Hadwell Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Their supposed to be out before the F-14 (I believe) so they'll be WW2 fighters, something not as complicated. My youtube channel Remember: the fun is in the fight, not the kill, so say NO! to the AIM-120. System specs:ROG Maximus XI Hero, Intel I9 9900K, 32GB 3200MHz ram, EVGA 1080ti FTW3, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB NVME, 27" Samsung SA350 1080p, 27" BenQ GW2765HT 1440p, ASUS ROG PG278Q 1440p G-SYNC Controls: Saitekt rudder pedals,Virpil MongoosT50 throttle, warBRD base, CM2 stick, TrackIR 5+pro clip, WMR VR headset. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
WinterH Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Last we have heard from Cobra, it was said to be late August anyway. Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script
Tirak Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 There is also quite a bit of August to go through yet. Yep, and also let's not forget that in Leatherneck Time, or LNT, each month lasts two weeks into the next month :lol:
Dudikoff Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 There's a thread for such speculation already: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=140135&page=55 i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar!
pepin1234 Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 (edited) Yes... I would like a Mig-25 PD but I am not sure if ED have it in the internal roadmap. The Mig-25 is an important aircraft of the could War and still have records. Very important aircraft... Anyway Wags said in the video is not planed. If they finish the current aircrafts and finish the maps, improving the CA. Then after that they can make the Mig-25. My opinion... Mig-23 and F-4 are first. Edited August 11, 2015 by pepin1234 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Mobius_cz Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Yes... I would like a Mig-25 PD but I am not sure if ED have it in the internal roadmap. The Mig-25 is an important aircraft of the could War and still have records. Very important aircraft... Anyway Wags said in the video is not planed. If they finish the current aircrafts and finish the maps, improving the CA. Then after that they can make the Mig-25. My opinion... Mig-23 and F-4 are first. In one interview cobra said they will make Mig-23 so this is also my tip for one of those aircraft (maybe it can even be test platform for folded wing design). Wags said something like that by his opinion there are more interesting aircrafts like Mig-25 and Mig-31. Well, Mig-25 is very very fast hight altitude intercepter with some A/G capability. I don't know if it is "as boring as Wags said". We will see. We shall see. For the F-4. Cobra once said it is much more complicated aircraft to develop than Mig-21 but he never said they will not make one as far as i remember. I am more interested in F-14 than F-4. [sIGPIC]http://dcs-uvp.cz/images/userbars/uvp_bars_mic.gif[/sIGPIC]
Buren Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Hints and speculation suggests that the other two airframes [besides the F-14] are the swedish Viggen and the F4U Corsair. The MiG-23 might be too similar to the '21 systems-wise and role, so the team might lean towards variety over a set theme [i.e. doing soviet-made warsaw pact aircraft]. The Su-17/22 is apparently not too popular, which is a shame. The MiG-25 is excessively mythicized IMHO. In practice it'd be too much restricted and not fun. I'd rather have a bomber (F-111, Su-24, A-6 etc.). The biggest problem I see with the Phantom... is what variant and block and timeframe to choose? Early Vietnam? Late Vietnam? Post-Vietnam? Navy? Marine Corps? Gun-nose Air Force? Without-Gun Air Force? AGM-65 capability? Wild Weasel? Modernized glass-cockpit Turkish/Greek/Japanese variant? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Danneskjold Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 The biggest problem I see with the Phantom... is what variant and block and timeframe to choose? Early Vietnam? Late Vietnam? Post-Vietnam? Navy? Marine Corps? Gun-nose Air Force? Without-Gun Air Force? AGM-65 capability? Wild Weasel? Modernized glass-cockpit Turkish/Greek/Japanese variant? All of the above.
didilman Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 I hope one is mig-25 or atleast 23 russian air force need a fighter in full dcs level with clickable cockpit. Something that can BVR.
emg Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 (edited) since both are poorly classified F-4 is still sensitive, it's in active use by NATO air forces. But so is M2000, A-10C, Hornet, so I don't think this matters if you make an old variant. The biggest problem I see with the Phantom... is what variant and block and timeframe to choose? It's not a problem, just choose one and make it. ;) But anyway they haven't been hinting at a Phantom the way they've hinted at other planes. Edited August 11, 2015 by emg
tacky_taco Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Whatever they are I hope they have better training missions!
