DCS World 1.5 and 2 Discussion

[NineLine]

There is a difference between supporting dx11 and having it as minimum requirement

 

A small confirmation by sithspawn would be great if he is allowed to tell :music_whistling:

 

Everything I know/can say is in the first post. If I was a gambling man, I would say gambling on your non-Dx11 card doing well with 2.0 is a bad bet.

[TomCatMucDe]

a simple question to the external testers. have you started? :)

Edited June 10, 2015 by TomCatMucDe

[NineLine]

a simple question to the external testers. have you started? :)

 

Simple answer to you. NDA ;)

[Svend_Dellepude]

A little update:

 

Today we reached a significant milestone of moving the NTTR map into full internal testing such that our external testers can now pound on it.

 

There are still several blocking bugs, but we are working hard to resolve them has fast as we can.

 

As mentioned in the first post of this thread, let's all try to keep on topic please.

 

Thanks

 

a simple question to the external testers. have you started? :)

 

Seems so..

[TomCatMucDe]

Simple answer to you. NDA ;)

 

even for a "yes"?? :)

[NineLine]

even for a "yes"?? :)

 

Saying yes or no is disclosing something, I signed a non-discloser agreement ;)

 

As stated above, Wags already commented on that.

[SkateZilla]

DirectX11, its safe to assume the safe minimum DirectX Support is 11,

 

There are ways of running DX11 on DX9 cards but its a feature of DX11 and only a handful of titles actually use it (by limiting the DX11Supoort Level to DX9 items, and making a toggle between full DX 11 ( feature level 11_1) Support Level Items and a Lower Support Level (Feature Level 9_1/9_2/9_3) (DX9 items),

 

the GUI would say DirectX11 or DirectX9 when choosing a renderer, but the base is all DX11, just using different Feature Levels, (ie Shogun II)

 

This feature was Introduced in DX11 to allow developers to Support Multiple DX Versions without having to rewrite the renderer for each DX Level.

 

There are multiple feature levels,

9_1,9_2,9_3

10_0,10_1

11_0,11_1,11_2

12_0,12_1,12_3 etc

 

Whether or not ED is choosing,(or able) to use these and allow / support different feature levels is unknown/unconfirmed, the new engine maynot even allow limiting feature set to 9_x. As the whole point of moving to DX11 was because of the limits of DX9.

 

Just because the feature levels exist in DX11.doesnt mean every engine can use them.

Edited June 10, 2015 by SkateZilla

[Sukhoi25]

Will DCSW2.0 have compatibilty with DirectX DX12 which will be released with Windows 10?

[SkateZilla]

Will DCSW2.0 have compatibilty with DirectX DX12 which will be released with Windows 10?

 

EDGE uses DX11, DX12 isnt released yet, theres not point.

[Griffon26]

I really look forward to DCS2.0 hopefully with Collisionable trees, signs and so on ;) Also I would really like to see more Combined Arms Stuff like new models and HUD if there some.

 

Also pls dont blame me for that Question I hadnt had much time to read the news the past weeks/months but are there any plans about new Planes for the KI? Like F35, Harrier, F22 and of course some Red Fractioned Planes. Whats about new Choppers?

 

And finally new countrys? China would be a good Choice if you ask me ;)

 

As I said pls excuse that question something like that had been answered many times I guess...

 

Regards Griffon26

[Buzzles]

Also pls dont blame me for that Question I hadnt had much time to read the news the past weeks/months but are there any plans about new Planes for the KI? Like F35, Harrier, F22 and of course some Red Fractioned Planes. Whats about new Choppers?

 

See here:

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=116893

 

You're very very unlikely to see the F22 in DCS, slightly less unlikely for the F35 but still almost 0% chance.

[DAZnBLAST]

Might have already been asked, but will DCS World 2 be compatible with Windows 10 given that most people with Windows 7 SP1 or Windows 8.1 are getting Windows 10 free on July 29th. Obviously you have to have Windows Update enabled to know this information.

Edited June 10, 2015 by DAZnBLAST

[SkateZilla]

Might have already been asked, but will DCS World 2 be compatible with Windows 10 given that most people with Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 8.1 are getting Windows 10 free on July 29th. Obviously you have to have Windows Update enabled to know this information.

 

Windows 10 isnt released yet, the Tech Preview shouldnt be used to test compatibility as it changes.

[DAZnBLAST]

So there is no-one in the ED/DCS family that has early access to this new OS then? Guess that means DCS World 2 will definitely have to come after Windows 10 is released for it to be tested on that OS!

 

Saying that, there's always compatibility mode!

Edited June 10, 2015 by DAZnBLAST

[Python]

Not necessarily, but Windows 10 isn't that far away in reality anyway.

