DCS Patch notes discussion May 2024

[Cepheus76]

Just a small request:

If I understand correctly, the fuzes are set in the mission editor and the entries made in the aircraft must match these settings, so that the fire control computer (or whatever is doing these calculations) can determine the correct release solution etc. Would it be possible that a kneeboard page with the fuze settings chosen in the ME is automatically generated as a reference, much like the one with particulars of the Super Carrier in the Hornet?

I guess that would make many a virtual pilots' life much easier 

[Tango3B]

So, I think we can say that it was apparently worth waiting a day for the patch. Today's patch went absolutely smoothly and what is most important in my opinion is that we have really good download rates today. Kudos to ED. And although today the focus is of course on the Phantom...also big praise for the small but important updates for the F-5E. What else can I say...happy Patch Day everyone and have fun with the F-4.

[Art-J]

1 hour ago, DST said:

Okay, this sounds like there's something wrong with download servers or so, these numbers can't be real, the changelog doesn't seem that massive 

I don't own these maps an my update was about 30 gigs. Keep in mind the F-4 skins alone are 13 gigs and you're downloading them no matter if you own the plane or not.

[DST]

1 minute ago, Art-J said:

I don't own these maps an my update was about 30 gigs. Keep in mind the F-4 skins alone are 13 gigs and you're downloading them no matter if you own the plane or not.

Okay that sounds comprehensible. Don't plan to buy the Phantom right now, just wanted to wait how VR performance turns out. But you can place AI phantoms with all the skins in ME, even if you don't own the module, I forgot about that. So between 30 & 50 gigs for me I suppose.

[Marnes23]

My download was 51 GB according to the downloader but once it reached the 51 GB mark it carried on downloading changing from size downloaded to percentage

Once it reached 150% downloaded I stopped the download and restarted the updater, now it shows a 170 GB download

Very strange but who knows how these things work

[Kayos]

Why are updates so slow these days?  My God

[Johnny Dioxin]

huh? Mine was faster than I've ever had! Been around from the start and normally since I got FTTC fastest transfer is 8.7Mbps - today it was well over 9.

[Qcumber]

25 minutes ago, Marnes23 said:

My download was 51 GB according to the downloader but once it reached the 51 GB mark it carried on downloading changing from size downloaded to percentage

Once it reached 150% downloaded I stopped the download and restarted the updater, now it shows a 170 GB download

Very strange but who knows how these things work

Can anyone clarify if my presumptions are correct. I assume that the size of the download includes replacement files so does not necessarily mean that the final size of the DCS folder will increase by the size of the download.

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

3 minutes ago, Qcumber said:

I assume that the size of the download includes replacement files so does not necessarily mean that the final size of the DCS folder will increase by the size of the download.

Correct. If 1 line of code needs to be changed in a 50GB file it means you'll have to download 50GB even though the total size of the folder after download will only be a few bytes more  This is obviously an extreme example but it gets the point across.

[scommander2]

The size of the download is also related to how many mods that I own, right? 

I had about more than the 100GB download from Steam.

[Hiob]

4 minutes ago, scommander2 said:

The size of the download is also related to how many mods that I own, right? 

I had about more than the 100GB download from Steam.

In a way, yes. Maps affect it more than modules though.

[Kayos]

22 minutes ago, Johnny Dioxin said:

huh? Mine was faster than I've ever had! Been around from the start and normally since I got FTTC fastest transfer is 8.7Mbps - today it was well over 9.

That is slow !!  I have a 1.5GB connection and was only getting the same as you on the patch download.  F-4 at least was 22Mbps.

[AKULA_OPTIMUS]

About the Massun Asset Pack, were not the personnel models included? Its a shame, because all the models we have are from the navy and supercarrier, It would have been nice to have some air force personnel to put in our missions, they can even move and make signals (the ones from the mod), why werent the included?

[Gunfreak]

6 minutes ago, AKULA_OPTIMUS said:

About the Massun Asset Pack, were not the personnel models included? Its a shame, because all the models we have are from the navy and supercarrier, It would have been nice to have some air force personnel to put in our missions, they can even move and make signals (the ones from the mod), why werent the included?

