ED Team Graphics Posted April 5, 2024 ED Team Posted April 5, 2024 05 April 2024 Dear Fighter Pilots, Partners and Friends, The initial set of answers from the 15th Anniversary Q&A, presented by Matt “Wags” Wagner is now available for your enjoyment here! We hope that this video gives you a better understanding of our plans and goals regarding game performance in 2024 and beyond. Answers on additional topics will release steadily over the coming months. Thanks again to all of you who took the time to participate, we are truly grateful. We are thrilled to share our latest development on the DCS: F-16C Viper’s complex INS and GPS improvements. It is important to note that not all features have been added and more enhancements and bug fixes will be coming soon. Fox3 Managed Solutions group is running a DCS tournament in support of the K9sforWarriors charity. We encourage you to participate in the event as all proceeds will go to the cause. Please check out the details below. Thank you for your passion and support. Yours sincerely, Eagle Dynamics 15th Anniversary Q&A Videos Performance We hope that our approach to packaging your questions works well and that you will enjoy Matt’s performance. Over the coming months we will be providing further videos covering your 2000+ questions. As you can imagine, quite a few of the issues raised have similarities and hence we have categorised them in subject matter blocks published on Youtube and on our Forums. Enjoy! Check out the first video on Performance questions. Written and additional answers can be found on the Forum here. Thank you for your patience and all your support! F-16C Viper Development Report F-16C INS+GPS System Overview The navigation system on the DCS: F-16C Viper is a complicated mixture of technical solutions that are intended to supply the avionics with coordinates, velocity, and angles, that are characterised by precision, availability, integrity and autonomy. This is achieved by the cooperative work of the Inertial Navigation System (INS) and Global Positioning System (GPS) whose navigation inputs are processed through a Kalman filter in the Modular Mission Computer (MMC). Let’s discuss each of the components in detail. INS The Inertial Navigation System is an autonomous device that performs dead reckoning of aircraft coordinates by measuring the accelerations and then integrating them twice whilst taking into account the aircraft’s orientation in space. The latter is obtained from the F-16 ring-laser gyros. This type of INS is termed “strapdown” as there are no rotating parts. Basically, INS consists of three accelerometers, each for one orthogonal axis, and three gyros. The main features of INS improvements are: Autonomy, as it doesn’t require any external signals to do dead reckoning. Stability in a short period of time (5-10 minutes). Noticeable error accumulation over longer periods of time based on the physics of dead reckoning. Together with the integration of accelerations (to update speed) and integration of position (to update coordinates), the small errors at the level of accelerations that are introduced by accelerometer noises and imperfect alignment are integrated twice as well. Furthermore, the larger those errors are, the faster they accumulate due to the so-called integral correction of INS, which updates the local Earth gravitational force vector with the coordinates and adds them into the relative angles of the G vector. Another distinctive feature of INS is the Schuler Oscillation with a period of 84.4 minutes. Due to the integral correction algorithm mentioned above, the INS behaves like a pendulum. In ideal circumstances, it stays in equilibrium while the aircraft moves along the Earth. When coordinate errors appear, it displaces the pendulum from the resting point and it starts oscillating. The larger the errors are, the larger the amplitude of the introduced oscillations. That’s why one may notice that INS errors get smaller at a rate of 84.4 minutes once airborne. GPS Global positioning system measures the aircraft position by measuring the signal propagation delay from GPS satellites to the receiver. Satellite orbits are precisely known, the exact positions of the satellites are computed according to an almanack that is transmitted in the same GPS radio signals. That’s why GPS needs a couple of minutes after the cold to start obtaining the almanack. The moments of the signal transmission are also known and are defined by a very precise atomic clock on board the satellite. Thus, in an ideal case, if the GPS signals are propagated through space with the constant speed of light, as they do in a vacuum, the receiver could precisely determine its position by intersecting the surfaces of