[hannibal]

LOS and sensor blocking by obstacles, not mentioning the trees colidable with missiles and projectiles would be a real gamechanger for the helos.

 

I hope... wait ... I pray for that :cry:

 

i wonder if trees will be destructible...

 

you know, like the minigun doing a number to a forest akin to jesse ventura trying to unload on the predator..

[cichlidfan]

i wonder if trees will be destructible...

 

you know, like the minigun doing a number to a forest akin to jesse ventura trying to unload on the predator..

 

As excellent as that would be, I am doubtful.

[SkateZilla]

So there is no-one in the ED/DCS family that has early access to this new OS then? Guess that means DCS World 2 will definitely have to come after Windows 10 is released for it to be tested on that OS!

 

Saying that, there's always compatibility mode!

 

I have the latest wndows 10 build, however, like I said, its patched daily, no point saying DCS works when they have 30+ days of patches that can break anything.

 

Compat. Mode doesnt always work.

 

I have Win98 apps that stilk dont install and /or run wven when set to use Win98 C.M.

[Neon67]

DirectX11, its safe to assume the safe minimum DirectX Support is 11,

 

There are ways of running DX11 on DX9 cards but its a feature of DX11 and only a handful of titles actually use it (by limiting the DX11Supoort Level to DX9 items, and making a toggle between full DX 11 ( feature level 11_1) Support Level Items and a Lower Support Level (Feature Level 9_1/9_2/9_3) (DX9 items),

 

the GUI would say DirectX11 or DirectX9 when choosing a renderer, but the base is all DX11, just using different Feature Levels, (ie Shogun II)

 

This feature was Introduced in DX11 to allow developers to Support Multiple DX Versions without having to rewrite the renderer for each DX Level.

 

There are multiple feature levels,

9_1,9_2,9_3

10_0,10_1

11_0,11_1,11_2

12_0,12_1,12_3 etc

 

Whether or not ED is choosing,(or able) to use these and allow / support different feature levels is unknown/unconfirmed, the new engine maynot even allow limiting feature set to 9_x. As the whole point of moving to DX11 was because of the limits of DX9.

 

Just because the feature levels exist in DX11.doesnt mean every engine can use them.

 

Thanks for the clarification :thumbup:

[joebloggs]

I really look forward to DCS2.0 hopefully with Collisionable trees.

 

I can't help but wonder if DCS 2 is close to release or still some way of when questions like this still haven't been answered. I would have thought if it was close that this is something that is known already. I'm not bothered by the trees myself because I fly jets, but I can understand people's eagerness to know if they fly choppers.

 

One thing I'd like to know, but not sure if it can be answered, is will you be able to limit the scenery and things if your FPS struggle?

[NineLine]

I can't help but wonder if DCS 2 is close to release or still some way of when questions like this cant be answered. I would have thought if it was close that this is something that is known already. I'm not bothered by the trees myself because I fly jets, but I can understand people's eagerness to know if they fly choppers.

 

One thing I'd like to know, but not sure if it can be answered. Will you be able to limit the scenary and things if your FPS struggle?

 

They have already answered about collisions with trees as far as I know... oh look, its in the first post ;)

 

 

Guys, before you ask your question, read the first post 3 times... and then 1 more time for extra measure... and after that, check the edit date to make sure Wags didnt ninja edit it... I try and point out when he adds something, but sometimes things get missed.

[Sukhoi25]

Will DCSW2.0 bring signifiant changes for aircraft modelling? So someone like SvkSniper that's developing a MiG-23ML should redo all or are DCSW and DCSW2.0 aircrafts compatible?

 

 

Which benefits will have Su-25T and Ka-50 customers? :D

Edited June 12, 2015 by Sukhoi25

[NineLine]

Will DCSW2.0 bring signifiant changes for aircraft moduling? So someone like SvkSnipee that's developing a MiG-23ML should redo all or are DCSW and DCSW2.0 aircrafts compatible?

 

 

Which benefits will have Su-25T and Ka-50 customers? :D

 

Modeling shouldnt change much, I think the standards you are seeing ED pump out, along with 3rd parties is the benchmark.... thats just an educated guess though...

[Roadrunner]

Can we get all the people who are so concerned with having tree collisions to promise us that if they ever read "Chickenhawk" they won't come back to complain that DCS Huey can't cut its own landing area in a forest. :)

 

that was indeed a nice read, but i also dont think we will be able to do just that, oh, for the book, i would have liked to see those rotorblades when he finaly shut down the huey :D

[Stacker]

From my developer point of view, I'm looking forward to getting under the hood with DCS2. In particular I wonder what goodies (if any) we are going to get with the scripting environment. I notice that Wags mentioned mission editor improvements, it'll be interesting if that also translates into scripting API updates etc..