Normandy 2.0 FAQ

[Roy35150]

LOL...

[ThorBrasil]

@MAESTR0 Is it possible to add a map marker within the mission editor with the normandy 2 map boundary that was made in high resolution? This makes it easier to know the map area when creating the quest. I would always stay within the area that has a lot of detail in the scenery. Thanks!

 

Edited April 5, 2023 by ThorBrasil

[71st_AH Rob]

Please don't, it would be extremely annoying and distracting.

[RafaPolit]

12 minutes ago, 71st_AH Rob said:

Please don't, it would be extremely annoying and distracting.

Agreed.  Not sure what this would achieve, but I see no reason for having this permanently visible in F10.  A sketch would be enough for mission planners.  I see no reason why a pilot would need to know what areas are of high resolution during flight. 

[MAXsenna]

Agreed.  Not sure what this would achieve, but I see no reason for having this permanently visible in F10.  A sketch would be enough for mission planners.  I see no reason why a pilot would need to know what areas are of high resolution during flight. 

Mission Editor, not F10 map.
I'm pretty sure why this was suggested, but not sure if I agree.

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[Tinkickef]

It will never be easy to please everyone.  I applaud both ED and Ugra for pushing the boundaries of terrain making and hopefully making them more fps friendly.

Normandy 1 was pretty good at the time, could have been better, but now a bit meh.  Ugra now with more experience, bounced back with the astounding Syria map and ED countered with the equally astounding Channel and PG maps.  Naturally, Ugra is now looking at the the original Normandy with disatisfaction and has taken steps to rectify matters.

I see no negatives here.

However, when you have two separate income streams competing over the same area, it will never be easy to smoothly integrate with each other.

Everyone seems to blame ED, but why?  Ugra applied to make a better and bigger Normandy map and ED gave their permission.  They did not have to do that.

Would you prefer that Ugra was denied?  If so you can make it as if they were by not buying Normandy two and carrying on as if it never happened.

As for Ugra, perhaps they were surprised when the channel map was released.  They may well have been working on the entire area of northern france and southern england  well before that was announced.

Naturally ED and Ugra have a LOT of money invested in these maps, I am betting millions of pounds/ dollars, these things are not drawn on a sheet of A4 paper with crayons.  Both are looking for a maximum return on their investment and that means they are trying their best not to tread on each others toes.

It appears that the two competing maps are technologically incompatible, therefore Ugra has reduced the resolution of a large area of Normandy 2 covered by the channel map. Naturally, ED will have insisted on this to protect their investment.

My idea (and perhaps already in the works) to merge the two areas into one, is to allow Ugra to keep their no doubt original, non degraded resolution of the channel map area and develop it with detailed airfields and urban areas.  Those already owning Normandy two and the channel map can make the decision to keep as is, with two maps; or enable the new high resolution area. 

If enabled, you pay the price of the channel map getting deleted from your account and the channel map area becoming full resolution Normandy two instead.

ED can continue Channel as a standalone for those that want it, keep the money they already earned from sales, and future sales guaranteed from people wanting to open up the full potential of Normandy two, perhaps with a discount if so.

You benefit from having a large amount of hard drive space restored and a fully fledged English channel zone.  ED has their investment protected and Ugra gets to sell their map in concert with ED.  I would guess Ugra, if caught by surprise by channel map has already put a lot of prior work into the degraded area and that work would not be going to waste.  For sure with the promise of a complete southern england, northern france map available;  Channel map owners will be tempted to buy the Normandy expansion  and Normandy two owners will be tempted to buy the channel expansion.

They are already discounting for owners of both.  So it would not be a very expensive proposition.

 

Seems a fair way for all in my book, with a lot of choices for the customer and nobody can be accused of rendering anyone's missions or campaigns unusable.  The end user makes that decision.

Edited April 6, 2023 by Tinkickef

[splash]

Hi, could you tell me which will be the price when owning both Normandy and Channel maps? It the FAQ says: 

"DCS: Normandy 2 will be available as a complete map for $59.99 USD with 20% off while in Early Access. If you have either DCS: Normandy 1944 or DCS: The Channel maps, you can purchase Normandy 2 for $14.99 USD. If you own both, you can purchase DCS: Normandy 2 for only $9.99 USD."

but I only see advertisements about $14.99 if you already have one of the maps, but not both.

 

Thanks.

[AdrianL]

4 minutes ago, splash said:

It the FAQ says

It will be $9.99.  Kate confirmed it here.

 

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[cfrag]

49 minutes ago, splash said:

If you own both, you can purchase DCS: Normandy 2 for only $9.99 USD."

but I only see advertisements about $14.99 if you already have one of the maps, but not both.

TBH, we are talking about a USD 5 difference. For a game that requires a 1000+ USD device (computer) to access, usually a lot more. I like to keep a modicum of perspective, those few bucks don't make a difference to me. I use the 'Cinema yardstick' comparison: where I live, 20 USD buy me 2 hours of passive cinematic entertainment, no drinks nor food included. Here (Normy 2) we get hours more of active entertainment - at much less the cost. Let's just rejoice.

Looking at the work that has gone in the expansion alone (just watched the grim reaper's first impression of London and Paris), I'd say: I'm fully prepared to even pay full price for that much added quality; let's give the developers full appreciation for their hard work and not start nickel-and-diming an incredible achievement. I've paid far more for VR experiences that deliver less than these maps promise to do (just exploring London in a Huey is likely to take half a day, even more for Paris) - and didn't feel cheated then, nor will I now. The only thing I wish Ugra would improve: release it now!  

[Rex]

Damn, I almost thought it had been released this weekend.

I refresh the DCS News page numerous times/day to see if this has been released yet, and DCS teased me a couple of days ago with a news item saying "Get Ready For Normandy 2!"

Well, I am ready, and I'm not rich, but I could not care less how much it costs, because whatever they're charging is too little.  I mean London?  AND Paris?  Holy #@$#$ing #$@$@$!  Can you even imagine how time-consuming and tedious that has been.  And I still love Normandy 1.  Just the other day I found Mont Saint-Michel ... couldn't believe they had it modeled in detail.  

As for me, I'll re-buy Normandy 1, Re-buy Channel 1, Re-buy Persian Gulf, Re-buy South Atlantic, lose my existing missions, lose my virginity again (yeah ... "again" ... that's my position and I'm sticking with it), dance at your third-cousin's wedding, and eat my own pinky toe if that's what it takes to get this released.

Name your price, I'm paying it ... even if I gotta shake my money-maker to do it.

Please, take my money.

Soon.

The sooner the better.

Thank you.

Edited April 17, 2023 by Rex

[CRUD]

does this mean an update for WWII Assests Pack too?

[Gunfreak]

22 minutes ago, CRUD said:

does this mean an update for WWII Assests Pack too?

Not heard anything about that, asset pack is EDs department. 

[MickV]

Apologies if this has been asked and answered, but will any of the airfields be equipped with systems to support the various radio-homing equipment? Ie th e AFN-2 in the Bf-109, Fw-190, etc.

Or will we still need to do a workaround with scripting? 

[NineLine]

Dear all,

Thank your for your passion, support and most importantly patience as this project has developed and details have been ironed out, we are now so very close to release we decided to update and post a new FAQ that can be found below. Please feel free to comment and ask questions there and we will do our very best to answer. 

Thank you
The ED Team & Ugra Media