WingC3 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 See attached photo: Contact was reported as both friendly and hostile on datalink. Contact WAS friendly and returned a positive Mode 4 reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1. Are you absolutely sure it's one contact and not a friendly and a hostile in a dogfight? 2. It's possible for F-18 pilots to manually designate a contact, so it could be that another player designated a friendly contact as hostile. If that's the case, there should be a conflict, but I don't know if the F-16 displays ambiguous symbols or which donor takes priority, so there might be a bug in there somewhere. The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingC3 Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share Posted December 11, 2019 100% Sure Definitely not 2 contacts, visual confirmed only 1 aircraft. In terms of someone designating it: possible, but not something commonly done. I'm looking for the track, but it's not obvious which one it is from the many I have... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted December 11, 2019 ED Team Share Posted December 11, 2019 If you can make a short one if you know how to reproduce it, that would be good. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingC3 Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) Reproduced! I have a trackfile in which it occurs, but it's 215MB (long play session). Sadly it also happens towards the end. It's too big to attach here. What can we do? It's too intermittent to reliably reproduce. Seems to be a datalink issue. Here you can see multiple contacts seen by both the radar and datalink. They show as hostile, but the M4 interrogation overlay shows that they are actually friendly. Edited December 19, 2019 by WingC3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanFlint Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Can confirm happened on my end as well on 104th Server. Friendly contacts being shown as hostile on HSD with activated DL and MIDS & IFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayst0r Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 yep have seen it too once in 3 hr multiplayer session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFF - Raph Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) +1 Here there is a conflict between DL and IFF As you can see on the picture is was surprised, rejoining the tanker and he was identify as hostile. When I IFF interrogate, there is the green circle over the red plot. Notice that half of the time you can see your own aircraft on center DL identify as hostile. (XMT was turned OFF to see if it could change something, but nothing happened) Edited December 19, 2019 by FrM | Raph Modules: Nevada, Persian Gulf, Syria, Normandie, FC3, CA, Super Carrier, A-10C, A-10C II, F/A-18C, F-16 C, F-14 B, SA342, and WWII stuff. Hardware: I7 8700K, Geforce GTX 1080Ti 11Go OC, 32Gb RAM, screen resolution 2K Devices: Hotas Warthog, Cougar MFDs, Saitek rudder pedals, Track IR My squadron: http://jtff.fr/SITE/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryu8200 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Can confirm. On TTI SoCal right now and my friend also flying an F16 is showing up at Red on my radar and HSD. Tankers on the server also showing up as red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camel1 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 100% reproducible on any multiplayer server for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayst0r Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Jup, it started slowly only 2 false enemys per 6hours, and now after 2 patches it occurs as soon as you join. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHOGX5 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I flew with a friend yesterday, and when he locked the tanker with his radar, it turned hostile on D/L for me. As soon as he broke lock, the tanker HAFU turned friendly again. Seems like it's some issue with the D/L donor stuff. I tried a Mode 4 interrogation while we had the tanker locked and I got the green Mode 4 response, but the HAFU still showed hostile. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Col. Russ Everts opinion on surface-to-air missiles: "It makes you feel a little better if it's coming for one of your buddies. However, if it's coming for you, it doesn't make you feel too good, but it does rearrange your priorities." DCS Wishlist: MC-130E Combat Talon | F/A-18F Lot 26 | HH-60G Pave Hawk | E-2 Hawkeye/C-2 Greyhound | EA-6A/B Prowler | J-35F2/J Draken | RA-5C Vigilante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanFlint Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 XMT is the issue it seems. If nobody turns it on the contacts appear correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA_Recon Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 +1 Here there is a conflict between DL and IFF As you can see on the picture is was surprised, rejoining the tanker and he was identify as hostile. When I IFF interrogate, there is the green circle over the red plot. Notice that half of the time you can see your own