macrossMX Posted June 12, 2019 Posted June 12, 2019 Will there be plans to make the tailhook functional? I know it is a silly question, but the USAF does have a tailhook that is functional for all their planes (including the never to be DCS-flyable F-22) for the purpose of emergency landings in case of hydraulic failures. Also Belsim has no problem adding this insignificant piece as functional on the F-5 for the sake of being authentic, so I am curious if ED is planning to make the hook functional.
=Panther= Posted June 12, 2019 Posted June 12, 2019 If only ED modeled the BAK-12 or similar systems. Twitch Channel [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Z390 Aorus Xtreme, i9 9900k, G.SKILL TridentZ Series 32GB, 1080ti 11GB, Obutto R3Volution, Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog, TPR, Cougar MFDs, FSSB R3L, JetSeat, Oculus Rift S, Buddy-Fox A-10C UFC, F/A-18C UFC, Tek Creations F-16 ICP
macrossMX Posted June 12, 2019 Author Posted June 12, 2019 Maybe they can update that for the NTTR or Persian Gulf in the future.
Cupra Posted June 12, 2019 Posted June 12, 2019 Or they add the emergency fences.. also an option. DCS F-16C Blk. 40/42 :helpsmilie: Candidate - 480th VFS - Cupra | 06
Northstar98 Posted June 12, 2019 Posted June 12, 2019 The F-15C and F-5E-3 have them, both used for making field landings using arrestor cables (NOT for carrier landings/recoveries) so I don't see why not, especially if we get field arresting cables in the future (it has been posted on the wishlist a few times, nothing yet though). Modules I own: F-14A/B, F-4E, Mi-24P, AJS 37, AV-8B N/A, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070S FE, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro.
agathorn Posted June 12, 2019 Posted June 12, 2019 Without the arrestors what is he point of having the tailhooks modeled? Intel i7-4770k @ 4.4ghz, 32gb ram, GTX 1080ti, Oculus Rift S Advanced apologies if my post contains typos or missing letters. Many of my posts are typed on a laptop with an old keyboard that has a personality all its own.
razo+r Posted June 12, 2019 Posted June 12, 2019 Without the arrestors what is he point of having the tailhooks modeled? It's a part of a plane. That's the reason.
Shahdoh Posted June 12, 2019 Posted June 12, 2019 Maybe when they get the new damage model in for ALL aircraft, they can model what would happen to the F15's/F16's etc, if they were to use those tailhooks in a carrier landing.
Northstar98 Posted June 12, 2019 Posted June 12, 2019 Maybe when they get the new damage model in for ALL aircraft, they can model what would happen to the F15's/F16's etc, if they were to use those tailhooks in a carrier landing. IIRC landing on aircraft carriers in the F-5E or F-15 caused quite an amount of damage, haven't tested in a while though Modules I own: F-14A/B, F-4E, Mi-24P, AJS 37, AV-8B N/A, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070S FE, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro.
Shahdoh Posted June 12, 2019 Posted June 12, 2019 IIRC landing on aircraft carriers in the F-5E or F-15 caused quite an amount of damage, haven't tested in a while though Talking about damage closer to reality compared to what we have now.
Cupra Posted June 12, 2019 Posted June 12, 2019 etc, if they were to use those tailhooks in a carrier landing. The idea of the hooks within the air force is not stopping an aircraft at full touchdown speed like it is at carrier ops… it is used for stop it at the end of the runway if nothing else works and no other arresting device is available, normally far below 170kts an F-16 has at touchdown… DCS F-16C Blk. 40/42 :helpsmilie: Candidate - 480th VFS - Cupra | 06
Shahdoh Posted June 12, 2019 Posted June 12, 2019 I understand that fully. My comment was for those wondering and want to test it out, that they could then see WHY you should not land AF birds on carriers just because they have a hook. It is why I used "THEY" in my original statement. ;)
Agg Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 Yes to tailhooks! I hope they model the runway arresting system as well, but just having the hook helps a bit with immersion.
FalcoGer Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 landing an f16 on a carrier would probably not rip the aircraft in half, but more likely collapse the gear and smash the fuselage into the deck.
KalAbaddon Posted July 27, 2019 Posted July 27, 2019 Someone on the forum here iirc did the math and showed that the tail hook would stop the plane just fine for an abrupt stop. That doesn't mean the airframe will survive it or the gear will not collapse cause the f-16 has some thin gear struts, maybe if you greased the landing it might not collapse, but that sucker would be in a depot level maintenance for shure!
Bagpipe Posted October 2, 2019 Posted October 2, 2019 so has there been any mention from ED as to whether they will implement the arrestor system at certain runways. I assume Nevada would be the place to start with that?
=Panther= Posted October 2, 2019 Posted October 2, 2019 so has there been any mention from ED as to whether they will implement the arrestor system at certain runways. I assume Nevada would be the place to start with that? It would be nice, but I believe ED has said no more features to NTTR. :( Twitch Channel [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Z390 Aorus Xtreme, i9 9900k, G.SKILL TridentZ Series 32GB, 1080ti 11GB, Obutto R3Volution, Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog, TPR, Cougar MFDs, FSSB R3L, JetSeat, Oculus Rift S, Buddy-Fox A-10C UFC, F/A-18C UFC, Tek Creations F-16 ICP
Bagpipe Posted October 2, 2019 Posted October 2, 2019 But surely for the viper they would make an exception..... :worthy::worthy::P
Bagpipe Posted October 2, 2019 Posted October 2, 2019 Or maybe it will feature in Syria map? How funny would it be if they released that at same time as the viper just to watch all the nay sayers squirm apologetically
ctguy1955 Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 Just to throw My hat into the ring, I wish the hook worked for carrier landings as well.
SUBS17 Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 The hook would be simple for them to model yet complete the 3d model of the F-16 and make the pit more authentic.:thumbup: [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC]
Cupra Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 Just to throw My hat into the ring, I wish the hook worked for carrier landings as well. The hook might not be the problem. But when adding carrier functions to the F-16 I would also like to have full V/STOL-Options too. :thumbup: DCS F-16C Blk. 40/42 :helpsmilie: Candidate - 480th VFS - Cupra | 06
Eldur Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 I thought it would work already, just never tried myself. I expect ED to simulate this eventually...
statrekmike Posted November 26, 2019 Posted November 26, 2019 Out of all the things the F-16 needs in order to be a complete, mission ready module, I can't say that the tailhook (that DCS's current land based runways don't support) should be very high on the list. When they do implement it, I would hope that any attempt to land a F-16 on a carrier with said hook would result in a airplane with a wrecked undercarriage and potential airframe damage.
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