VR Shaders mod for better VR experience

[Ready]

45 minutes ago, Sr. said:

Good news is, you can dial back on the super sampling and gain some more performance.

I am at 80%SS. Will see what lowering it further brings me. Will this remove the screendoor you think?

BTW I see you are running W11 with a Ryzen and G2? Did W11 give you any performance degradation? I am considering to upgrade, but so far only read bad news about W11 in VR on AMD's.

Tnx, 

Edited November 18, 2021 by Ready_ENP

[Sr.]

37 minutes ago, Ready_ENP said:

I am at 80%SS. Will see what lowering it further brings me. Will this remove the screendoor you think?

BTW I see you are running W11 with a Ryzen and G2? Did W11 give you any performance degradation? I am considering to upgrade, but so far only read bad news about W11 in VR on AMD's.

Tnx, 

 

Screen door in the  G2 is typically the result of too high (more than necessary) combo in Global and per game SteamVr Super Sampling and/or in game PD slider. OpenFSR can contribute.

On my setup, if I leave SVRSS global to auto and per game at 100%, the combo shows up as 129% in the fpsVR UI. So I leave SteamVr global at manual 100%, then adjust the per game to my visual liking... usually 80%.

No noticeable degradation, certainly not the 15% I'd read about. 

Edited November 18, 2021 by Sr.

[Ready]

22 minutes ago, Sr. said:

Screen door in the  G2 is typically the result of too high (more than necessary) combo in Global and per game SteamVr Super Sampling and/or in game PD slider. OpenFSR can contribute.

On my setup, if I leave SVRSS global to auto and per game at 100%, the combo shows up as 129% in the fpsVR UI. So I leave SteamVr global at manual 100%, then adjust the per game to my visual liking... usually 80%.

No noticeable degradation, certainly not the 15% I'd read about. 

 

Tnx. Yes, but the strange thing is that the screen door happens only inside the circle. I would assume it would be everywhere if it had something to do with SVRSS settings. Will mess around with it some more tomorrow.

[Sr.]

59 minutes ago, Ready said:

Tnx. Yes, but the strange thing is that the screen door happens only inside the circle. I would assume it would be everywhere if it had something to do with SVRSS settings. Will mess around with it some more tomorrow.

Interesting. Maybe try "applyMIPBias": false,  ?

[Ready]

On 11/19/2021 at 2:08 AM, Sr. said:

Interesting. Maybe try "applyMIPBias": false,  ?

Tnx I haven't seen it anymore since last repair.

[scampaboy]

Hi I’m trying to improve my performance a little or keep the same performance and get rid of shimmers. 
 

I’m running less than the VR default  settings with 2x MSAA on a 3060. Using a quest 2 headset via cable link. Would I be able to get rid of some shimmer ? I’m on latest OB 

[Taz1004]

On 11/21/2021 at 4:18 PM, scampaboy said:

Hi I’m trying to improve my performance a little or keep the same performance and get rid of shimmers. 
 

I’m running less than the VR default  settings with 2x MSAA on a 3060. Using a quest 2 headset via cable link. Would I be able to get rid of some shimmer ? I’m on latest OB 

You can also try ReShade SMAA on top of in-game MSAA.  One thing I realized recently is to use Depth sorting method on SMAA which works much better for DCS.  It's as good as 2x MSAA.  There will be performance hit but wont be as bad as 4x MSAA.

Attached is my new setting.  You can disable or lower CAS sharpen.  Sharpen=Shimmer, Less Shimmer=Blurry.  It's always finding balance.

VR sharpen SMAA.zip

Edited November 22, 2021 by Taz1004

[scampaboy]

4 hours ago, Taz1004 said:

You can also try ReShade SMAA on top of in-game MSAA.  One thing I realized recently is to use Depth sorting method on SMAA which works much better for DCS.  It's as good as 2x MSAA.  There will be performance hit but wont be as bad as 4x MSAA.

Attached is my new setting.  You can disable or lower CAS sharpen.  Sharpen=Shimmer, Less Shimmer=Blurry.  It's always finding balance.

VR sharpen SMAA.zip 3.84 MB · 8 downloads

 

Thanks for that, I installed the shader mod earlier this evening and it does seem to run smoother without checking an fps counter. 
Let me test it a little more as I’m trying to decide whether to destroy that new found smoothness with either MSAA in game, AF16 or shadows onto medium. 
If I don’t have any success I’ll give reshade a try and thanks for the settings. Do I understand correctly that reshade takes a little fps ? 

[Taz1004]

4 minutes ago, scampaboy said:

Thanks for that, I installed the shader mod earlier this evening and it does seem to run smoother without checking an fps counter. 
Let me test it a little more as I’m trying to decide whether to destroy that new found smoothness with either MSAA in game, AF16 or shadows onto medium. 
If I don’t have any success I’ll give reshade a try and thanks for the settings. Do I understand correctly that reshade takes a little fps ? 

ReShade is post process.  It does take fps but usually not as much as in-game filters and effects.  And you can quickly enable/disable with Delete key.

[lefuneste01]

You can also try my mod to have sharpen on cockpit only and not on landscape, plus other cool features for VR : https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/207154-3dmigoto-vr-mod-for-dcs-label-masking-color-enhancement-sharpen-fxaa-copypaste-of-radio-msg

 

[exil]

On 11/22/2021 at 11:12 PM, Taz1004 said:

You can also try ReShade SMAA on top of in-game MSAA.  One thing I realized recently is to use Depth sorting method on SMAA which works much better for DCS.  It's as good as 2x MSAA.  There will be performance hit but wont be as bad as 4x MSAA.

