DCS World 1.5 and 2 Discussion

[bn880]

Me thinks you will change your mind when you get to play around with it yourself. :thumbup: :D

Ok Mr teaser, then can you just say if it runs faster or slower for you than DCS 1.2 on relatively the same settings? :D

[Sierra99]

NTTR NAVAIDS?

 

Hey guys, are the relevant and commonly used Nevada / TTR Navaids going to be available?

[Snoopy]

Hey guys, are the relevant and commonly used Nevada / TTR Navaids going to be available?

 

I sure hope so, I'd like to be able to use the real world approach and departure charts and not have to make new ones like we did for the current map.

[AtaliaA1]

Increased detail in our maps to 3D Quality Maps and the Jets (More Pixels anyone) They are turned down now in most modules for the sake of FPS. Adding the Real World weather and GPS among other requests in our "Wish List" section and I believe the need for a Quad Core Process is more relevant.

 

Buzzles Source??? Really?? reread the post please.

[SkateZilla]

As I was perusing my latest issue of "Boot Magazine", for those who remember fondly the beginning of our Passion. Of course it is now titled Maximum PC. I came across an interesting article on a start up company that is (as they say) capable of running older software on a new chip that changes the instructions to a multi core format, this being done "On the Fly" will allow DCS and other software code to run in a multi core environment with these new chips sans recoding. With an on the fly loss of just 5% (FPS/Speed) this is quite doable for our Beloved DCS Titles.

 

Several PC mags. and website have covered the story, in case U missed it.

A few articles have mentioned that they are "Well Funded" for those looking to invest, I am sure the shares are being snapped up as u read this.

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/visc-virtual-cores-cpu-performance,27958.html

 

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2838018/stealthy-startup-soft-machines-launches-virtual-cpu-cores-that-trounce-traditional-processors.html

 

 

 

VISC has been in development for a while, nothing new,

 

Intel tried it in the late 90s, to map dual Chip Server Boards as a Single Thread, and again when Dual Core/Quad Cores started to appear.

 

When you introduce a driver level thread controller, that not only manages resources at a software level, but controls the sync between threads that are not coded to be split at a software level, you will have issues.

 

A Hardware Level integration on the other hand is likely coming soon, where the System will see ONE THREAD / TWO THREADS but the chip itself will have 8-16 HGT Cores, Meaning there are different types of cores for different types of tasks (Serial and Parallel), and the cores can be dynamically re-configured at a hardware level by the processor to unlock or enable / disable blocks at a time as needed to complete the task, or if needed manually controlled by the user.

 

Everyone was quick to Bash SMT/FX-xxxx/BullDozer/PileDriver/SteamRoller/Excavator for weak Single Core IPC, however, if you take a hardware level controller, Those 8 Cores become One Massive Core.

 

We'll have to wait and see what happens,

 

But once AMD gets their new CMT Chip out next year, I'm betting both companies will invest in a Hardware Level Controller to dynamically map Software to a Single Hardware thread utilizing multiple Cores to do the work.

Edited February 7, 2015 by SkateZilla

[tobyeez]

Have the CBU-97 issues been fixed in this new engine. It's quite disconcerting when they explode and the game drops to a crawl. It's strange that this was not found through design.

[rcjonessnp175]

Have the CBU-97 issues been fixed in this new engine. It's quite disconcerting when they explode and the game drops to a crawl. It's strange that this was not found through design.

 

That and a few other weapon systems is a known issue. I imagine things such as that will be greatly improved in new engine.

[outlawal2]

All of these posts lamenting the fact that ED hasn't provided exact specs for DCS 2.0? Once again of course they aren't going to say anything because the software isn't done yet..

I can only IMAGINE the screaming that would ensue if ED released a spec and then had to change it later.

The HORRORS! You folks would have a friggin cow..

 

AGAIN

 

Anyway, there is plenty of information that HAS been provided if you look at what has been said and done.

 

Multi-core is NOT supported... (So pretty much the same rule applies going forward. Buy the fastest MHZ I-5 that you can get your hands on or spend some extra and get the I7 if you do video processing.

 

Memory is currently something like MIN 6Gig.. So buy 16 and you should be good.. 32 and you are future proof. (I would BUY 16 Gig but have a mainboard that could take 32.)

