FAQ and Updates

[ThorBrasil]

We have to be patient. We already know that there is an update! So we just have to wait! We will fly on the other maps and Afghanistan should be released at the end of the month. Patience is a virtue! Happy flying!

[diego999]

2 hours ago, ThorBrasil said:

We have to be patient. 

 

We have been. For more than a year.

[mwd2]

My interpretation for: [..]We continue to work on the 4th final phase of the Sinai project (release), which will include[..]

we need to wait for the first updated after EA-Release at least another 6 months!

Proof me wrong...

[Miro]

I seen similar post couple months ago, "it's soon"... How soon, half year? Another year?

[BIGNEWY]

1 hour ago, Miro said:

I seen similar post couple months ago, "it's soon"... How soon, half year? Another year?

It may not be this next update probably the one after, we are testing internally. 

I get the angst but it takes time, you need to be patient. 

thank you 

[deep]

Looks really fantastic! Smaller incremental updates would be even better.

[Duck21]

On 6/15/2024 at 6:37 PM, ThorBrasil said:

First of all, thank you very much for the great update!
The fact that Jordan and the UAE are getting an airport is really cool. I think the UAE is too far away to get an airport, but I believe that it will be Saudi Arabia that will get one, not the UAE. Maybe it's a typo or I'm misinterpreting. Thank you very much! I'm looking forward to the update!

Agreed, can't possibly be UAE. But knowing there will be a Jordan airfield is fantastic, hope the other one is indeed Saudi as you suspect! 

[QuiGon]

On 6/15/2024 at 4:26 PM, OnReTech said:

Dear friends and pilots. 

Thank you for your patience and support !!!

Phase 3 is going through all stages of testing and we hope that it will be released soon and available for updating.
Phase 3 will include:

• Fixing bugs from users and beta testers (more than 100)
• Airfields: 15 pcs and unique scenes for there:
  • Quwaysina
  • Birma/Tanta Air Base
  • Al Rahmaniyah
  • Borg-el-Arab/Intl
  • Jiyanklis New
  • Gebel el Basur
  • Al Khatatbah
  • Kom Awshim
  • Beni Suef
  • Wadi Abu Rish
  • El Minya
  • Hurghada
  • Wadi Abu Shihat
  • Ramon International airport
  • Sharm El Sheikh
• Unique objects and architectural monuments, industrial facilities - more than 100 pieces (link below)
• Added more typical scene objects like yacht, ndb tower etc..
• Vector data - zones of new airfields, places under unique objects.
• City textures and assets - improvement, garbage cleaning
• 2 types of acacia bushes for the south of Israel
• New more realistic seabed texture
• Parking for f35 and hangar for Israel airfields
• Improved scenes for helipads
• Night illumination of unique objects
• Upgrading the Pyramids of Giza and the tombs around the pyramids
• Trees on mountains in Israel
• Added of military installations of Egypt (northern and southern camp) and military bases on Israel
• Improving ground textures (adding more color variety)
• Added Oil Platforms

We continue to work on the 4th final phase of the Sinai project (release), which will include:

• Airfields for Jordan and UAE, 1 for each country
• Working with rocks for unique places, Ramon, Petra, etc.. (Development of a utility in TDK is required)
• Bugs and improvements that constantly come from users

That's awesome news!
It doesn't answer the most important question though: Will the bullseye finally get fixed?

Edited June 17, 2024 by QuiGon

[N0XID]

Wow! Very very nice preview Screenshots. 

[Stratos]

Can be that the airfield in UAE mentioned was in reality a airfield in Saudi Arabia?

[Iron Sights]

Looks like there will be some nice features added. Looking forward to it, thanks.

[Silver_Dragon]

6 hours ago, Stratos said:

Can be that the airfield in UAE mentioned was in reality a airfield in Saudi Arabia?

Surely.

[T.Power]

The updates look amazing and well worth the wait, very pleased to see the Dome of the Rock amongst the landmark buildings and the updates to the Giza plateau, and Petra at some point too.  Was interesting to read that new TDKs have to be developed for some of the new rock formations, I guess that's why Petra has to wait.  This area of the world has an incredibly rich history and was not represented (understandably) in it's full glory in early access.

[Cobrajet]

If there was people walking around in these pictures, these would be as close to photos as you can get. OnRetech will raise the bar when this gets released. Fantastic work.

[draconus]

On 6/15/2024 at 4:26 PM, OnReTech said:

I'm curious how will the balloons work?

Will they be present at night? If so - are they gonna be properly illuminated?

WIll they have collision and damage models? How will they interact with aircraft and AI?

Are they placable objects? Do they move at all?

[Burning Bridges]

On 6/16/2024 at 10:46 AM, Miro said:

I seen similar post couple months ago, "it's soon"... How soon, half year? Another year?

I understand as much that we get at least 1 big update and we should get it by summer / fall.

 

[Silver_Dragon]

2 hours ago, draconus said:

I'm curious how will the balloons work?

Will they be present at night? If so - are they gonna be properly illuminated?

WIll they have collision and damage models? How will they interact with aircraft and AI?

Are they placable objects? Do they move at all?

I think that has "attrezo".... no EDM objects.