equidistant radio signal delays from the satellites. You may think of it as spheres with centres located at the satellite’s positions, although it’s a bit more complicated in real life. However, there are two significant factors that prevent us from obtaining the ideal point of the surface intersections; the ionospheric delay and multipath. Both add unknown time to the actual signal propagation time. Multipath happens when the receiver is placed relatively near the ground and the signal may be reflected from ground objects that results in the signal's edges degrading; this is similar to an echo in the mountains where it’s too hard to tell one word from another. When such delays are unexpectedly added by the receiver, the precise navigation solution gets lost and the output coordinate gets noisy. That’s where military GPS signals help to get a better signal resolution by the use of so-called P-codes, and the usage of dual frequency helps to eliminate the unknown ionospheric delay. Integrated solution. Kalman filtering To summarise the above: we have two navigation systems, both of which have flaws: INS accumulates errors over time, GPS is noisy and prone to interference due to natural factors like multipath and ionospheric delay and to enemy jamming and spoofing. Here is the good news! There is a way to avoid these flaws with the Kalman filter. It takes GPS and INS coordinates together with speeds as its input. The Kalman filter is a great algorithm that is able to get the maximum precision even out of measurements far from ideal, and it takes the best aspects from both systems: the stability and autonomy of INS and the precision of GPS to obtain an integrated navigation solution that is both stable and precise. Furthermore, the Kalman filter knows, in terms of mathematical equations, the dynamic properties of the aircraft that is moving through space. If the aircraft is moving, it predicts where the aircraft will be on the next filter step. That’s why it is called recursive and the filter won’t let erroneous GPS signals decrease the precision of the output navigation solution. Moreover, it is able to dynamically change its measurements vs. prediction weights to adjust to a degraded navigation precision of any input. Fox3 Solutions Charity Tournament This April, Fox3 is thrilled to announce a heart-pounding, adrenaline-fueled DCS tournament that's not just about showcasing your skills, but also about rallying our incredible community to a great cause; supporting the heroes at K9sForWarriors. Learn more about the K9sForWarriors mission. Mark Your Calendars! The battlefield opens from the 19th of April to the 21st, 2024. Prepare for three days of intense aerial challenges, camaraderie, and epic battles that will test your mettle. Please note that this is a charity event with paid attendance and fantastic prizes: Fox3's Ultimate DCS Skills Showdown is Here! Thank you again for your passion and support, Yours sincerely, 6 3
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted April 5, 2024 Posted April 5, 2024 Thanks Wags for answering the various questions (including my own ). I’m looking forward to the patch next week to test the new INS 4 Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
Mistermann Posted April 5, 2024 Posted April 5, 2024 (edited) 6 hours ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said: Thanks Wags for answering the various questions (including my own ). Concur. It was neat seeing a few names in the Q&A that I recognized from here. I like the Q&A format and really hope this isn't just for the 15th anniversary. This is the kind of thing that I'd like to see at some regular cadence. I know this takes a sizable effort from Wags and the entire team to produce so I'm acknowledging this this a large ask. The good will and transparency that this generates with the community, goes a LONG way however. EDIT: Wags said these will happen "every couple of weeks, or so..." Edited April 5, 2024 by Mistermann 1 System Specs: Spoiler Callsign:Kandy Processor:13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900K - RAM: 64GB - Video Card: NVIDIA RTX 4090 - Display: Pimax 8kx VR Headset - Accessories: VKB Gunfighter III MCG Ultimate, VKB STECS Standard, Thrustmaster TPR Pedals, Simshaker JetPad, Predator HOTAS Mounts, 3D Printed Flight Button Box Video Capture Software: Open Broadcaster Software (OBS), Video Editing Software: PowerDirector 35 Into The Jungle (MP Mission) F18: Scorpion's Sting Apache Campaign - Griffins Kiowa Campaign - Assassins
LastRifleRound Posted April 5, 2024 Posted April 5, 2024 What is the practical affect of the INS changes for the F16 going to be? What will the player notice? Are there any behaviors they should change?
