Loribo Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 Hi all, just joined the community (first post). I have a quesrtion on the FA-18C updates:I cannot find the Litening Pod in the FA-18C load manager neither the new released Harpoon missile (they are not in the load list). Is there anything I need to do in order to get these updates on my Hornet?(I thought updates were automatically loaded everytime DCS is launched...) Running DCS 2.5.5 This could be a very silly question: pardon me I am new to DCS and the FA-18 :) Thanks
razo+r Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 You need to have the Open Beta install to get them. Otherwise you have to wait (usually) a week before you have them on the stable (your current version) Version.
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted August 15, 2019 ED Team Posted August 15, 2019 Hi Loribo Welcome to the forum. The pod is only in the open beta version at the moment. you can install it if you wish, it is the public test version of DCS Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Loribo Posted August 15, 2019 Author Posted August 15, 2019 Thanks for the reply guys Hi Loribo Welcome to the forum. The pod is only in the open beta version at the moment. you can install it if you wish, it is the public test version of DCS I see. You mean I can install the beta version on the same PC and load the same modules with no issues?
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted August 15, 2019 ED Team Posted August 15, 2019 Thanks for the reply guys I see. You mean I can install the beta version on the same PC and load the same modules with no issues? yes you can run both versions, they are independent of each other. all your modules will work with it Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Wizard1393 Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) You mean I can install the beta version on the same PC and load the same modules with no issues? That, or better still, you can simply switch between them quite simply... hold my cosmo while I find the info how...it's around here on the forums. EDIT: In the command prompt, go to your DCS install dir and go into the bin directory and then type: DCS_updater.exe update @openbeta To change back to stable release type: DCS_updater.exe update @release Edited August 15, 2019 by chrisofsweden GPU: PALIT NVIDIA RTX 3080 10GB | CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K @ 4,9GHz | RAM: 64GB DDR4 3000MHz VR: HP Reverb G2 | HOTAS: TM Warthog Throttle and Stick OS: Windows 10 22H2
Silver_Dragon Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 TGP, Harpoon and other updates has only available yet on Open Beta version. You need wait to release them to 2.5.5 release or change to open beta. For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
Padonis Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) However, Hornet was abandoned for the F-16 ... We were assured that this is not the case :( . Similar threads have been closed to silence dissatisfaction. Only should it be this way? I am very sad. Edited September 21, 2019 by padonis
ED Team NineLine Posted September 21, 2019 ED Team Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) However, Hornet was abandoned for the F-16 ... We were assured that this is not the case :( . Similar threads have been closed to silence dissatisfaction. Only should it be this way? I am very sad. The Hornet has not been abandoned, no where does it say that, please do not make stuff up, that is what gets threads closed. The Hornet has not stopped development, still work on going, updates to Harpoon systems are being tested internally, as well as development on systems for the Walleye, which will lead to the SLAM-ER and SLAM. A couple team members moved over to help with the last push out the door for the Viper, lets not play make believe and yell the sky is falling. Edited September 21, 2019 by NineLine Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
hanab Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) The Hornet has not been abandoned, no where does it say that, please do not make stuff up, that is what gets threads closed. The Hornet has not stopped development, still work on going, updates to Harpoon systems are being tested internally, as well as development on systems for the Walleye, which will lead to the SLAM-ER and SLAM. A couple team members moved over to help with the last push out the door for the Viper, lets not play make believe and yell the sky is falling. it's good to say it but we had guessed that the devellopement of the hornet slowed down due to viper. Even if only temporary. Thank you for this transparency as late as it is Edited September 21, 2019 by hanab
Mule Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 However, Hornet was abandoned for the F-16 ... We were assured that this is not the case :( . Similar threads have been closed to silence dissatisfaction. Only should it be this way? I am very sad. Shtaaaap with the drama. It hasn't been abandon and remember the mantra here in open beta "subject to change" We all know this. Just try to be a bit more flexible and support our niche hobby. No other developer is doing this on this scale. Fighter Pilot Podcast.
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted September 21, 2019 ED Team Posted September 21, 2019 it's good to say it but we had guessed that the devellopement of the hornet slowed down due to viper. Even if only temporary. Thank you for this transparency as late as it is It isn't late, the team members have just been moved and ED have been open and honest about moving them. Work on the hornet continues with remaining team members. Thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
javelina1 Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 Shtaaaap with the drama. It hasn't been abandon and remember the mantra here in open beta "subject to change" We all know this. Just try to be a bit more flexible and support our niche hobby. No other developer is doing this on this scale. Indeed! if anything, I would think there are elements via the Bug, that might be assisting the Viper. (But I've never coded a simulator).;) MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control
hanab Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 It isn't late, the team members have just been moved and ED have been open and honest about moving them. Work on the hornet continues with remaining team members. Thanks Copy that !! Thanks
ED Team NineLine Posted September 21, 2019 ED Team Posted September 21, 2019 Indeed! if anything, I would think there are elements via the Bug, that might be assisting the Viper. (But I've never coded a simulator).;) Very much so, they Hornet is making things like the Viper and the next big things easier to do, its all mutually beneficial, just in this case, we moved some manpower to meet the early autumn deadline we set for ourselves. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
javelina1 Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 Very much so, they Hornet is making things like the Viper and the next big things easier to do, its all mutually beneficial, just in this case, we moved some manpower to meet the early autumn deadline we set for ourselves. Cool beans buddy, thanks! :thumbup: MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control
falcon_120 Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 I cant say i like the approach followed by ED. I dont like how they have prioritzed the viper launch while it is so recent (it was announced this year!). What is exactly all this rush to have the viper out in Early october? So hard that you have to take the team working on the tgp and TWS to go help out with the F16? For me the more sensitive path would have been to develop the EA hornet something more closer to at least 70% (we are not even at 50% system wise) before commiting so much to a different module. There are so many things yet to implement with the hornet that im getting the impresion it will be more than 2 years from now to get it out of EA given how ED is always inmersed on new things. Mmmm, lets see how will this turn out... Enviado desde mi SM-G950F mediante Tapatalk
Gierasimov Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 Thanks! Very much so, they Hornet is making things like the Viper and the next big things easier to do, its all mutually beneficial, just in this case, we moved some manpower to meet the early autumn deadline we set for ourselves. That's really appreciated that you are open and honest about all of that. Thank you, ED. That being said, I like the idea of getting Viper out as planned as this will keep both modules in motion and will improve both as well. I have recorded 175 hours in Hornet so far, and I am still learning and polishing skills. The steady progress of Hornet development brings new features, systems and weapons at a pace that is easy to work with time-wise. Thanks again. Intel Ultra 9 285K :: ROG STRIX Z890-A GAMING WIFI :: Kingston Fury 64GB :: MSI RTX 4080 Gaming X Trio :: VKB Gunfighter MK.III MCG Ultimate :: VPC MongoosT-50 CM3 :: non-VR :: single player :: open beta
Davee Posted September 22, 2019 Posted September 22, 2019 However, Hornet was abandoned for the F-16 ... We were assured that this is not the case :( . Similar threads have been closed to silence dissatisfaction. Only should it be this way? I am very sad. You must have a great problem with reading comprehension! Try to read the information again very, very slowly.