 

Current DCS 2.0 testers have stated existing DirectX 11 cards are being used for testing and that multi-GPUs are supported. So considering that BOTH AMD and Nvidia have issues, pick the one that you are the least mad at and buy one (or 2). I still think the Nvidia thing is overblown so I would buy 2 970gtx's...

 

It isn't that difficult folks if you look at what they HAVE said..

 

So my fairy tale system based on the above would be:

Core I5 (Fastest I could find)

With 32 MEGS RAM,

2 970GTX video cards in SLI

Windows 7 or Windows 10 64 bit (Depends on when I bought the equipment.)

Closed loop water cooler for ease of build

FATALITY 850 power supply

 

Plenty of horsepower for whatever you are going to do in the next 2 or 3 years including DCS 2.0...

Edited February 7, 2015 by outlawal2

[Buckeye]

All of these posts lamenting the fact that ED hasn't provided exact specs for DCS 2.0? Once again of course they aren't going to say anything because the software isn't done yet..

I can only IMAGINE the screaming that would ensue if ED released a spec and then had to change it later.

The HORRORS! You folks would have a friggin cow..

 

AGAIN

 

Anyway, there is plenty of information that HAS been provided if you look at what has been said and done.

 

Multi-core is NOT supported... (So pretty much the same rule applies going forward. Buy the fastest MHZ I-5 that you can get your hands on or spend some extra and get the I7 if you do video processing.

 

Memory is currently something like MIN 6Gig.. So buy 16 and you should be good.. 32 and you are future proof. (I would BUY 16 Gig but have a mainboard that could take 32.)

 

Current DCS 2.0 testers have stated existing DirectX 11 cards are being used for testing and that multi-GPUs are supported. So considering that BOTH AMD and Nvidia have issues, pick the one that you are the least mad at and buy one (or 2). I still think the Nvidia thing is overblown so I would buy 2 970gtx's...

 

It isn't that difficult folks if you look at what they HAVE said..

 

So my fairy tale system based on the above would be:

Core I5 (Fastest I could find)

With 32 MEGS RAM,

2 970GTX video cards in SLI

Windows 7 or Windows 10 64 bit (Depends on when I bought the equipment.)

Closed loop water cooler for ease of build

FATALITY 850 power supply

 

Plenty of horsepower for whatever you are going to do in the next 2 or 3 years including DCS 2.0...

 

Agreed, good post. I'd go for the fastest 16GB of RAM you could afford and make sure you have a SSD.

 

I just built the rig in my sig around Christmas time with 2.0 in mind. I figured if I built it to such a high standard, I had so really worry of not being able to run 2.0 how I'd like to.

[Exorcet]

All of these posts lamenting the fact that ED hasn't provided exact specs for DCS 2.0? Once again of course they aren't going to say anything because the software isn't done yet..

I can only IMAGINE the screaming that would ensue if ED released a spec and then had to change it later.

The HORRORS! You folks would have a friggin cow..

 

AGAIN

 

Anyway, there is plenty of information that HAS been provided if you look at what has been said and done.

 

Multi-core is NOT supported... (So pretty much the same rule applies going forward. Buy the fastest MHZ I-5 that you can get your hands on or spend some extra and get the I7 if you do video processing.

 

Memory is currently something like MIN 6Gig.. So buy 16 and you should be good.. 32 and you are future proof. (I would BUY 16 Gig but have a mainboard that could take 32.)

 

Current DCS 2.0 testers have stated existing DirectX 11 cards are being used for testing and that multi-GPUs are supported. So considering that BOTH AMD and Nvidia have issues, pick the one that you are the least mad at and buy one (or 2). I still think the Nvidia thing is overblown so I would buy 2 970gtx's...

 

It isn't that difficult folks if you look at what they HAVE said..

 

So my fairy tale system based on the above would be:

Core I5 (Fastest I could find)

With 32 MEGS RAM,

2 970GTX video cards in SLI

Windows 7 or Windows 10 64 bit (Depends on when I bought the equipment.)

Closed loop water cooler for ease of build

FATALITY 850 power supply

 

Plenty of horsepower for whatever you are going to do in the next 2 or 3 years including DCS 2.0...

