Europe Wishlist Thread

[McRuffen]

As I said when I also suggested this:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=200319

 

 

This would really be a good map to showcase DCS graphics with fjords, mountains, valleys and great plains, rivers and lakes, vast forests and wilderness, as well as plenty of ocean to do carrier ops in.

 

 

If the map contained Norway, Sweden, Finland and Russia/Soviet, there would be plenty of scenarios that could play out. I think that the map should cover from the northernmost parts of mainland Norway, Sweden, Finland and Russia, and at least as far south as Bodø, as this is an important fighter base.

 

 

The bigger the better of course, and most of it is wilderness, so it would not be as tedious to make as for example downtown Dubai or Las Vegas with hundreds of landmarks and unique buildings. Create some of the most prominent buildings and bridges in the cities and the vast wilderness in between would consist of mountains, rivers, roads and trees, mainly.

 

 

 

It's an exotic location, with polar night and biting cold or winter storms in the winter, and midnight sun and beautiful sights in the summer.

 

 

The terrain in the mentioned area is very varied, and you do get a lot of "bang for the buck" in terms of interesting locations to fly and fight.

[SGT Coyle]

GIUK Line.

Gotta keep those russkies bottled up.

No offense.

[Fisherman82]

As I said when I also suggested this:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=200319

 

 

This would really be a good map to showcase DCS graphics with fjords, mountains, valleys and great plains, rivers and lakes, vast forests and wilderness, as well as plenty of ocean to do carrier ops in.

 

 

If the map contained Norway, Sweden, Finland and Russia/Soviet, there would be plenty of scenarios that could play out. I think that the map should cover from the northernmost parts of mainland Norway, Sweden, Finland and Russia, and at least as far south as Bodø, as this is an important fighter base.

 

 

The bigger the better of course, and most of it is wilderness, so it would not be as tedious to make as for example downtown Dubai or Las Vegas with hundreds of landmarks and unique buildings. Create some of the most prominent buildings and bridges in the cities and the vast wilderness in between would consist of mountains, rivers, roads and trees, mainly.

 

 

 

It's an exotic location, with polar night and biting cold or winter storms in the winter, and midnight sun and beautiful sights in the summer.

 

 

The terrain in the mentioned area is very varied, and you do get a lot of "bang for the buck" in terms of interesting locations to fly and fight.

 

If you would extend it just a little more south of Bodø you would also get the war-base at Jokkmokk in Sweden. That would be awesome. But I can settle for just Kiruna and Pajala Airports and a bit of road somewhere, I just want a bit of Sweden for my Viggen.

 

I totaly understand what you mean with biting cold and exotic, I guess you mean something like this

 

(Taped in the north of Sweden, Viggens out of F21 at Luleå)

[Stratos]

With such map I will try to get the Viggen, it simply will more sense in such a map than in Caucasus or the PG, after all Sweden is mostly neutral.

[F4ttyRider]

+1 The midnight sun and the dark winter time would be awesome to fly.

[COBronco]

I'm curious if DCS has ever considered doing a ETO map mimicking the Cold War years? My father was in the US Army and we were stationed over in West Germany twice 79-82 & 85-90, so I remember living in a heightened state of security and sometimes fear being so close to the front lines of the Cold War.

 

The US bases, along with French and West German bases, countered by the East German and Soviet bases would be amazing in my opinion. Just the bases located in West Germany you had Ramstein (F-16s), Sembach (A-10s), Hahn (F-16s), Bitburg (F-15s), Rhein-Main (support), Spangdahlem (F-16s) , Zweibruken (F-4s). Further west you had Soesterberg (F-15s) in the Netherlands, Torrejon (F-16s) in Spain. England has Lakenheath (F-15s, F-111s). To the south you had Aviano (F-16s) in Italy. The users of Combat Arms can use the Fulda Gap as a potential battle ground. A-10s were made specifically for the ETO to fend off a Soviet attack through the gap. I think the map makes perfect sense for DCS, and I think it would bring a very dynamic theatre to this game.

[Lenux]

+ 100

[QuiGon]

Many wishlist threads have already been created for DCS: Fulda Gap 1985 (or something similar). It's definitely very high up on my own wishlist :thumbup:

[Santus]

+1

[Automan]

Some years ago...a dream, not a wishlist

Edited December 13, 2020 by Automan
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[Duster]

Some years ago...a dream, not a wishlist :music_whistling:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2785102&postcount=34

 

 

I would take a little more north and west, so as to include Ghedi and the south of Germany, the operating theater was that ...but they will never consider us ...

[SkHiTech]

+1

[Lenux]

+ 1

[River]

Vietnam theater first please.

[MacEwan]

I would take this before Vietnam theater

[Bobby]

+1

[FRECCIA01]

Ghedi AB must be included.

But is important to have a PA200 Tornado IDS as full complex module to operate in this map.

I think the Tornado must be the first choice in the list of the next DCS complex module.

[Pikey]

Ghedi AB must be included.

But is important to have a PA200 Tornado IDS as full complex module to operate in this map.

I think the Tornado must be the first choice in the list of the next DCS complex module.

 

 

Ghedi adds 90-100nm to the edge of that proposal on a 450nm square. Aviano has to be a hard stop in the top left corner of the map else it's just impossible for the engine.

 

 

 

The only way you can get the Balkans in, and include Kosovo in the SE, Belgrade in the NE and Aviano in the NW is to exclude any detail in Italy at all or get bogged down in doing a full country with 60m population that isn't going to be the center of the action.

 

 

Classically, this arena for conflict is just a perfect place and time for DCS, this is undoubtedly where you can fly most modules, in near history, use most assets out of the engine, have access to carriers and open ocean, multiple airfields, beautiful scenery, simulate a real full scale conflict with multiple belligerents for broad appeal with fairly modern inventories. It is in my opinion, providing more options to serious milsim mission designers than the PG map, which suffers from some more incredible options if you want to use anywhere other than the islands. I could get lost in designing content in this area for years.

[FRECCIA01]

Ghedi adds 90-100nm to the edge of that proposal on a 450nm square. Aviano has to be a hard stop in the top left corner of the map else it's just impossible for the engine.

 

 

 

The only way you can get the Balkans in, and include Kosovo in the SE, Belgrade in the NE and Aviano in the NW is to exclude any detail in Italy at all or get bogged down in doing a full country with 60m population that isn't going to be the center of the action.

 

 

Classically, this arena for conflict is just a perfect place and time for DCS, this is undoubtedly where you can fly most modules, in near history, use most assets out of the engine, have access to carriers and open ocean, multiple airfields, beautiful scenery, simulate a real full scale conflict with multiple belligerents for broad appeal with fairly modern inventories. It is in my opinion, providing more options to serious milsim mission designers than the PG map, which suffers from some more incredible options if you want to use anywhere other than the islands. I could get lost in designing content in this area for years.

 

You are right, but is not important to create some details of Italy for a fututre Balkan Map for DCS but only to have the air base used in during the allied operation and Ghedi AB was used for the Deliberate Force operations.

If a DCS Balkan Map come true I think that close an era for the BMS Falcon 4

[JagHond]

Couldn't agree more with you, Automan and Freccia.

This, if properly created, would be a challenging scenery too.

But, as previously stated, they never hear us... so keep on dreaming.

With best regards.

[wasizyayo]

Western Balkans, including Italy. I think you can almost certainly build Operation Allied Force.

[Xilon_x]

Some years ago...a dream, not a wishlist :music_whistling:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2785102&postcount=34

 

 

 

and the military airports in the capital ROME?

 

 

from what I see on the map the military airport of amendola is not there.IS WRONG LOCATION

Grottaglie airport is not there.IS WRONG LOCATION

please don't make mistakes.

 

 

 

AMENDOLA ICAO CODE LIBA coordinates on google map is this 41°32′29″N 15°43′05″E

 

GROTTAGLIE ICAO CODE LIBG coordinates on google map is this 40°30′58.22″N 17°24′17.23″E

Edited December 29, 2019 by Xilon_x

[smire666]

It would be nice dream, now with Viper :pilotfly:

[dali]

this theatre has it all - sea, mountains, plenty of airports, western and eastern aircraft/hardware, NATO, non-alligned, WP....

[tugais]

It would be a very popular theater for sure, but the current engine cannot handle such a huge amount of 3D objects. Perhaps when ED will develop a new engine for DCS.