ED Team NineLine Posted September 22, 2019 ED Team Posted September 22, 2019 I cant say i like the approach followed by ED. I dont like how they have prioritzed the viper launch while it is so recent (it was announced this year!). What is exactly all this rush to have the viper out in Early october? So hard that you have to take the team working on the tgp and TWS to go help out with the F16? For me the more sensitive path would have been to develop the EA hornet something more closer to at least 70% (we are not even at 50% system wise) before commiting so much to a different module. There are so many things yet to implement with the hornet that im getting the impresion it will be more than 2 years from now to get it out of EA given how ED is always inmersed on new things. Mmmm, lets see how will this turn out... Enviado desde mi SM-G950F mediante Tapatalk So we fail if we don't make new modules fast enough, then we try to do better and now we are making them too fast? Not sure I know what to think. New modules are not only important for keeping the lights on, but they bring in new users, the push new advancements in developing even newer modules. It wont be long and we will see the release of another WWII module. People want new stuff, and we want to balance that with development of current modules and the core. We wanted to be honest, and say that for a short time we were assigning a couple from the Hornet team to help out on the Viper. Again its not the end of the world... things are still proceeding as planned. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Ziptie Posted September 22, 2019 Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) Ugh..... Rough having to reallocate resources from an unfinished project/product, over to a soon to be released project/product - but if the work being reallocated to the Viper can be directly transferred back to the Hornet - then that is somewhat acceptable. That would be a direct issue that a smaller company has, compared to a larger company. I can appreciate the transparency in the announcement of those shifts in labor at least. Signed, a paying and pre-purchase customer of both aforementioned aircraft. Cheers, Don Edited September 22, 2019 by Ziptie i7 6700 @4ghz, 32GB HyperX Fury ddr4-2133 ram, GTX980, Oculus Rift CV1, 2x1TB SSD drives (one solely for DCS OpenBeta standalone) Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs Airframes: A10C, A10CII, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-16C, UH=1H, FC3. Modules: Combined Arms, Supercarrier. Terrains: Persian Gulf, Nevada NTTR, Syria
kaoqumba Posted September 22, 2019 Posted September 22, 2019 Don't worry about it! Everything is going on, and the development of F/A18 is not stagnating. There is no substitute for another to become the focus of development, nor is there "stimulated by a module, forced to accelerate progress". Other development teams have their own plans, and ED development teams also have their own plans. They don't interfere with each other. Mobilizing some members of F/A18C to F16C is just a normal staff transfer. I don't understand why it is annoying and disturbing to mobilize more people to join the development of F16 so that it can be released as scheduled as possible. We should all have enough mental preparation when we first buy. "EA stage, the time may be very long." I have to admit frankly that the development time of Rhubarb Peak is beyond the endurance limit of many people, including me. I do regret buying EA products. And in the future, keep your head clear and stop buying EA products. But one thing we have to understand! The purchase of F/A18C has become a fact. It's our choice. No one has fooled us into buying it. So there is no reason to complain. Now, we need and must trust them. All modules will be completed in the future.
dchriest Posted September 22, 2019 Posted September 22, 2019 However, Hornet was abandoned for the F-16 ... We were assured that this is not the case :( . Similar threads have been closed to silence dissatisfaction. Only should it be this way? I am very sad. Seems to me that we've been getting regular and substantial updates giving us new and interesting systems for DCS: F/A-18 Hornet since its release. My Hangar: | A-10A | A-10C | AJS-37 | AV-8B II NA | F-14B | BF-109 K4 | C-101 | F-15C | F-5E II |F-86F | F/A-18C | FW-190 D-9 | KA-50 | L-39 | M-2000C | MI-8MTV2 | MiG-15bis | MiG-21bis | P-51D | SA342 | Spitfire IX | SU-25 | SU-25T | SU-27 | SU-33 | UH-1H | My Playgrounds: | Caucasus | Nevada | Persian Gulf | Normandy | Cockpit: | i7-4790K | EVGA Z97 | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB | Samsung EVO SSD | Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino H.O.T.A.S. System | TrackIR 5 |
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