nessuno0505 Posted April 5, 2024 Posted April 5, 2024 Can you add to the newsletter something official about Razbam declaring that they will abandon the development of their modules for dcs world from now on? A lot of speculations is going on among the community and an official answer - if possible - would help to bring clarity. 3
ED Team NineLine Posted April 5, 2024 ED Team Posted April 5, 2024 1 minute ago, nessuno0505 said: Can you add to the newsletter something official about Razbam declaring that they will abandon the development of their modules for dcs world from now on? A lot of speculations is going on among the community and an official answer - if possible - would help to bring clarity. No, we have already posted a statement on Discord and we wont be discussing it anymore until it's resolved. We are doing our best to get it all straightened out. We have nothing more to say on it. 6 3 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 5, 2024 ED Team Posted April 5, 2024 Just to add please stay on the thread topic here, off topic posts will be removed. thank you 3 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
YoYo Posted April 5, 2024 Posted April 5, 2024 (edited) I was looking for news for a few minutes (or seconds, ok ;P) , now I see that it has been reorganized and we can comment on it. Good move, but maybe they should be at the top on the Forum page (on the top of the Forum @BIGNEWY). Just idea. So: 1. Official Newsletters 2. Official Updates 3. Community News Edited April 5, 2024 by YoYo 1 Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 5090 32Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro
unlikely_spider Posted April 5, 2024 Posted April 5, 2024 4 minutes ago, NineLine said: No, we have already posted a statement on Discord and we wont be discussing it anymore until it's resolved. We are doing our best to get it all straightened out. We have nothing more to say on it. Can you keep us up to date here as well? Not all of us are Discord users. 8 1 Modules: Wright Flyer, Spruce Goose, Voyager 1
Mobius_11804 Posted April 5, 2024 Posted April 5, 2024 Since you guys are now in the trenches with RAZBAM and we will not get any updates for their modules in return. Would you at least look into getting the client version of the GBU-28 working? It was stated in their FAQ that it requires a fix from ED. We can get it under the Mudhen without any mods or something, by just copying a Mission Loadout ourselves. 1 Ryzen 7950X | Asus RTX4090 TUF OC | ASUS TUF B650-PLUS | Vengeance 64GB DDR5 5600MHz Pimax Crystal Light | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS with AB Detent Mod and VPC WarBRD-D Base |
Silver_Dragon Posted April 5, 2024 Posted April 5, 2024 5 minutes ago, Mobius_11804 said: Since you guys are now in the trenches with RAZBAM and we will not get any updates for their modules in return. Would you at least look into getting the client version of the GBU-28 working? It was stated in their FAQ that it requires a fix from ED. We can get it under the Mudhen without any mods or something, by just copying a Mission Loadout ourselves. All weapons has on the side of ED, surely GBU-28 required some implements on the core, before release to all aircrafts capables to carry them. For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
Tango3B Posted April 5, 2024 Posted April 5, 2024 1 hour ago, NineLine said: No, we have already posted a statement on Discord and we wont be discussing it anymore until it's resolved. We are doing our best to get it all straightened out. We have nothing more to say on it. I hadn't even noticed the whole dispute until now, I just had too much to do this week. I've only just absorbed the entire available context, which I will not comment on. I'll put it this way, I am shocked. For the moment, as a customer, I'll accept this statement from you. But I would like to point out that this is an extremely serious matter. Not only is the reputation of both sides at stake here, there are a lot of people who, probably just like me, have purchased every module from RAZBAM. Really every module. And I love every single one of them. We had a broadly similar issue with VEAO back then...I really don't want to imagine what would happen if the so-called "worst case" occurs in this case... 2 1
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted April 5, 2024 Posted April 5, 2024 2 hours ago, unlikely_spider said: Can you keep us up to date here as well? I'm sure they'll let us know when everything is resolved (one way or another). Just give everyone some space to talk it out in a serene atmosphere: there's already plenty of drama going on on Discord and Reddit, which doesn't help anyone. 3 Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
Weasel Posted April 5, 2024 Posted April 5, 2024 Does the F/A-18 also benefit in any way of the improvements of INS/GPS from the Viper? 1
SlipHavoc Posted April 5, 2024 Posted April 5, 2024 49 minutes ago, Weasel said: Does the F/A-18 also benefit in any way of the improvements of INS/GPS from the Viper? It will in the future, according to this post from NineLine. 1
Sarge55 Posted April 6, 2024 Posted April 6, 2024 20 hours ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said: I'm sure they'll let us know when everything is resolved (one way or another). Just give everyone some space to talk it out in a serene atmosphere: there's already plenty of drama going on on Discord and Reddit, which doesn't help anyone. The point he was making is that putting info on some random third party site doesn't help those of us that rely on the "Official" forums for our information. It had nothing to do with giving them "space" to resolve the issue. 3 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7 10700K OC 5.1GHZ / 500GB SSD & 1TB M:2 & 4TB HDD / MSI Gaming MB / GTX 1080 / 32GB RAM / Win 10 / TrackIR 4 Pro / CH Pedals / TM Warthog
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted April 6, 2024 Posted April 6, 2024 1 hour ago, Sarge55 said: The point he was making is that I am well aware, thanks. I stand by what I said. 2 Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
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