[RaisedByWolves]

On 6/15/2024 at 4:52 PM, bal2o said:

thanks for the information, but again, "soon" = ?

Probably not “two weeks.”

[Tango3B]

All of this "yeah, it will soon be ready" means absolutely nothing without a timeline. I have no words for all of this...I am just dissapointed to the max. The DCS F-15E was refundable...I wish, this map was, too. ORT had an extremely good start but then???! ORT has been nothing but a massive dissapointment. Tell us something! Tell us a timeline when you (ORT) think, you will be able to present an update to DCS Sinai. Tell us, what will be in this update. At this point I have lost any trust in your ability to deliver anything but shiny pics. Tell us something we can rely on! No, at this point you guys at ORT owe us a concrete timeline. At this point, there is no room for any excuses, anymore. More than a year without anything, any update, is more than I am willing to take...this can´t go on for any longer!

[LimePartician]

On 9/27/2022 at 10:39 PM, OnReTech said:

FAQ

Note: This FAQ is very much subject to change, and nothing should be construed as a "promise". This the current intention as of 27 September 2022.

 

Who is developing this map?

OnReTech was formed in October 2021 to develop terrains.

With more than seven years of experience creating terrains for flight simulators, including DCS, we have assembled a team of dedicated artists, engineers, researchers, and managers to create new and interesting battlefields for DCS World.

 

Why Sinai?

The Sinai map is of great historical importance that includes several past conflicts. The map will include different types of surfaces, large and small rivers, forests, fields, and mountains. Large and small cities, many military airfields, road and rail networks, ports will also be included. Despite large portions of desert, the map will also include greenery and forests along the Nile Delta and in Israel.

 

What does the Sinai roadmap include?

The project is divided into three phases in total.

Early access: first + second phase.

Map update: bonus phase with expansion of the detailed territory with 3-4 additional airfields (it's a secret for now; we're still considering which ones).

Final release: third phase

 

First phase 

This will Include a 1500 x 1000 km area. Of this, a 700 by 700 km will be created in high detail and accuracy. Phase 1 will include many large and small cities like Cairo and include landmarks like the pyramids of Giza. Both natural and manmade features will be included. 

Airfields of the first phase:

Egypt:

• Al Ismailiyah Air Base

• Faid

• Kibrit Air Base

• Abu Sultan

• Abu Suwayr

• As Salihiyah

• Bir Jifjafa/Malez

• Wadi al Jandali

Israel:

• Nevatim Airbase

• Hatzerim Airbase

• Ramon Airbase

• Uvda/Ovda

 

Second phase. 

Additional unique objects and scenery for Israel and Egypt will be added.

Airfields of the second phase:

Egypt:

• Al Mansurah

• Az Zaqaziq

• Inshas Airbase

• Cairo International Airport

• Cairo West (Almaza)

• Bilbeis Air Base

Israel:

• Sde Dov Airport

• Palmachim Airbase

• Hatzor

• Tel Nof

• Ben Gurion

Third phase.

Airfields of the third phase:

Egypt:

• Quwaysina

• Birma/Tanta Air Base

• Al Rahmaniyah

• Borg-el-Arab/Intl

• Jiyanklis New

• Gebel el Basur

• Al Khatatbah

• Kom Awshim

• Beni Suef

• Wadi Abu Rish

• El Minya

• Hurghada

• Wadi Abu Shihat

 

When will this map be available?

We are planning an early access release in the first quarter of 2023. This is subject to change.

 

How much will this map cost?

Base price - $49.99 USD

Early access - $39.99 USD

 

What period is this map based on?

The map is being designed to represent the 2000s to the present.

 

Will we see Ramat David? It's currently a part of the terrain in the high res area.

[Gierasimov]

On 6/15/2024 at 11:55 PM, inexus said:

Another "soon..." update from the devs. I'll believe when I see it and not a second before. This map has been collecting dust for so long. Huge parts of the map is just emptiness while others appear to have random pieces of green fields that does not line up. Looking at the new screenshots of airfields it still shows this in places - it looks very unnatural. The map needs a huge amount of work.

The focus so far appear to have been on the areas around the pyramids. Hope to see more than the city closeups for what is being updated.

 

Lets add this one as well

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[mwd2]

Hi @OnReTech any news and ETA [or time frame] on the first update for the map?

[Tango3B]

11 hours ago, mwd2 said:

Hi @OnReTech any news and ETA [or time frame] on the first update for the map?

These guys just do not care...at this point it cannot be more obvious. Just do not expect anything from these guys...

[inexus]

I tried to ask for a refund a couple of weeks ago but it was declined because the map 'did have updates' and is used on some servers....

 

So yeah once you release a product no matter what state and do nothing to update it for over a year, ED and the 3rd party devs got their money. This is ridiculous. 

[cfrag]

41 minutes ago, Tango3B said:

These guys just do not care...at this point it cannot be more obvious. Just do not expect anything from these guys...

AFAIK, they (ORT) released their fixes to ED for integration testing a couple of weeks ago, so it is (currently) out of their, and in ED‘s hands to finalize and publish. I understand that you are frustrated (it has been way too long for an update), but currently we wait for ED, not ORT.