draconus Posted April 25, 2024 Posted April 25, 2024 15 hours ago, Horns said: Would be great if you can, but either way ED has the choice to alter the schedule. @Silver_Dragon Would you know if it be a lot more work for ED to release the patch for a new module and the regular planned update separately? They have a choice but it doesn't make sense to break a schedule now. The module has to come with a patch to add it to DCS, together with new functionality, AI, weapons and textures/models in coremods, database files and whatnot to function properly. HB isn't even ready since they're still tweaking it. After all is ready and sent, ED has to test it on their dev version. If all is fine we can get the patch. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
Horns Posted April 25, 2024 Posted April 25, 2024 1 hour ago, draconus said: They have a choice but it doesn't make sense to break a schedule now. The module has to come with a patch to add it to DCS, together with new functionality, AI, weapons and textures/models in coremods, database files and whatnot to function properly. HB isn't even ready since they're still tweaking it. After all is ready and sent, ED has to test it on their dev version. If all is fine we can get the patch. Oh yeah, they clearly aren’t ready now. The next planned update would be May 22 by my count, so if the F-4E i won’t make that date but is likely to make the end of the window I guess it might make more sense for ED to delay the planned update to the 29th, or even the 31st, to give HB (and ED’s testers) the chance to make the window than add a patch out of phase. All just conjecture though. 1 Modules: [A-10C] [AJS 37] [AV8B N/A] [F-5E] [F-14] [F-15E] [F-16] [F/A-18C] [FC3] [Ka-50] [M-2000C] [Mig-21 bis] [Afghanistan] [Cold War: Germany] [Iraq] [Kola] [NTTR] [PG] [SC] Intel i9-14900KF, Nvidia GTX 4080, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Master X 64GB DDR5 @ 6400 MHz, SteelSeries Apex Pro, Asus ROG Gladius 3, VKB Gunfighter 3 w/ F-14 grip, VKB STECS throttle, Thrustmaster MFD Cougars x2, MFG Crosswind, DSD Flight Series button controller, XK-24, Meta Quest 3
mondo Posted April 25, 2024 Posted April 25, 2024 6 hours ago, draconus said: They have a choice but it doesn't make sense to break a schedule now. The module has to come with a patch to add it to DCS, together with new functionality, AI, weapons and textures/models in coremods, database files and whatnot to function properly. HB isn't even ready since they're still tweaking it. After all is ready and sent, ED has to test it on their dev version. If all is fine we can get the patch. Speaking from experience, I'd be genuinely surprised if HB and ED didn't have shared repositories and the Phantom hasn't been tested as a module within internal versions of DCS for some months, possibly as soon as they had code available to integrate over a year back. ED obviously have a way of putting in placeholder aircraft and an SDK that allows functionality of modules to be mixed and matched as we've seen that in other modules under development. We haven't lived in a world of alpha, beta and gold versions of software for literally decades at this point. We just have incrementally higher version numbers with flags to denote what works and to what level. 1
Stackup Posted April 25, 2024 Posted April 25, 2024 Earlier today, Cobra said they have an actual release date that is currently pending. 2 1 Modules: F-14A/B, F/A-18C, F-16C, F-4E, F-5E, FC3, AV-8B, Mirage 2000C, L-39, Huey, F-86, P-51, P-47, Spitfire, Mosquito, Supercarrier Maps: Persian Gulf, Syria, NTTR, Marianas, Normandy 2, Channel, Kola Upcoming Modules Wishlist: A-1H, A-7E, A-6E, Naval F-4, F-8J, F-100D, MiG-17F
Nuckerball Posted April 25, 2024 Posted April 25, 2024 2 hours ago, Stackup said: Earlier today, Cobra said they have an actual release date that is currently pending. So mid june 1