 

Yes I agree. I'm waiting for DCS 2 to build, and while I can't finalize anything it hasn't stopped me from throwing ideas around. I'm not a computer nut so I've taken the opportunity to get more familiar with hardware and stats and also look at what is coming in the future.

 

We know at the very least that the goals with EDGE were to improve visuals and performance, so it should run better than it does now on comparable hardware (just know that you need DX11 to take advantage of it).

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/

 

A good site for putting ideas together.

[SkateZilla]

 

Current DCS 2.0 testers have stated existing DirectX 11 cards are being used for testing and that multi-GPUs are supported. So considering that BOTH AMD and Nvidia have issues, pick the one that you are the least mad at and buy one (or 2). I still think the Nvidia thing is overblown so I would buy 2 970gtx's...

 

Considering 2.0 is DX11, DX11 Cards are all you can use, lol :joystick: :pilotfly:

[NoJoe]

It's time for me to upgrade to 16GB of RAM. I have 8 right now, and I fairly regularly run out when I'm flying DCS or X-Plane. Though to be fair I usually also have music playing, at least several browser tabs open, and sometimes a movie playing at the same time.

 

More RAM never hurts. I figure I'll spec my computer for other demanding games I play, and DCS 2.0 will just fit in nicely when it comes out.

[Sukhoi25]

Pay or freeware? When will it be released?

[cichlidfan]

Pay or freeware? When will it be released?

 

DCS 2.0?

 

The second sentence, under DCS World 2, in the first post of this thread.

 

It will be a FREE update and all of your DCS World module keys will work with it.

[Sukhoi25]

Thanks! Oh yes. Also the Nevada map will be free? :-)

Edited February 7, 2015 by Sukhoi25
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[uboats]

Thanks! Oh yes. Also the Nevada map will be free? :-)

 

of course NOT ;)

[Sukhoi25]

And then, what are my advantages in downloding DCSW2?

[kontiuka]

And then, what are my advantages in downloding DCSW2?

The Nevada map is free to A-10C beta purchasers. To the rest of us, it is pay ware. However, with DCS World 2.0 (which IS free), you will see several improvements even in the Georgia map (performance, graphics, etc.) Just read the first post of this thread. It's all there.

[rrohde]

I do like the idea of the monitor mounting arm. That's one of the issues that prevents me from getting one of those dedicated gaming seats with a static monitor mount -- it's too far away. I've added that mount to my newegg wishlist. Coming soon to a desk near me. ;)

[Exorcet]

It's time for me to upgrade to 16GB of RAM. I have 8 right now, and I fairly regularly run out when I'm flying DCS or X-Plane. Though to be fair I usually also have music playing, at least several browser tabs open, and sometimes a movie playing at the same time.

 

More RAM never hurts. I figure I'll spec my computer for other demanding games I play, and DCS 2.0 will just fit in nicely when it comes out.

 

8 GB will get you pretty far right now if you dedicate it to DCS. I have problems only when I leave a long session of Firefox open and try to use the sim. I'm going 16 GB+ for my dedicated DCS build though.

 

OK. I am not so willing in download it.... :banghead:

It is an update to the game, if you don't download it you will be stuck on an old version. This will be the most significant update by far though. Back before the days of DLC it might have been called a sequel.

[SkateZilla]

64 GB and set 32 GB as a Ram Drive :)

[upupandaway]

I´m just wondering if DCSW 2 is also going to introduce new cloud features that would allow for a more fluid transition between cloud layers and ground fog. Currently, there is still a noticeable gap/transition because of highest fog and lowest could setting.

Just got the idea whilst lookiung at a few screenshots from P3D v2, where some clouds are hanging very low on the slopes of some hills.

[NineLine]

Just saw the new video tutorial for the Mig-15 Bis.

 

Apparently Nevada map color tuning is still underway, now the terrain appears more greyish than previous vids.

 

Chit-chatting :)

 

It's simply a different time of day...

[fearlessfrog]

Our DCS 2 Hands-on write-up is ready here - enjoy:

 

http://www.mudspike.com/exclusive-dcs-world-2-hands-on/

 

A nice write-up by Erik, and thanks to Matt for his time - appreciated!

Edited February 10, 2015 by fearlessfrog

[VTJS17_Fire]

Thanks for the hands-on. Very good reading. :thumbup: