Oculus Rift with DCS World Discussion

[dburne]

Question: With VR (Rift, specifically), does pressing Alt+Enter for fullscreen make a difference as it did with a 2D monitor? If so, what does it do for VR?

 

The big difference you might find, without being in true full screen ( alt+Enter), some menu items or buttons may be hard to click on, they tend to get out of focus.

[rrohde]

That's good to know. Thank you! :thumbup:

[BigDuke6ixx]

The big difference you might find, without being in true full screen ( alt+Enter), some menu items or buttons may be hard to click on, they tend to get out of focus.

 

You can avoid that by moving the windows taskbar to the right side, vertical position.

[NeilWillis]

Does anyone know if the Oculus sensors will work inverted? I am building a new office desk/bookcase/play area, and it would be good if I could mount the two Oculus sensors under one of the book shelves. The question is, will they work upside down?

[Salsam]

Does anyone know if the Oculus sensors will work inverted? I am building a new office desk/bookcase/play area, and it would be good if I could mount the two Oculus sensors under one of the book shelves. The question is, will they work upside down?

 

 

 

I have mine mounted upside down and haven't had any problems or the need to change anything in setup yet.

[Cibit]

Does anyone know if the Oculus sensors will work inverted? I am building a new office desk/bookcase/play area, and it would be good if I could mount the two Oculus sensors under one of the book shelves. The question is, will they work upside down?

 

You should start a thread as inspiration to others and point out pitfalls etc along the way :)

[hansangb]

Does anyone know if the Oculus sensors will work inverted? I am building a new office desk/bookcase/play area, and it would be good if I could mount the two Oculus sensors under one of the book shelves. The question is, will they work upside down?

 

 

Hmm, now you got me thinking. It'd be 30 min of work to make a little ledge to rest the sensors and get them off my desk. Although I'd want to hide the wires, that's a another 45 min. Now it's a project LOL.

[NeilWillis]

Mine is a work in progress, but I'll post some stuff when I am satisfied with it all. Thanks for the feedback guys.

[pimp]

HI All,

 

Can you please test this mission attached? Report your fps please specifically around Nellis. Also, are you able to see the parked aircraft around you? I'm attempting to understand how these settings work with VR. I'm trying to see objects near me clearer. Especially those objects that should be seen clear. I think I'm chasing a ghost though. Might be the current optimization status of 2.1.1 or the limitations of the current VR tech. Might be too many objects around Nellis.

 

 

Thanks!

A10C_Bombing_Practice.miz

[mx22]

Probably a better approach would be to record track and then ask people for FPS at certain time.

[sea2sky]

Got mine yesterday. Went to the bed with a motion sickness, almost fell from my chair twice - will get the belts. So, Rift is a party breaker. I can't go back to my TIR setup, but I'm not 100% happy with the clarity either. Broken state. My button boxes, two large monitors all became a waste. By the way, I'm pretty satisfied with the performance. Also, I could not see enough of a difference in sharpness between 1.6 and 2.5. Why is that? It gets slow for sure and gets a bit sharper, but small gauge letters are still blurry.

[dburne]

I personally find anything above around 1.8 PD is very much diminishing returns. I am running 1.3 in DCS 2.1 mainly due to the performance of it currently.

[sea2sky]

Also, what I've noticed is that some letters on around gauges and switches are hard to read not due to their size, but rather due to their size+contrast. For example, I had no problems in reading the tiny pitch trim indicator in F-5E, but can't see numbers on a bigger HSI because they are kinda grayish. So, cockpits could be improved in respect to VR by adding extra contrast to all letters.

[metzger]

Got mine yesterday. Went to the bed with a motion sickness, almost fell from my chair twice - will get the belts. So, Rift is a party breaker. I can't go back to my TIR setup, but I'm not 100% happy with the clarity either. Broken state. My button boxes, two large monitors all became a waste. By the way, I'm pretty satisfied with the performance. Also, I could not see enough of a difference in sharpness between 1.6 and 2.5. Why is that? It gets slow for sure and gets a bit sharper, but small gauge letters are still blurry.

I use a lot of button boxes with the rift, even the keyboard some times. It is actually great. Just use the nose gap to peak and in no time you will reach them by muscle memory.

I used to eat ginger for the motion sickness but after some time you build your VR legs and now I can use it all day with no sickness at all.

 

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[VampireNZ]

... My button boxes, two large monitors all became a waste. ...

 

I wouldn't bin the button boxes just yet! I have a DSD box mounted to one side of my wheel base at the front of my rig that is now compulsory equipment...with another one for the other side coming soon!

Put them within easy reach and it doesn't take long to know exactly where they are by muscle memory and feel. Making slight changes to the tactile feel of a few buttons makes locating the right botton/switch even faster.

 

In RL aircraft you soon learn to just reach out and locate the correct switch without looking, even on a packed overhead panel...you are expected to make a quick visual confirmation however before selections...but that's just because bad things could happen in RL aircraft. Sim a/c no problems just hit it lol...(yes I have accidentally hit the Open Canopy switch on the F-15 in flight haha - better put that one on one of the guarded switches I think. Does improve the view thou..)

[NeilWillis]

Motion sickness is an acclimatisation thing. Keep your sessions short to begin with, and you'll build up resistance over a few sessions. As soon as you start to feel hot, or queasy, just take a break. It is best to take it slowly to begin with, and then it'll start to affect you less and less.

 

The problem is the disconnect between visual movement, and lack of a co-ordinated feedback from your inner ear. The brain can be trained easily to accept the disconnect.

[nessuno0505]

Hi everyone.

I'm a new a-10c player, I play on standalone 1.5.7 stable and in VR with oculus rift.

I have a question: since I prefer using mouse instead of head movements for the cursor, I've enabled "use mouse" on VR settings. But now I can control the cursor BOTH with mouse and head. I'd like to move the cursor ONLY with the mouse, in order to move the cursor indipendently from my point of view. Is it possible?

Edited August 3, 2017 by nessuno0505

[sea2sky]

I wouldn't bin the button boxes just yet! I have a DSD box mounted to one side of my wheel base at the front of my rig that is now compulsory equipment...with another one for the other side coming soon!

 

Yeah, the second night of flying with VR, and the 'see through the nose gap' technique is adapted.

Edited August 3, 2017 by sea2sky

[John Hargreaves]

Motion sickness is an acclimatisation thing. Keep your sessions short to begin with, and you'll build up resistance over a few sessions. As soon as you start to feel hot, or queasy, just take a break. It is best to take it slowly to begin with, and then it'll start to affect you less and less.

 

The problem is the disconnect between visual movement, and lack of a co-ordinated feedback from your inner ear. The brain can be trained easily to accept the disconnect.

 

 

Personally I've had more motion sickness with flying and driving in real life than I have with the rift, which I'm pleased about, but if the real thing makes you barf then we ought not to be surprised if its simulated equivalent does too. As you say Neil, it's a question of acclimatisation.

[crowebar]

Had my first flight in Normandy map today after a lay-off since May. Having followed forum in that time I decided to approach 2.1 with a clean install. I also expected it to be quite bad in the pit. But I must say I was really impressed. Set same settings as I had with 1.5, shadows off, PD 1.3, AF x4, MSAA x2 terrain & water low.

 

Had a really smooth flight with a constant FPS of 45 from getting in the pit, taxi & takeoff, a whizz around the isle of white and beat up the other 3 south coast airfields, rtb and land.

 

The only technicals were the mirror not working, and the game paused twice in the 40 minutes or so I was in the pit.

 

Really impressed.

[dburne]

Wow your doing way better than me on Normandy.

[crowebar]

Yes, copy that. Having seen the posts from you guys I was going to leave it until Autumn when I will be looking at a new rig. But I couldn't stay away and the funds for the rig keep slipping back, might be Christmas at this rate.

 

After I posted I went back and set VR defaults, it was awful, 2 frames a second ish. Reset to previous settings but left trees, grass etc where they were. Back to 45 FPS. So put shadows to flat and got between 33 & 45 FPS which will do me for a long time as I need to learn takeoffs, circuits and landing. Then navigation, combat manoeuvres, gunnery etc. All part of converting from the Falcon F16 to a Spitfire. By the time I have mastered all of that I should have an I7-7700k PC and ED will have rolled out more fixes and updates.

[Cibit]

Had my first flight in Normandy map today after a lay-off since May. Having followed forum in that time I decided to approach 2.1 with a clean install. I also expected it to be quite bad in the pit. But I must say I was really impressed. Set same settings as I had with 1.5, shadows off, PD 1.3, AF x4, MSAA x2 terrain & water low.

 

Had a really smooth flight with a constant FPS of 45 from getting in the pit, taxi & takeoff, a whizz around the isle of white and beat up the other 3 south coast airfields, rtb and land.

 

The only technicals were the mirror not working, and the game paused twice in the 40 minutes or so I was in the pit.

 

Really impressed.

 

I think I might revert to a PD of 1.3 for the time being and see if I can get smooth gameplay. I recently reset everthing to start from scratch with the latest update and every time I think I have it just right I get a freeze or stutters.:doh:

[dburne]

I think I might revert to a PD of 1.3 for the time being and see if I can get smooth gameplay. I recently reset everthing to start from scratch with the latest update and every time I think I have it just right I get a freeze or stutters.:doh:

 

That is what I am running now ( 1.3 ) but it still really struggles in Normandy big time.

Going to try lowering my textures to medium next and see if that will help.

 

But no MSAA and lower pixel density it starts getting kind of rough.

I am keeping my fingers crossed for some optimizations to be forthcoming. After all Nevada is running fairly decent.

[FragBum]

Well I find PD of 1.1 to be fine for a bit of basic pixel averaging, I can live with some level of moire and for the most part it's just fine.

 

This allows me to have MSAA @ 2 and AF @ 4 and still mostly avoid the stutters in Normandy flying Gazelle VR. :thumbup: