Nahen Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) I am flying above three layers of clouds (>40 000 feet) and can see objects on the ground 20-30 miles away. Marked points are air defense vehicles and trucks standing on the ground. There was no such thing before. Edited March 10, 2023 by Nahen 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormBat Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Same here for me. I was on the South Atlantic map. But yes, you can now see ground objects through clouds. X570S AORUS PRO AX MOTHERBOARD, AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 8-core Processor, GIGABYTE GEFORCE RTX 3090 TI, 64GB DDR4(Corsair Vengeance LPX), DARK ROCK PRO 4 250W TDP Heatsink, Corsair AX1600i Power Supply, 2TB SSD, Windows 10 64 Bit VR: HP Reverb G2, VIRPIL: VPC Constellation ALPHA Prim[R], VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle, VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterH Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Had the same on Caucasus Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despayre Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Same for ships, found my carrier group, through the clouds at 30,000 ft, visually! I'm not updating this anymore. It's safe to assume I have all the stuff, and the stuff for the stuff too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nahen Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 Besides, it's great - I have an average fps increase of 40-50% ED+MT = Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAIPAN_ Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Probably same for aircraft as well. Pimax Crystal VR & Simpit User | Ryzen CPU & Nvidia RTX GPU | Some of my mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unlikely_spider Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Ooh this will make spotting so much easier. 1 Modules: Wright Flyer, Spruce Goose, Voyager 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bri01 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Clouds still blocking my view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar66 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Ground units are having the appearance of bleeding through/ignoring clouds on my experience as well. Down bellow, there are convoys, AAA, SAMS, unarmed units. MT version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sh4rk Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 On 3/10/2023 at 2:53 PM, Nahen said: I am flying above three layers of clouds (>40 000 feet) and can see objects on the ground 20-30 miles away. Marked points are air defense vehicles and trucks standing on the ground. There was no such thing before. Do you have labels on (as 'dots only'?) It looks like the labels could be being drawn even when above clouds, which would make sense if you actually have or want labels on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarowa Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) At least in VR using the MT build, I'm seeing spotting dots through clouds, both for aircraft and ground units. I'm using a Valve Index. I have not tested ST and/or flatscreen. My DCS settings for reference: Edited March 11, 2023 by Sarowa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon_120 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Same here , reverb g2Enviado desde mi ELE-L29 mediante Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nahen Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Sh4rk said: Do you have labels on (as 'dots only'?) It looks like the labels could be being drawn even when above clouds, which would make sense if you actually have or want labels on. I've never used anything like this. I treat DCS like a simulator, not a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted March 12, 2023 ED Team Share Posted March 12, 2023 threads merged we will investigate thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kornykidd0 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 This might not be the right place to post, if it needs to go in the bug section I will put it there. After the MT patch I've noticed that I can see players, AI, and ME structures extremely easily in VR. I'm not sure if this is some kind of intentional fix to make it better for VR players or what, but I have found myself constantly calling out targets air and ground as well as friendly aircraft LONG before my pancake friends are seeing them. They show up as large black pixels but are also visible through clouds (I think) which leads me to believe its a glitch or an unintentional side effect. Today I was walking my CPG in the apache onto an enemy compound from ~18km away at ~100ft elevation from the pilot seat with no zoom or anything. I also just watched a Longshot youtube video and he mentioned that he saw some bandits that i think were pretty far away but he was commenting on how well he could see them. So what is this? A glitch or a godsend for VR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unlikely_spider Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 VR is the new AWACS. Really though, I could see objects through the clouds from many miles away. So I'm sure this will be fixed soon. Modules: Wright Flyer, Spruce Goose, Voyager 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer.xd Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Do you have any screenshots or a video record of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 VR always had been a better spotter for the Mk.1 eyeball than its 2D counterpart. I think there has been a rather scientific experiment video about this some time ago. I Fly, Therefore I Am. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc9BDi-STaqgWsjNiHbW0fA Make OH-6A Official! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Rift S T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar66 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 On 3/14/2023 at 7:53 AM, VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants said: VR always had been a better spotter for the Mk.1 eyeball than its 2D counterpart. I think there has been a rather scientific experiment video about this some time ago. But with this bug/glitch is much worse. Anyone with a decent 2D setup properly and being close enough to the monitor can see everything with overcast weather with lots of clouds. The more clouds, the better you see aircraft and ground units. This breaks the experience at any serious mission based on low intel and visual training to the point of avoiding 100% MT unless is for bug checking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIghtymoo Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 On 3/10/2023 at 6:53 PM, Nahen said: I am flying above three layers of clouds (>40 000 feet) and can see objects on the ground 20-30 miles away. Marked points are air defense vehicles and trucks standing on the ground. There was no such thing before. No dots enabled? Intel i9 13900K | RTX4090 | 64 Gb DDR4 3600 CL18 | 2Tb PCIe4.0 | Varjo Aero | Pico 4 on WIFI6e | Virtual Desktop running VDXR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unlikely_spider Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, MIghtymoo said: No dots enabled? No, the objects themselves are visible through clouds and fog. 1 Modules: Wright Flyer, Spruce Goose, Voyager 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIghtymoo Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Reported? Intel i9 13900K | RTX4090 | 64 Gb DDR4 3600 CL18 | 2Tb PCIe4.0 | Varjo Aero | Pico 4 on WIFI6e | Virtual Desktop running VDXR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarowa Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, MIghtymoo said: Reported? Edited April 24, 2023 by Sarowa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar66 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, unlikely_spider said: No, the objects themselves are visible through clouds and fog. It is actually the single dark pixel 'speck'/'spot' placed to aid spotting without relying on units geometry from far distances. This is what's bleeding through clouds. Units 3d geometry won't bypass cloud masking. (ALL LABELS TURNED OFF, this is not related to any label or enabled aid in options) This bug is also happening against atmosphere scattering at long, VERY long distances. Bellow are both being demonstrated. It is not only ground units but all units including aircraft. 2 minutes ago, Czar66 said: It is actually the single dark pixel 'speck'/'spot' placed to aid spotting without relying on units geometry from far distances. This is what's bleeding through clouds. Units 3d geometry won't bypass cloud masking. (ALL LABELS TURNED OFF, this is not related to any label or enabled aid in options) This bug is also happening against atmosphere scattering at long, VERY long distances. Bellow are both being demonstrated. It is not only ground units but all units including aircraft. In the second picture, yes there are aircraft 19nm out, but the grouping that's flat in the blue circle is a SAM site very far away. Edited April 25, 2023 by Czar66 Explained further that is not related to any kind of label aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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