aircraft on center DL identify as hostile. (XMT was turned OFF to see if it could change something, but nothing happened) [ATTACH]223328[/ATTACH] I can confirm this - friendly track IFF'd as friendly, shows as enemy in Datalink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strikeeagle345 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Same issue here. All friendly's are cycling between RED and GREEN on any server I go on. Friendly RED when IFF'ed showed Friendly. Strike USLANTCOM.com i7-9700K OC 5GHz| MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON | 32GB DDR4 3200 | GTX 3090 | Samsung SSD | HP Reverb G2 | VIRPIL Alpha | VIRPIL Blackhawk | HOTAS Warthog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrNewLife Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Can confirm here too my IFF and DL shown friendly as red(Scan clearly shown they are friend even they are red) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFF - Raph Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 XMT is the issue it seems. If nobody turns it on the contacts appear correct. As I said XMT does nothing. This is a conflict, and you see your own ship on datalink's center classified as hostile. Modules: Nevada, Persian Gulf, Syria, Normandie, FC3, CA, Super Carrier, A-10C, A-10C II, F/A-18C, F-16 C, F-14 B, SA342, and WWII stuff. Hardware: I7 8700K, Geforce GTX 1080Ti 11Go OC, 32Gb RAM, screen resolution 2K Devices: Hotas Warthog, Cougar MFDs, Saitek rudder pedals, Track IR My squadron: http://jtff.fr/SITE/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAW_Blaze Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 I only heard this from others but they believe it's an issue between TWS and L16 XMT being on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HayMak3r Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 Can confirm this happening as well. Thought I saw this thread the other day and was like hmm I don't seem to have the issue. But last night, I too was seeing a lot of red and when interigated they all would show friendly. They would then go back to hostile. Including our own tankers. Intel i7 8700K @ 4.8Ghz, Asus RoG Maximus X Formula, 32GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200, EVGA Geforce 2080 Super, 1TB Samsung Evo 970 M.2, 500GB Samsung Pro 860 SSD. TM Warthog, Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals, Acer 23" x2, Oculus Rift S, FSSB3 Lighting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFF - Raph Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 Okay there is a track on the 104th server, file size is about 100Mo. On this track the bug is present since the begining of the flight. I finally killed my own wingmen, he was chased by an hostile and poped up with a red plot, I interrogate with a scan and a los and nothing happened. Sometimes it responds and gives a green circle on red plots. Thrust me this is worst than a plane without a IFF you see red symbols everywhere and everything is at 50% false. This issue is also bound with your own aircraft, you can see your own plane with a red symbol on datalink center sometimes (and you think you've got somebody in your 6). https://we.tl/t-ipZGq7A9we Please report this major issue in MP. Modules: Nevada, Persian Gulf, Syria, Normandie, FC3, CA, Super Carrier, A-10C, A-10C II, F/A-18C, F-16 C, F-14 B, SA342, and WWII stuff. Hardware: I7 8700K, Geforce GTX 1080Ti 11Go OC, 32Gb RAM, screen resolution 2K Devices: Hotas Warthog, Cougar MFDs, Saitek rudder pedals, Track IR My squadron: http://jtff.fr/SITE/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted December 26, 2019 ED Team Share Posted December 26, 2019 Reported, thanks. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 [iNVESTIGATING]datalink not working reliably on well populated PvP server our GCI could see lots of bandits (detected by our E-3, I was told we have an E-3 online) while not popping up on our Viper DL. (only very rarely we see superclose bandits pop up shortly) occured on nearly full BlueFlag PG server (~50 players). Track here https://ufile.io/0op3gkgc DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krippz Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 The E-3 can only see 210 miles away. The GCI was probably getting tracks from the EWR not the E3 Daniel. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrKitz Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Have another problem with DL on populated servers (GAW). Once in in several minutes all contacts are bing displayed and bandits and slowly being tagged as friendlies (including tankers and my own plane). After some time cycle repeats. Didn't notice this problem before JF-17 release. Can provide tracks (they are big with 3rd person sometimes) if needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted January 13, 2020 ED Team Share Posted January 13, 2020 I know it is asking a lot as it is very difficult to reproduce something in MP, the track replay was nearly 100mb and would not play correctly for me. If any one has a short track I would appreciate it thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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