting combat between the two, maybe even better than against the F-4, despite the historical thing, which to me at least, is meaningless.

 

Correct, this thread including the poll was started by a normal user like you and me. :)

[Tomhatter]

While I would love the F-4 and will gladly buy one if it is ever devoloped, getting to take the Mig-21 or F-14 against each other, (which happened during the Iran-Iraq war), sounds pretty awesome as well.

 

 

The MiG-21 and the Tomcat are not even in the same class and once the fight's on it will become abundantly evident just how out classed the MiG is. If the F-14's weapon systems are accurately modeled, the MiG will never see the Tomcat or know just how dead it really is. NO comparison!

 

If you think it's difficult to down an F-15 with the MiG, not flown by an AI pilot!...

 

The Phantom would be a better match for the MiG.

 

See; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-54_Phoenix

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/AWG-9

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_F-14_Tomcat

[King_Hrothgar]

The F-5E, Mirage F.1 and F-104G would all be far more balanced with the MiG-21. But I don't think it will be as one sided as many think. Those big AIM-54's aren't the most agile of missiles and they certainly can't hit or track through the side of a mountain. I don't think evading them will be terribly difficult tbh.

 

All of this is rather moot though, the decision to do the F-14 was made many months ago. We'll probably see a video of it or at least a bunch of screenshots in the next newsletter.

[Revan]

The F-5E, Mirage F.1 and F-104G would all be far more balanced with the MiG-21. But I don't think it will be as one sided as many think. Those big AIM-54's aren't the most agile of missiles and they certainly can't hit or track through the side of a mountain. I don't think evading them will be terribly difficult tbh.

 

All of this is rather moot though, the decision to do the F-14 was made many months ago. We'll probably see a video of it or at least a bunch of screenshots in the next newsletter.

 

 

I assume that most people (like me) want the F-4 because of the Vietnam war, and the want to recreate some famous battles.

 

And I don't think that the F-104 ever fought MiG-21s, although I could be mistaken.