waiting for resolution RAZBAM Situation Post Archive (will be deleted)

[Beirut]

1 hour ago, Nightdare said:

Sorry, but I find this kind of funny

Where did you buy Trust? You got a game(/product) and a thank you for giving them money

And where does it say that you'll get trust and support back? as far as I understand the EULA, it's a business transaction

 

it seems more like you are under the assumption you connected yourself to some kind of religion with your purchase

 

Yeah, but it's still people on both sides of the transaction and sometimes you pick up good vibes, like you do with Heatblur or India Fox Techo, or you get something on the other side of the fence like with, well... the dev we are discussing in this thread.

 

As far as good vibes morphing into trust, that's up to the individual. But I don't think it's unreasonable to have a certain amount of trust even in an online transaction.

[Mizzy]

13 hours ago, Sinclair said:

ED used to say “Thank you for your trust and support” but if we supported them by paying and they stopped to support us in exchange by providing the promised updates, then there is no more bidirectional trust so I guess that is the reason why they rely now on peoples passion, or in other words, unconditional faith, to keep their support.

It's newcomers (or at least to this forum) to DCS that have your opinion. You joined in 2023, I joined in 2005. Your views are based on recent events and not DCS as a whole. DCS has been around for over 20 years and even longer if you look back at the history of the product. Yes, many of us do support the platform and for good reason, it's been developed from a philanthropist origin that no other 'commercial' product is comparable, other than BMS.

Please don't exaggerate nonsense, ED are very supportive of everything in DCS so it is not fair to say they don't. You are, of course entitled to you opinion.

Mizzy 

[Rudel_chw]

4 hours ago, Nightdare said:

it seems more like you are under the assumption you connected yourself to some kind of religion with your purchase

 

This line was totally unnecessary, are you trying to insult fellow users? ... don't know what a Moderator would say, but you have become the latest entry on my ignore list 

[Davee]

On 9/4/2024 at 5:04 PM, Mizzy said:

Unfortunately yes, agreed. time for my bobos.

Haven't heard bobos since last in England in the 60's. You have to be a Brit? 

[TKhaos]

On 9/5/2024 at 10:52 AM, Sinclair said:

ED used to say “Thank you for your trust and support” but if we supported them by paying and they stopped to support us in exchange by providing the promised updates, then there is no more bidirectional trust so I guess that is the reason why they rely now on peoples passion, or in other words, unconditional faith, to keep their support.

You make it sound like ED take your money and run and just abandon everything which is far from the truth. ED and the other developers still provide updates, support and the game itself is constantly being updated. There has been some issues with things like the Hawk but in general updates/support are pretty good, maybe not as fast as some people would like but they still get there. Technically the only one not updating or offering support at the moment is Razbam which hopefully will be resolved one day soon.

When we get the patches and major updates there's always quite a bit in there in the way of fixes and added features. Yes there has been some issues with the last few breaking things but they have sorted some of the issues, it's pretty hard to get a good balance with hundreds, if not thousands of differently configured PC's, not to mention third party mods.

13 hours ago, Mizzy said:

It's newcomers (or at least to this forum) to DCS that have your opinion. You joined in 2023, I joined in 2005. Your views are based on recent events and not DCS as a whole. DCS has been around for over 20 years and even longer if you look back at the history of the product. Yes, many of us do support the platform and for good reason, it's been developed from a philanthropist origin that no other 'commercial' product is comparable, other than BMS.

I'm fairly new to the forums but started at the beginning when it was Lock On: Modern Air Combat, then on to Lock On: Flaming Cliffs so like you watched it progress into what it is now over the past 20 years. I got Lock On around at the end of 2003, maybe early 2004 just after it was released and still got the original CD boxed up in the garage with a load of other CD's and DVD's

I started with DCS with the A-10C Warthog and original Blackshark, the A-10C is still pretty good and I still fly it, the original Blackshark has progressed a lot since the original.

Edited September 6, 2024 by TKhaos
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[Oban]

7 hours ago, TKhaos said:

You make it sound like ED take your money and run and just abandon everything which is far from the truth. ED and the other developers still provide updates, support and the game itself is constantly being updated. There has been some issues with things like the Hawk but in general updates/support are pretty good, maybe not as fast as some people would like but they still get there. Technically the only one not updating or offering support at the moment is Razbam which hopefully will be resolved one day soon.

When we get the patches and major updates there's always quite a bit in there in the way or fixes and added features. Yes there has been some issues with the last few breaking things but they have sorted some of the issues, it's pretty hard to get a good balance with hundreds, if not thousands of differently configured PC's, not to mention third party mods.

I'm fairly new to the forums but started at the beginning when it was Lock On: Modern Air Combat, then on to Lock On: Flaming Cliffs so like you watched it progress into what it is now over the past 20 years. I got Lock On around at the end of 2003, early just after it was released and still got the original CD boxed up in the garage with a load of other CD's and DVD's

I started with DCS with the A-10C Warthog and original Blackshark, the A-10C is still pretty good and I still fly it, the original Blackshark has progressed a lot since the original.

Bro, as always your posts are on point, but the haters here are always going to hate, and I'm sure you've realised who those people are by now

[draconus]

17 minutes ago, Oban said:

Bro, as always your posts are on point, but the haters here are always going to hate, and I'm sure you've realised who those people are by now

They're part of nature and much needed in society - if everyone is happy there's no incentive for changes. Same like rants can show how much people actually care

[Beirut]

53 minutes ago, draconus said:

They're part of nature and much needed in society - if everyone is happy there's no incentive for changes. Same like rants can show how much people actually care

 

A good rant is its own reward. 

[erniedaoage]

And there is still a difference when people rant and complain about a topic, or start throwing stones without enough background information and evidence. The haters are usually the ones throwing the stones and complaining if they return like a boomerang. Honestly Razbam did a lot of questionable moves since they became a 3rd party. I own 3 of their modules and i am not happy with any of them, because ffb is non existent in their modules. So i haven't bought anything from them and won't buy anything in the future. Doesn't  matter to me which module those party announces. And believe me i want that mig-23 really bad, but i am not making such a mistake again. I bet the list of modules Razbam announced to bring to DCS is longer than the planned modules of every other 3rd party together. 

But honestly i hope it takes a good end, since a lot of people without ffb sticks can still enjoy their modules. But i won't get another hangar corpse. 

[Beirut]

11 minutes ago, erniedaoage said:

Honestly Razbam did a lot of questionable moves since they became a 3rd party.

 

There is a good argument for that.

 

11 minutes ago, erniedaoage said:

I own 3 of their modules and i am not happy with any of them, because ffb is non existent in their modules.

 

I have the F-15E, the Harrier, and the SA map and I think they are all great. This situation sucks, that's for sure, but RB's PR has always been DOA.

[Mizzy]

12 hours ago, Davee said:

Haven't heard bobos since last in England in the 60's. You have to be a Brit? 

Indeed I am from GB and an old one, hence the old saying. 

10 hours ago, TKhaos said:

I'm fairly new to the forums but started at the beginning when it was Lock On: Modern Air Combat, then on to Lock On: Flaming Cliffs so like you watched it progress into what it is now over the past 20 years. I got Lock On around at the end of 2003, early just after it was released and still got the original CD boxed up in the garage with a load of other CD's and DVD's

I started with DCS with the A-10C Warthog and original Blackshark, the A-10C is still pretty good and I still fly it, the original Blackshark has progressed a lot since the original.

Yes, I didn't really phrase that well, what I meant was new to DCS and this forum.

Mizzy

[TKhaos]

3 hours ago, Oban said:

Bro, as always your posts are on point, but the haters here are always going to hate, and I'm sure you've realised who those people are by now

Yeah I've worked out a few who are basically just trolls

There's nothing wrong with complaints or the occasional rant if it's factual and relevant. It's when it's constant and using false or partial facts that are twisted to direct people in a certain direction that I have issues with.

[Von Rondstadd]

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[MAXsenna]

What is this? What do you suggest this adds to the discussion? ROTFL

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[NineLine]

8 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

What is this? What do you suggest this adds to the discussion? ROTFL

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Drama, we don't have enough of it yet

[MAXsenna]

Drama, we don't have enough of it yet

That's obvious! TGIF

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[Esac_mirmidon]

On lack of communication, drama is the queen.

[Mike Force Team]

Confusing YouTube video. The video tells me nothing new. 

@NineLine I agree. The video seems pointless. 

Edited September 6, 2024 by Mike Force Team

[Schhultzyyy]

18 minutes ago, Mike Force Team said:

Confusing YouTube video. The video tells me nothing new. 

@NineLine I agree. The video seems pointless. 

 

Confusing in what way? The title quite plainly states the theme of the video; "How Much Time Do We Have?". I fear it can't be much clearer 

[Nightdare]

6 minutes ago, Schhultzyyy said:

Confusing in what way? The title quite plainly states the theme of the video; "How Much Time Do We Have?". I fear it can't be much clearer 

 

Well,... how much time do we have then? You watched it, so I'm sure you have the answer

 

 

 

[Schhultzyyy]

10 minutes ago, Nightdare said:

 

Well,... how much time do we have then? You watched it, so I'm sure you have the answer

 

 

 

I genuinely struggle to understand how the artistic intent behind this is being lost

[Mizzy]

1 hour ago, Schhultzyyy said:

Confusing in what way? The title quite plainly states the theme of the video; "How Much Time Do We Have?". I fear it can't be much clearer 

Joined in June and made two posts on the same thread, what do you fear?

Mizzy

[Nightdare]

45 minutes ago, Vortexstate said:

How is posting a video of you doing your "final flight" in an unsupported module drama? I feel like you're making it turn into that. I will admit that posting it here was a bit odd.

 

"Final Flight"/"Unsupported Module" very good choice of words to really show the 'end' of it all

Sorry, bud, but those 2 are dripping with drama at a definitive level, I've last seen when Sarah Connor pushed the button in Terminator 2

 

45 minutes ago, Vortexstate said:

It's a video. There's no need for it to have reasoning behind it. Don't attack the creator 

You just attacked the creator by deeming his video as having no reasoning OR if it's BS and has no message it's not worth posting anyway

 

Take your pick

 

 

49 minutes ago, Schhultzyyy said:

I genuinely struggle to understand how the artistic intent behind this is being lost

 

"Artistic intent"? I'm sure the Academy awards are impressed

It's artistic at a somewhat tamer level of a whining baby throwing his toys out of the pram

[Mizzy]

7 minutes ago, Nightdare said:

"Artistic intent"? I'm sure the Academy awards are impressed

It's artistic at a somewhat tamer level of a whining baby throwing his toys out of the pram

[Oban]

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