Grim_Smiles Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Not sure why we needed a new thread for this, but I guess the old one was getting long in the tooth. thanks for replying but I have heard that both of their module require new breakthroughs in their technology such as ground radar so I think WWII things may come out afterwards Breakthroughs as in coding something new for DCS, he didn't say that examples like ground radar applied to both projects or that this tech means equipment in the aircraft. Programming a carrier capable WWII aircraft would be a new tech breakthrough for DCS because nobody has done it yet. Cobra also made a statement that only one of the aircraft in production is modern, so the theory that both are modern aircraft doesn't hold up to Cobra's own comments. While it is always possible that things changed behind the scenes and that some other project jumped ahead, Cobra hasn't said anything about that happening so that would just be speculation on our part. All we know for sure currently is that he stated one was modern. "Hurled headlong flaming from the ethereal sky; With hideous ruin and combustion down; To bottomless perdition, there to dwell; In adamantine chains and penal fire" (RIG info is outdated, will update at some point) i5 @3.7GHz (OC to 4.1), 16GB DDR3, Nvidia GTX 970 4GB, TrackIR 5 & TrackClip Pro, TM Warthog HOTAS, VKB T-Rudder Mk.IV, Razer Blackshark Headset, Obutto Ozone
TaccoZ__Amigo1__ Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 I really really hope there is an F-4 somewhere in the mix, just gotta love that plane! Death is just nature's way of telling you to watch your airspeed. :pilotfly: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
TaccoZ__Amigo1__ Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 You cannot simply go over Russian air defenses and feel safe anymore, at least with anything short of a satellite. *cough* Black *cough* bird *cough* :music_whistling: Death is just nature's way of telling you to watch your airspeed. :pilotfly: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Wizard_03 Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 *cough* Black *cough* bird *cough* :music_whistling: And what happened to the SR-71 and B-1A and YF-12, and XB-70..:) DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer:
King_Hrothgar Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 The next question is, "what is modern?" That's something that's bothered me too. Many here take a lot of liberties with the word "modern." I've seen it stretched to mean anything post WW2 by some. I'm much more strict when I say modern as I don't consider the F-14 modern and find the F/A-18C questionable. I'm not sure where Cobra falls on the spectrum. In regards to the MiG-25PD and F-4, they don't fit the hints provided. Yes, I'd love to have them and both are high on my wishlist for fixed wing aircraft, but they don't appear to be in the works by anyone. And the MiG-25 is a plane that's a bit controversial. The problem is it's basically the 1970's equivalent of an Me-262. Flown properly, it should be untouchable but flown properly is a way that many players would find boring. Hence some would love it while many others would hate it.
BlackLion213 Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 That's something that's bothered me too. Many here take a lot of liberties with the word "modern." I've seen it stretched to mean anything post WW2 by some. I'm much more strict when I say modern as I don't consider the F-14 modern and find the F/A-18C questionable. I'm not sure where Cobra falls on the spectrum. I'm with you on that, really nebulous. If I were to guess, most probably use it to refer to aircraft that generally practice warfare using similar tools even though those tools have been hugely refined over the years. I sort of consider an air superiority aircraft that is optimized/able to use missiles and has a reasonably effective radar (preferably look-down/shoot-down) to be "modern". Even if the pilot interface, sensor capabilities, and weapons capabilities have evolved considerably, the general face of air combat is similar for those aircraft (compared to say MG/cannon armed aircraft). Though so many aircraft now have such long service lives that it muddles the usual distinctions - the B-52 is still operational and therefore more modern than the F-111F or EA-6B?? And worse, many "vintage" fighters could still be a real threat with radar/avionics upgrades (F-14B /D with AMRAAMS and APG-71 for example). Hopefully they'll simply tell us in the next month or so. -Nick
kingfish Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 And what happened to the SR-71 and B-1A and YF-12, and XB-70..:) They did their jobs admirably but the political scene changed such that they were no longer necessary. and in the case of the B-1, eventually got modernized to fit the new political landscape, and are still incredibly useful. I mostly fly the F-18, and mostly as a flight sim rather than a combat sim. Gigabyte Aorus Pro Wifi, Ryzen 5 3600, GTX 1080, 16gb DDR4 3600, Valve Index TM Stick/Throttle, Saitek Pedals, VAICOM
King_Hrothgar Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 In the case of the SR-71, the MiG-31 happened.
dartuil Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 I hope its not WW bird I have anough WW planes. But i know one is WW fighter. i7 2600k -- Noctua NH-D14--Asrock Z75 Pro3--ASUS GTX970 Strix --16Go Ripjaws X 1333--Thermaltake Smart M650--CoolerMaster Silencio 652S--AOC E2752VQ-- Sandisk Extreme II 480GB--Saitek X-52 Pro --SAITEK PZ35 Pedals
Flycat Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 aerobatic plane is great! Su-26 is a good choice, lol. work as the trainer with passion and excitement.
Tirak Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 In the case of the SR-71, the MiG-31 happened. Except the SR-71 can hit Mach 3.5 for short periods and has a standard cruise of Mach 3.3, whereas the MiG-31 has a speed of Mach 2.83, an cruises at Mach 2.35. I'll put my money on the Blackbird thank you very much :smartass:
Buren Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 The next question is, "what is modern?" Preferably anything post-Korean War. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
AussieGhost789 Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 Just quietly hoping for an F-111 >.> [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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