I think static none moving ones are included. But not the animated ones

 

[AKULA_OPTIMUS]

12 minutes ago, Gunfreak said:

I think static none moving ones are included. But not the animated ones

 

Thats enough for me, I was exploring in the editor but couldn´t find them, under what category are they?

[Gunfreak]

6 minutes ago, AKULA_OPTIMUS said:

Thats enough for me, I was exploring in the editor but couldn´t find them, under what category are they?

Don't know.

Just read this that animated ground crew is not part. So I just assumed there was some none animated crew also.

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/316316-massun92s-asset-pack-official-update-march-2024/

[Vakarian]

I noticed something when I went to bind my controls for the Phantom.

There were no prebound axes except Warthog throttle axes and they were correct

@BIGNEWY or @NineLine Do you know if this was intentional DCS core change (something that was requested numerous times) or was it something HB forced on their end? I would be really happy to hear that this was DCS core change and I'm sure there are a lot of others who would be as well.

[PLUTON]

Very nice update, a big thank you to you ED
Everything is good going from downloading to discovering the treasures of the content, this patch is a great gift so thank you again.
The F18 & F 16 pilots are great, the visors work too bad 
that they do not darken the image it is the same lowering or raising.
Is it expected that they will be like on the F15 or the Gazelle that the visors actually tint? That would be great.
Thank you ED and well done to the whole team

[Beirut]

Just back from work and updating prior to getting the Phantom.

 

Is it possible the update is 120GB? That what it looks like.

[Gunfreak]

4 minutes ago, Beirut said:

Just back from work and updating prior to getting the Phantom.

 

Is it possible the update is 120GB? That what it looks like.

I had only 24gig. Pluss the 5.5gig install of the F4 on steam.

But i recently removed the SA map from my DCS. And thar map ha gotten some updates in this patch. So I assumed you have SA, your update should be bigger than mine.

[Beirut]

1 minute ago, Gunfreak said:

I had only 24gig. Pluss the 5.5gig install of the F4 on steam.

But i recently removed the SA map from my DCS. And thar map ha gotten some updates in this patch. So I assumed you have SA, your update should be bigger than mine.

 

I have the SA map, but it still seems like a ginormous update. 126GB. I might need that new 2TB drive for DCS sooner than I thought. 

[Gunfreak]

9 minutes ago, Beirut said:

 

I have the SA map, but it still seems like a ginormous update. 126GB. I might need that new 2TB drive for DCS sooner than I thought. 

It's not actually taking up 126 extra gigs. Most of the install files replace old files. If you checked your dcs install before and after the update. I'm guessing it only increased 10-20gigs at most. 

[freehand]

3 hours ago, Qcumber said:

Can anyone clarify if my presumptions are correct. I assume that the size of the download includes replacement files so does not necessarily mean that the final size of the DCS folder will increase by the size of the download.

I tried to answer in the other thread but is locked regarding performance anyhow for me but not in VR at the moment the kola map is much better performance than Persian gulf map and that's a fast map in VR so make of that what you will but feels good.

[Beirut]

1 hour ago, Gunfreak said:

It's not actually taking up 126 extra gigs. Most of the install files replace old files. If you checked your dcs install before and after the update. I'm guessing it only increased 10-20gigs at most. 

 

I was sure you'd be right, but I checked and I'm at a 713GB install. Pretty sure I posted a week or two about about being at about 600. I have no idea what's what, but...

 

Edit: just checked my post, I was at 691. Not 600. So you were right. Thanks. 

Edited May 22, 2024 by Beirut

[Johnny Dioxin]

12 hours ago, Kayos said:

That is slow !!  I have a 1.5GB connection and was only getting the same as you on the patch download.  F-4 at least was 22Mbps.

It isn't slow for my connection - and in fact it's the fastest transfer rate I've had from any server anywhere - so not exactly indicating a problem.

Used to be considerably slower a couple of years back, but since 2.7 at least it has used the maximum my fibre to the cabinet line can manage. Call a spade a spade.

Just because your line is capable of higher speeds - just like mine it has to deal with the fastest the various lines and junctions along the way can give it - doesn't mean if something isn't at the maximum you could possibly get that it's broken. Don't you download from othe rplaces? It's the same, regardless.

In fact it's the fastest transfer rate for large updates for any flight sim I've seen.

But I won't argue - if you want to rant, that's up to you. This does seem to be forum place for it.