Stackup Posted April 26, 2024 Posted April 26, 2024 47 minutes ago, Nuckerball said: So mid june Sure, you can wait till then. I'll buy it and fly it when they release it. 4 Modules: F-14A/B, F/A-18C, F-16C, F-4E, F-5E, FC3, AV-8B, Mirage 2000C, L-39, Huey, F-86, P-51, P-47, Spitfire, Mosquito, Supercarrier Maps: Persian Gulf, Syria, NTTR, Marianas, Normandy 2, Channel, Kola Upcoming Modules Wishlist: A-1H, A-7E, A-6E, Naval F-4, F-8J, F-100D, MiG-17F
Jacknemo Posted April 26, 2024 Posted April 26, 2024 Based on track record, May 31 is highly optimistic. They'll find another show stopper bug and back the release off another couple of months. This may be an endless loop. 2
ED Team NineLine Posted April 26, 2024 ED Team Posted April 26, 2024 On 4/24/2024 at 1:04 PM, Horns said: Would be great if you can, but either way ED has the choice to alter the schedule. @Silver_Dragon Would you know if it be a lot more work for ED to release the patch for a new module and the regular planned update separately? For what it's worth, module releases do not need to wait till patch day. So the schedule could be altered in that sense. And to be clear I am not saying its releasing before, at or after the next patch, just stating that we are not forced to wait for a patch. Thanks. 10 3 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Horns Posted April 26, 2024 Posted April 26, 2024 1 minute ago, NineLine said: For what it's worth, module releases do not need to wait till patch day. So the schedule could be altered in that sense. And to be clear I am not saying its releasing before, at or after the next patch, just stating that we are not forced to wait for a patch. Thanks. Thanks for clarifying this, appreciate it 1 Modules: [A-10C] [AJS 37] [AV8B N/A] [F-5E] [F-14] [F-15E] [F-16] [F/A-18C] [FC3] [Ka-50] [M-2000C] [Mig-21 bis] [Afghanistan] [Cold War: Germany] [Iraq] [Kola] [NTTR] [PG] [SC] Intel i9-14900KF, Nvidia GTX 4080, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Master X 64GB DDR5 @ 6400 MHz, SteelSeries Apex Pro, Asus ROG Gladius 3, VKB Gunfighter 3 w/ F-14 grip, VKB STECS throttle, Thrustmaster MFD Cougars x2, MFG Crosswind, DSD Flight Series button controller, XK-24, Meta Quest 3
Fromthedeep Posted April 26, 2024 Posted April 26, 2024 1 hour ago, Jacknemo said: Based on track record, May 31 is highly optimistic. They'll find another show stopper bug and back the release off another couple of months. This may be an endless loop. This all could have been avoided if they haven't committed to any release period in public. Maybe it won't be ready for another 3-4 months, which would be perfectly okay but there's no use in stating a release window in the first place. Just say that it will come out when it's done and that's about it. 2
MAXsenna Posted April 26, 2024 Posted April 26, 2024 For what it's worth, module releases do not need to wait till patch day. So the schedule could be altered in that sense. And to be clear I am not saying its releasing before, at or after the next patch, just stating that we are not forced to wait for a patch. Thanks.Thanks! That's great info! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
Hawke81 Posted April 26, 2024 Posted April 26, 2024 1 hour ago, NineLine said: For what it's worth, module releases do not need to wait till patch day. So the schedule could be altered in that sense. And to be clear I am not saying its releasing before, at or after the next patch, just stating that we are not forced to wait for a patch. Thanks. Thanks for the info, thought I'd read that somewhere before. 1
felixx75 Posted April 26, 2024 Posted April 26, 2024 6 hours ago, Nuckerball said: So mid june In other words, you're basically accusing Heatblur of deliberately telling us untruths...? 1
Art-J Posted April 26, 2024 Posted April 26, 2024 Maybe not "telling untruths", but underestimating last minute bugs that can push module or feature release beyond "hoped for" timeline window. Which happened with HB's products multiple times in the past so why would F-4 be exception now? Maybe they'll release in May, maybe they won't - it comes when it comes. In either case we're getting it anyway. 3 i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10.
freehand Posted April 26, 2024 Posted April 26, 2024 The on going release date is like reading war & peace. 1
Horns Posted April 26, 2024 Posted April 26, 2024 32 minutes ago, freehand said: The on going release date is like reading war & peace. That's one way to pass the time... 1 Modules: [A-10C] [AJS 37] [AV8B N/A] [F-5E] [F-14] [F-15E] [F-16] [F/A-18C] [FC3] [Ka-50] [M-2000C] [Mig-21 bis] [Afghanistan] [Cold War: Germany] [Iraq] [Kola] [NTTR] [PG] [SC] Intel i9-14900KF, Nvidia GTX 4080, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Master X 64GB DDR5 @ 6400 MHz, SteelSeries Apex Pro, Asus ROG Gladius 3, VKB Gunfighter 3 w/ F-14 grip, VKB STECS throttle, Thrustmaster MFD Cougars x2, MFG Crosswind, DSD Flight Series button controller, XK-24, Meta Quest 3
ivo Posted April 26, 2024 Posted April 26, 2024 damn the time I made the purchase, it was supposed to come out last winter, then it was postponed to April, then to May, now hearing from some in June, if it doesn't come out in May via PayPal I ask for a refund, for a matter of respect owed to its customers 2 1 cpu:I7-6700k Z170 16GB Ram DDR4 Gtx 1080 8Gb DDR5 11GBs SSD 500 Gb 2 HDD 1Tb Evga supernova G2 850w Case Bequiet series 800 Silent base Win 10 pro 64 bit My wishlist: F-35/B-17G/F4U Corsair/Yak-3/P-40B Tomahawk
tempusmurphy Posted April 26, 2024 Posted April 26, 2024 If something does happen and they do hold the f4 until June … that is going to be one hell of a patch, with Afghanistan, the ch47 and whatever else we are getting .. that could be two day download 3
Q3ark Posted April 26, 2024 Posted April 26, 2024 The only people talking about a June release are forum users who don’t know any more than anyone else. They’re just pulling dates out of their butt. 5
Gunfreak Posted April 26, 2024 Posted April 26, 2024 3 hours ago, ivo said: damn the time I made the purchase, it was supposed to come out last winter, then it was postponed to April, then to May, now hearing from some in June, if it doesn't come out in May via PayPal I ask for a refund, for a matter of respect owed to its customers It was never postponed to april. Just said they couldn't make the winter date. Then later someone from Heatblur said May 31 as absolute latest. That's it. 1 i7 13700k @5.2ghz, GTX 5090 OC, 128Gig ram 4800mhz DDR5, M2 drive.
ivo Posted April 26, 2024 Posted April 26, 2024 1 hour ago, Gunfreak said: It was never postponed to april. Just said they couldn't make the winter date. Then later someone from Heatblur said May 31 as absolute latest. That's it. DCS: F-4 Phantom Pre-Order How long after the pre-order will it take for the DCS F-4E Phantom II to release? Do you have a release date yet? The DCS F-4E Phantom II is slated to release in May / April 2024. https://store.heatblur.com/pages/avada-faqs cpu:I7-6700k Z170 16GB Ram DDR4 Gtx 1080 8Gb DDR5 11GBs SSD 500 Gb 2 HDD 1Tb Evga supernova G2 850w Case Bequiet series 800 Silent base Win 10 pro 64 bit My wishlist: F-35/B-17G/F4U Corsair/Yak-3/P-40B Tomahawk
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted April 26, 2024 Posted April 26, 2024 Mountains out of molehills. 1 Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up!
Miro Posted April 26, 2024 Posted April 26, 2024 (edited) The patch comes out on May 3 rd EDIT: Nevermind... Edited April 26, 2024 by Miro 1 :pilotfly:
mondo Posted April 26, 2024 Posted April 26, 2024 8 hours ago, ivo said: damn the time I made the purchase, it was supposed to come out last winter, then it was postponed to April, then to May, now hearing from some in June, if it doesn't come out in May via PayPal I ask for a refund, for a matter of respect owed to its customers HB never said April, they said latest May 31st back in March. The only people saying June are players making things up. 3
Hawke81 Posted April 26, 2024 Posted April 26, 2024 (edited) 37 minutes ago, mondo said: HB never said April, they said latest May 31st back in March. The only people saying June are players making things up. They said they were aiming for April with end of May as a worst case scenario. Edited April 26, 2024 by Hawke81 2
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