DCS: F-5E!

[mattebubben]

tiger can find something at 100nm, but still need to creep into 5nm to launch its missile.

hope the target won't find the hunter is running after him.

its RWR had been removed by mechanic in order to exchange vodka, plz keep secret.

 

in what universe can a F-5E Tiger II find a target at 100nm?...

 

The F-5E we are getting is equipped with the APQ-159 radar.

 

So it has a around 37 KM range (about 23 NM)

 

(Against a Small fighter sized target)

 

And also the Mig-21 is not that advanced.

 

All you can tell is there is someone in the general direction you cant say what it is or how far.

 

The Mig-21 has no longer radar range then the F-5E (Slightly shorter actually) but the F-5E radar is over all better.

 

(And Its RWR is leagues better)

 

Ps. Do i really need to Repeat this every one or two pages?...

[Vampyre]

Ps. Do i really need to Repeat this every one or two pages?...

 

Evidently, yes.:thumbup:

 

Personally, I would have been copying and pasting a long time ago.

[probad]

i wouldnt really stress the missile count advantage of the mig-21, since its the quality of your shot and not the quantity that matters.

[ViFF]

Funny thing about, EL/M2032 :

 

As stated, it does not belong in the baseline F-5E we are getting, rather it is on some of the upgraded F-5 types. Aaaandd... also upgraded MiG-21 LanceR as operated by Romania :).

 

So it is interestingly used on both F-5 and MiG-21 upgrades :).

 

Thats because its an Israeli radar.

 

Manufactured by ELTA Division of IAI (Israel Aerospace Industries).

 

From what I remember this was an upgrade program for the Brazilian F-5E and included ability for AIM-9 or Python 4 AAM on the outer underwing pylons (total of 4x AAM capability). Radar guided AAM capability of this program was for the Rafael Derby active radar guided missile.

 

edit: Elbit was the main contractor for the Brazilian F-5 upgrade program with IAI's ELTA Division a subcontractor. IAI on its own actually have quite a few variations of the program and have delivered to some other countries including Chile, Turkey, Spain and even the USAF!

 

http://www.iai.co.il/2013/17866-37523-en/Business_Areas_Military_Aircraft_Upgrades.aspx

 

 

The was another program with the EL/M2032 for the Romanian MiG-21 LanceR as stated.

 

Cheers!

Edited May 19, 2016 by ViFF

[Kev2go]

Looks like there is a delay and it won't come this month: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2781413&postcount=26

It's now supposed to come in "summer" as a beta and not this month as has been said in one of the recent newsletters (http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2737668&postcount=23). :(

Well, business as usual I guess^^

 

 

early acccess alpha isnt the same thing as beta.

 

so while beta might be summer, alpha or early access release could still be sooner :smilewink:

[Darkbrotherhood7]

Does the F-5E have any BVR missile?

[MYSE1234]

F-5E teaser released on Belsimtek's Youtube.

 

[ame]

[/ame]

[grunf]

Comming July 2016.

[Kayos]

AWESOME!

[probad]

nice

 

my body is ready

 

0:12 the pilot's visor comes down in sync with the canopy, it's a little too cool

Edited May 19, 2016 by probad

[ThorBrasil]

tomorrow begins the pre-sale.

http://www.belsimtek.com/news/1641/

[mattebubben]

Does the F-5E have any BVR missile?

 

No.

 

The standard F-5E we are getting Is armed with Aim-9s only.

 

At the Very Least rear aspect Aim-9B and Aim-9P3 but hopefully they will add either the Aim-9P4 Or Aim-9P5 All aspect variants as well (That would be 100% realistic as many if not most of the Major Users of the F-5E has been using the All aspect variants since the 80s/90s)

 

So IR missiles only no Radar guided or BVR missiles but they should be more then enough to counter Mig-21s especially if we get one of the All Aspect Aim-9P variants.

[Kev2go]

Does the F-5E have any BVR missile?

 

nope.

 

 

only modernized ones like the ones used by Brazilian AF have Aim120 capabilty.

[Kelevra9987]

Well, there we have another delay of just 1-2 Months. :(

[splash]

And four AIM-9 would be possible?

[Raven68]

Well, there we have another delay of just 1-2 Months. :(

 

This from the Belsimtek website...

 

F-5E Tiger II module development has transitioned to the final phase. Current level is already close to the “early access” requirements. April tasks for works on the project are completed. Especially we are proud with the progress in flight dynamics, its fine tuning. The full English manual and interactive tutorial missions are being completed. With the active help of volunteers in English manuals corrections we’ve managed to increase module readiness level by the time customers get “early access” product.

 

 

Nevertheless the model is very complex, it’s not possible to identify all the issues with our internal tester team, and therefore we’ve decided to keep the two stage scheme: “Early access” at first, some time for customer testing and then – “Release”.

 

The pre-purchase for F-5E Tiger II will be available on May 20, 2016! Purchasing the module now saves 20% from its full price during “Early access” and “Release”, as well as adds 20% from full price to your bonus account!

 

In reference to the statements in bold it makes me wonder with the 2 stage scheme and the promoted release being in July will early access possibly be for June?

[Vitormouraa]

This from the Belsimtek website...

 

 

 

In reference to the statements in bold it makes me wonder with the 2 stage scheme and the promoted release being in July will early access possible be for June?

 

Even the May, could be.. no? We still have 11 days untill the next month. :)

[Pocket Sized]

I know very little about the F-5... (Didn't even know what it looked like until a few weeks ago) What is it going to bring to the table? Being limited to WVR makes me think it won't stand a chance against modern fighters. (Feel free to correct me)

 

Somebody mentioned that this is a very maneuverable craft... how so? I don't see any special control geometry for low speed, and it's going to be limited by the pilot's G tolerance like every other fighter at high speed.

 

Nobody? Okay, off to Wikipedia I go.

Edited May 19, 2016 by Pocket Sized

[schroedi]

When the F-5 fires it's cannons at sec 42/43 a cover in front of the cannon opens, what is the function of that cover?

[Pocket Sized]

When the F-5 fires it's cannons at sec 42/43 a cover in front of the cannon opens, what is the function of that cover?

 

Streamlining?

[mattebubben]

When the F-5 fires it's cannons at sec 42/43 a cover in front of the cannon opens, what is the function of that cover?

 

The small Doors/Flaps are opened to direct the Exhaust Fumes from the guns firing over the cockpit.

 

Since without the Doors to force the Fumes over the cockpit allot of it would be sucked into the engine which could cause engine Problems.

[FoxDelta]

cool

 

we had the F5E in operation for several years, until getting the EUFI, i will ask some pilotes to compare belsimteks to the real experience, sure belsimtek has done a great job.

 

LOXZ

[probad]

I know very little about the F-5... (Didn't even know what it looked like until a few weeks ago) What is it going to bring to the table? Being limited to WVR makes me think it won't stand a chance against modern fighters. (Feel free to correct me)

 

Somebody mentioned that this is a very maneuverable craft... how so? I don't see any special control geometry for low speed, and it's going to be limited by the pilot's G tolerance like every other fighter at high speed.

 

it's hecka small, small return and hard to spot. it's not jousting material but jousting is by far not the only way to conduct a2a. :)

 

aerodynamics isnt something you can simply eyeball. what the f-5 does obviously have though are lerx which help with high aoas. it's got tiny wings so it's going to outroll something like a tomcat or flanker.

 

expect a large number of sneaky 9 and gun kills from experienced pilots and a lot of sneaky wtf inducing friendly fire incidents from inexperienced pilots.

the f-5e will be an infamous force of nature on mp, it's going to be delicious.

[QuiGon]

I know very little about the F-5... (Didn't even know what it looked like until a few weeks ago) What is it going to bring to the table? Being limited to WVR makes me think it won't stand a chance against modern fighters. (Feel free to correct me)

 

Somebody mentioned that this is a very maneuverable craft... how so? I don't see any special control geometry for low speed, and it's going to be limited by the pilot's G tolerance like every other fighter at high speed.

 

It does indeed not stand a chance against modern fighters, at least not in BVR. It's a 3rd generation fighter aircraft and is comparable to the MiG-21. It has seen action in Vietnam and has been exported to many countries. It has been used in the US Air Force Agressor Squadrons till 1990 and still serves in the Navys Agressor squadrons, because of it's great maneuverability.

[mattebubben]

I know very little about the F-5... (Didn't even know what it looked like until a few weeks ago) What is it going to bring to the table? Being limited to WVR makes me think it won't stand a chance against modern fighters. (Feel free to correct me)

 

Somebody mentioned that this is a very maneuverable craft... how so? I don't see any special control geometry for low speed, and it's going to be limited by the pilot's G tolerance like every other fighter at high speed.

 

Nobody? Okay, off to Wikipedia I go.

 

First of all its an old aircraft.

 

With the First F-5 variant entering service in the early 60s (with it being designed in the mid-late 50s)

 

The F-5E that we are getting is a early 1970s variant that is more advanced then the earlier F-5A.

 

Its a Light Multirole aircraft and is competative with the Mig-21.

 

And its a very agile aircraft though a bit underpowered compared to other fighters.

 

Its only able to carry IR guided weapons (which was no real drawback when it entered service as the radar guided weapons of the time were not all that effective for fighter vs fighter combat especially not at ranges outside of where a IR guided missile could be used)

 

In a Open Skies scenario (high altitude with nothing to hide behind) it will have no chance against something like a F-15 or Su-27/Mig-29

 

But with terrain to help it get close it can be deadly as its very agile.

 

And also how can you say you have had never seen a F-5 =O have you not seen Topgun!!!

 

And if you have not seen topgun there is no saving you ^^.