WipeUout Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 SSAO = off In my case, it is a 1.4ms negative impact on my GPU frametime for very little difference in image quality. Even in pancake mode it does not make a significant difference in visual improvement for me. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ i9-13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB, ADDLINK S72 2TB, TM WARTHOG COMBO + PENDULAR RUDDER PEDALS, PIMAX 8K X, Sony 5.1 Spks+SubW | DCS OB, A-10C_II, AH-64D, F-14/16/18, F-86F, AV-8B, M-2000C, SA342, Huey, Spitfire, FC3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted January 9, 2023 ED Team Share Posted January 9, 2023 Hey guys, this is reported internally and already some tweaks and fixes being checked, I will leave this open for any more data and examples as well as for when fixes come through. Edit: looks like we are testing a new option to turn off flat shadow softening. 10 4 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 8 hours ago, NineLine said: Edit: looks like we are testing a new option to turn off flat shadow softening. Ok, thank you for good info but does it mean that flat shadow will be present in 2.7 style or something like this? We need flat shadows (in 2.7 they looked ok) but with 2.7 performance :). Without flat shadow the terrain looks a little without deep. Too flat. Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExGreyFox Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 On 1/9/2023 at 4:56 PM, NineLine said: Edit: looks like we are testing a new option to turn off flat shadow softening. Many thanks for this. Intel i7-8700k Coffee Lake@stock G.Skill TridentZ RGB 32GB (2x16) 3200MHz ASUS ROG STRIX GTX 1080 Ti Maximus X FORMULA Z370 BIOS 1401 NZXT Kraken x62 SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 500GB (OS) SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 1TB (Games) Corsair AX1200i 1200 Watt Cooler Master HAF X HOTAS Warthog | VKB MCG Pro GunFighter Mk. II | MFG Crosswind | TrackIR 5 Heatware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5ephir0th Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 On 1/9/2023 at 11:56 PM, NineLine said: Hey guys, this is reported internally and already some tweaks and fixes being checked, I will leave this open for any more data and examples as well as for when fixes come through. Edit: looks like we are testing a new option to turn off flat shadow softening. Looks great, thanks! NZXT H9 Flow Black | Intel Core i5 13600KF OCed P5.6 E4.4 | Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX | G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5-6000 32GB C30 OCed 6600 C32 | nVidia GeForce RTX 4090 Founders Edition | Western Digital SN770 2TB | Gigabyte GP-UD1000GM PG5 ATX 3.0 1000W | SteelSeries Apex 7 | Razer Viper Mini | SteelSeries Artics Nova 7 | LG OLED42C2 | Xiaomi P1 55" Virpil T-50 CM2 Base + Thrustmaster Warthog Stick | WinWing Orion 2 F16EX Viper Throttle | WinWing ICP | 3 x Thrustmaster MFD | Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals | Oculus Quest 2 DCS World | Persian Gulf | Syria | Flaming Cliff 3 | P-51D Mustang | Spitfire LF Mk. IX | Fw-109 A-8 | A-10C II Tank Killer | F/A-18C Hornet | F-14B Tomcat | F-16C Viper | F-15E Strike Eagle | M2000C | Ka-50 BlackShark III | Mi-24P Hind | AH-64D Apache | SuperCarrier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Not solved yet? I dont see any improvments for this flat shadows in current patch 1 Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gripen 4-1 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 @YoYoare you in VR ? Since the update mine automatically starts with OpenXR, even I never configured it that way. My stable still starts with SteamVR SYS: MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge Wifi || Ryzen 5900x || Gainward RTX4090 || 2x16 Gb Crucial Ballistix RGB 3200@3800 || XPG Core Reactor 850 Watt PSU || Kingston Fury 2 TB NVME SSD || WD SN850 1TB NVME || 1 x 500 GB Crucial MX300 SATA SSD || 2 x HDD 3TB || Thrustmaster F-16 & F-18 Stick on Virpil War BRD Bases || WinWing Orion2 F-16EX Viper Throttle Combo || WinWing Orion2 F/A-18 Hornet Throttle Combo (With Finger Lift) || WinWing Takeoff Panel II MFG Crosswind Pedals w. Damper || 3 x Thrustmaster Cougar MFD || Multipurpose UFC || Wheel Stand Pro II VR: HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obious Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 21 minutes ago, Gripen 4-1 said: @YoYoare you in VR ? Since the update mine automatically starts with OpenXR, even I never configured it that way. My stable still starts with SteamVR I doubt they would change something like this without mentioning it in the logs but it wouldn’t surprise me if they did 1 Intel 12900k @ 5.2Ghz, RTX 4090, Samsung 1TB NVME, Thrustmaster Warthog & F-18 stick, Pendular Rudder Pedals - Quest Pro AV8B N/A UFC Build Log AV8B N/A PCBs for sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 35 minutes ago, YoYo said: I dont see any improvments for this flat shadows in current patch Devs are working on it. 3 Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 5 hours ago, Gripen 4-1 said: @YoYoare you in VR ? Since the update mine automatically starts with OpenXR, even I never configured it that way. My stable still starts with SteamVR I fired up DCS. I see, after Todays patch, it started to work as Open XR? Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timcat Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Multithreading in March OB supposedly. 1 I9-9900KS OC 5.2, Asus Maximus XI Hero, MSI RTX 4090 , EVGA 1200W P2 power supply, 2TB M.2 SSD, 64GB ram@3200mhz, Corsair H115i Pro AIO, Samsung Odyssey+, Reverb G2, Quest 3(new) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WipeUout Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 hour ago, AirMeister said: few patches that brought even more performance decrease Yes and No. We now have native OpenXR support in the latest OB. I gained quite a bit with about 1ms in GPU frametime and 1.3ms in CPU frametime. Of course, results vary depending on your particular hardware. Look here to see "how to": ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ i9-13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB, ADDLINK S72 2TB, TM WARTHOG COMBO + PENDULAR RUDDER PEDALS, PIMAX 8K X, Sony 5.1 Spks+SubW | DCS OB, A-10C_II, AH-64D, F-14/16/18, F-86F, AV-8B, M-2000C, SA342, Huey, Spitfire, FC3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted February 10, 2023 ED Team Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 hour ago, AirMeister said: Just checking in , i see there's been a few patches that brought even more performance decrease ? I was just wondering when i can play again, it's been months now. Is there any news regarding the multicore and api thing ? We should have an option for non-blurred flat shadows coming soon that should help with this issue, as well MT is on its way soon and should help as well. 1 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convexrook Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 On 2/10/2023 at 12:03 PM, timcat said: Multithreading in March OB supposedly. ED never said this, they only announced the next open Beta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 I hope its true! 1 Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog_driver Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 30 minutes ago, AirMeister said: I don't have high hopes anymore considering everythying. At this point i fear a brand new game engine is needed. Somebody said some time ago that ED would need 6 million dollars to rewrite the code, so I wouldn't hold my breath... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted February 14, 2023 ED Team Share Posted February 14, 2023 Wait for Multithreading and the upcoming shadow options and lets go from there. 4 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convexrook Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 20 hours ago, NineLine said: Wait for Multithreading and the upcoming shadow options and lets go from there. In the mean time soak up some Vox Machina and relax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 22 hours ago, NineLine said: Wait for Multithreading and the upcoming shadow options and lets go from there. In March OB patch? I can take it! 1 Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommandT Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) Hey folks, I'm not sure if my problem is related to this or not but I also noticed significant FPS drops. One of the most notable is 3D grass which I never had any problems with at all. Always had the slider up to max and enjoyed a totally stutter free experience. Now with the slider even set to 30% there's a significant loss in fps and stutters (when the grass is in close proximity). I tried turning down the shadows from medium to low and secondary shadows off but it seems to have had no effect. Really quite upset with this now Also I'm definitely getting loss in performance over dense areas such as Incerlik, where again I had absolutely no issues with the same settings before! Really hoping this gets resolved soon! Edited March 1, 2023 by CommandT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Did you test it? Todays OB patch: Fixed excessive amount of triangles and objects when terrain objects shadows set to FLAT/OFF Settings. Add item for Blur Flat Shadows to graphics options Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) Tested (SC still). According me .... I dont see performance like it was in 2.7 still after the Today's patch. Terrain shadows: Flat. What do you think? Edited March 10, 2023 by YoYo 1 Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zildac Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 26 minutes ago, YoYo said: Tested (SC still). According me .... I dont see performance like it was in 2.7 still after the Today's patch. Terrain shadows: Flat. What do you think? For me, the terrain shadows performance issue seems to be fixed. I am also running flat. Can't say if it is 2.7 levels, but I don't notice a 10-15FPS drop with them enabled now. 12900KF | Maximus Hero Z690 | ASUS 4090 TUF OC | 64GB DDR5 5200 | DCS on 2TB NVMe | WarBRD+Warthog Stick | CM3 | TM TPR's | Varjo Aero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Just now, zildac said: For me, the terrain shadows performance issue seems to be fixed. I am also running flat. Can't say if it is 2.7 levels, but I don't notice a 10-15FPS drop with them enabled now. Its better with MT version, but not the same performance like = OFF. Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biotech Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Shadows settings has almost no impact on performance in MT mode. It seems to be fixed. 1 Спойлер i7 13700KF @ 5,4 GHz; DDR5 64GB RAM; Palit RTX 4090; AOC AG352UCG 35" 3440x1440; Win11. Oculus Quest Pro. "Marksman-L" rudder by MyCyJIbMaHuH ; VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Base; VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Grip; VPC MongoosT-50CM Throttle. My settings for VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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