Attached is my new setting.  You can disable or lower CAS sharpen.  Sharpen=Shimmer, Less Shimmer=Blurry.  It's always finding balance.

VR sharpen SMAA.zip 3.84 MB · 17 downloads

 

So does it mean I can turn off msaa ingame? Or is it just an add on to it? 

Thanks! 

[speed-of-heat]

15 minutes ago, exil said:

So does it mean I can turn off msaa ingame? Or is it just an add on to it? 

Thanks! 

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You can also try ReShade SMAA on top of in-game MSAA.  

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[exil]

6 hours ago, speed-of-heat said:

the first line of the text that you quoted ...

Yeah, sometimes you don't see the forest for the trees. Sorry for that and thanks for clarification! 

[Taz1004]

So I've been trying the full version and seems like GBuffer.hlsl is the one that's causing the faded out cockpit.

Also Decoder.hlsl basically disables AO.  And this is separate from in-game SSAO option.  I have that off.

Without Decoder.hlsl from the mod

With Decoder.hlsl

While it may provide some FPS, I found that Decoder.hlsl in this mod causes everything to look really bad for me.  I was getting light leaking look everywhere.  Like the buttons at the top panel and even the ground to the left Sunlight was leaking through.  And with it introduced a lot of pixel crawling in the cockpit especially in VR.

So if you're gonna use the full version, either disable both Decoder.hlsl and GBuffer.hlsl or consider if the tradeoff is worth it.

SpeedOfHeat's versions and Simplex have both GBuffer.hlsl and Decoder.hlsl disabled I believe.

Edited November 24, 2021 by Taz1004

[tomeye]

@Taz1004every try you do (replacing decoder.hsl) requires recompiling shaders from scratch?

[Taz1004]

7 hours ago, tomeye said:

@Taz1004every try you do (replacing decoder.hsl) requires recompiling shaders from scratch?

Not just Decoder.hlsl but also GBuffer.hlsl, atmosphere.hlsl, shadows.hlsl, and all files in model folder requires recompiling from scratch only when you reinstall the full mod.  It takes very long for me.  Almost 20 minutes.

I do have a workaround however.  First time I install the full mod, I start the game in every plane and terrain to compile the shaders.  Then save the FXO and metashaders2 folder (I package them as mod) and replace them everytime I have to reinstall the mod.  Then the game doesn't recompile.

Edited November 25, 2021 by Taz1004

[Ready]

On 11/25/2021 at 10:01 PM, Taz1004 said:

I do have a workaround however.  First time I install the full mod, I start the game in every plane and terrain to compile the shaders.  Then save the FXO and metashaders2 folder (I package them as mod) and replace them everytime I have to reinstall the mod.  Then the game doesn't recompile.

 

Ahhh that is brilliant! Why did I not think of that? Will add it to my OVGME.

Just so I understand; With every OB update I unload all core mods, run the DCS update and then load the mods (the VR shaders mod, followed by the 'FXO/metashaders2 folder'-mod, followed by all other mods?

Thanks!!

[Taz1004]

2 minutes ago, Ready said:

Ahhh that is brilliant! Why did I not think of that? Will add it to my OVGME.

Just so I understand; With every OB update I unload all core mods, run the DCS update and then load the mods (the VR shaders mod, followed by the 'FXO/metashaders2 folder'-mod, followed by all other mods?

Thanks!!

Pretty much.  However, if the OB update breaks the VR shader mod and it needs to be modified just like last OB update, then you may have to rebuild FXO/metashaders2.

[cloudkake]

On 11/28/2021 at 7:52 PM, Taz1004 said:

Pretty much.  However, if the OB update breaks the VR shader mod and it needs to be modified just like last OB update, then you may have to rebuild FXO/metashaders2.

Speaking of which, can anyone confirm this as of the one just released? Wouldn't mind knowing before i update

[Ready]

14 minutes ago, cloudkake said:

Speaking of which, can anyone confirm this as of the one just released? Wouldn't mind knowing before i update

I just updated and switched back to Kegetys Simplex shaders. Loading was pretty quick. Did not clear my FX/metashader folders.

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

No problem whatsoever

 

[Taz1004]

This is what I can salvage from the orignal full version of this mod merged with latest OB 2.7.9.17830 (12/23/2021)

I also reduced haze by 50%

DCS VR Shaders mod for 2.7.9.17830.zip

 

This will take very long time to load the first time.  Around 15 minutes for me.  You can use the workaround I posted above if you need to reinstall the mod or have to repair/reinstall DCS.

On 11/25/2021 at 4:01 PM, Taz1004 said:

I do have a workaround however.  First time I install the full mod, I start the game in every plane and terrain to compile the shaders.  Then save the FXO and metashaders2 folder (I package them as mod) and replace them everytime I have to reinstall the mod.  Then the game doesn't recompile.

Edited December 24, 2021 by Taz1004

[cloudkake]

awesome, thanks Taz!

[rubbra]

Has anyone else found that this mod is mostly not needed in the latest update? I've got significant fps gains, particularly in the Hornet and 'Hog. Viper is still worse, but still a good 10-12 fps higher than previously. I can only put it down to the "Fixed a bug leading to a drop of performance when rendering a water surface" line in the changelog - I fly a lot of persian gulf...

[lefuneste01]

I did some measurement to know if it's worth to keep compatibility of my mod with it. I still win 5 fps on ~48 in A10C / quick mission / takeoff, MSAA2x.

Knowing that it should allow you (like my mod) to get rid on infamous VR canopy reflects on every planes and have a good NVG size in VR.