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1 minute ago, PawlaczGMD said:

Imagine how much dev time this project will take away from much needed core improvements such as AI, dynamic campaign, VR performance, etc. 

Module building has nothing to do with core improvements, IA, VR, DC, etc.... has diferent teams.

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Posted
45 minutes ago, Oban said:

Don't buy it then... others will.

Definitely a "wait and see" situation, at least for me.  Who knows, Fat Amy might be a ton of fun but so many act like ED kicked their dog and keyed their car by announcing a module that no one has even seen yet.  I guess some people aren't happy unless they're complaining about something.

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Where I can fly a sensor fusion blasted beast like the F35 if not in DCS? VTOL VR? That's nice, but I have a simpit. I like the haptics. And I want to fly with my friends with their DCS Modules.  Even if it's not exactly like the real one.

Now im watching all the other planes where other stuff also isn't really simulated? EW? Correct IFF ?(The JF17, yeah), Data Cardridges?, PreConfigured Profiles in my F16? RCS Simulation?

DCS Is not that accurate many here stating it is. You can play it real, for sure. But you not have to. 

If this thing is bringing some cash for ED, it's welcome. And for all that 3-4th Gen "That's how a plane have to look like" - Dudes, im pretty sure it can get locked out from the Cold War Servers. 

But I missed my Strike Eagle in the Video. Don't like the idea of losing it.

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2 minutes ago, Akula Siron said:

Where I can fly a sensor fusion blasted beast like the F35 if not in DCS? VTOL VR? That's nice, but I have a simpit. I like the haptics. And I want to fly with my friends with their DCS Modules.  Even if it's not exactly like the real one.

Now im watching all the other planes where other stuff also isn't really simulated? EW? Correct IFF ?(The JF17, yeah), Data Cardridges?, PreConfigured Profiles in my F16? RCS Simulation?

DCS Is not that accurate many here stating it is. You can play it real, for sure. But you not have to. 

If this thing is bringing some cash for ED, it's welcome. And for all that 3-4th Gen "That's how a plane have to look like" - Dudes, im pretty sure it can get locked out from the Cold War Servers. 

But I missed my Strike Eagle in the Video. Don't like the idea of losing it.

If DCS isn't that accurate, then the documentation requirement of items like towed decoys is moot.  Yet we've been told for years that those early access features were held up by the need to be super accurate.  It seems like that's not the case and the element that determines which is at play is if ED wants to do the work or not.

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Also ED is running out of "commercially viable" aircrafts to model. F-15C and F-35A (possibly B & C) will keep this sim going. So will a Super Hornet if ED decides to go that route. As much as I love the Cold War jets, only a few of them has appeal enough for the mass market. I expect ED to make tons of sales on DLC's like airbases, highres areas etc. when the "world map" arrives. But until then, they need to keep the train rolling. Loosening up a bit on needed documentation is inevitable at some point.

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Modern fighters like an F-35 are designed to take as much as possible off the pilot's shoulders to reduce his workload. In terms of flying, this borders on boredom. Older models are far more interesting for me. I don't just have to fly into the vicinity and drop a JDAM or similar, I have to do something for success. 
Since the Eurofighter is already too modern for me, I probably won't buy the F-35.

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Schmidtfire said:

Also ED is running out of "commercially viable" aircrafts to model. F-15C and F-35A (possibly B & C) will keep this sim going. So will a Super Hornet if ED decides to go that route. As much as I love the Cold War jets, only a few of them has appeal enough for the mass market. I expect ED to make tons of sales on DLC's like airbases, highres areas etc. when the "world map" arrives. But until then, they need to keep the train rolling. Loosening up a bit on needed documentation is inevitable at some point.

Sadly you are probably correct. I suspect the hardcore crowd isn't enough to remain economically viable, and this probably wasn't they way the wanted to go, but had little choice to remain competitive against other games.

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Posted
1 hour ago, lonewwolf said:

I'm shocked, speechless... @Wags answered someone who asked for a possible FF F/A-18E/F Superhornet, he simply said "not possible not enough data"... and yet we'll get FF F-35A ? and possibly later, the B and C variants as well, an aircraft witch is still in active duty as the superhornet... so one could say "diimmed classified" !

Really, I would expect anything but a FF F-35A... Amazing ED, simply amazing!

Do you have this? I’m trying to figure out what’s the future of DCS right now. 

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I also fly the tomcat, the F86 and the phantom. Never mind Mi24, Mig21 and other stuff. Our little group is munching through all the interesting airplanes and we try different missions with different tactics. But why not the F35? I don't see any advantage by letting this thing out of the sim. 

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13 minutes ago, Schmidtfire said:

Also ED is running out of "commercially viable" aircrafts to model. F-15C and F-35A (possibly B & C) will keep this sim going. So will a Super Hornet if ED decides to go that route. As much as I love the Cold War jets, only a few of them has appeal enough for the mass market. I expect ED to make tons of sales on DLC's like airbases, highres areas etc. when the "world map" arrives. But until then, they need to keep the train rolling. Loosening up a bit on needed documentation is inevitable at some point.

They could've gone a slightly different way and thrown something up like a B-1B (which I think would fit the game quite well with the ability to make really bad days for people balanced with its vulnerability). My main issue with the F-35 is just feels horribly out of place/time with the other jets either in the game or in the works.  If the brief appearance of the F-117 in the video is indicative of something someone is actually working on then that would actually feel much more at home with what we have/will hopefully soon have.

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56 minutes ago, Arecibo said:

The F-35 cockpit has all the visual appeal of a truckstop ATM. 

 

agree, I'm more attracted by the F-104 paired with the Germany Map  🙂 

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hace 1 hora, PFT_Orph3us dijo:

Maybe the famous Mig-31 but from the movie FIREFOX. What would You say?

...and second more thing, very soon in DCS
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Posted (edited)
9 hours ago, Phantom12 said:

This should tell you something about the standard of guesswork that has been used in other modules thus far.....

Not really - current modules like Hornet, Viper, Apache etc. are in big part declassified, with manuals in public, hundreds of real life pilots verifying many things. They were too moden, but acceptably realistic.

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Honestly, for the time and resources ED would put into an F-35 (which would be at most a hypothetically full fidelity module given the highly classified nature of the aircraft for the coming decades), I feel they would better put their effort into a Gripen C or other aircraft which they can simulate with proper resources and not essentially something along the lines of brochures.... 

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Posted
2 hours ago, lonewwolf said:

I'm shocked, speechless... @Wags answered someone who asked for a possible FF F/A-18E/F Superhornet, he simply said "not possible not enough data"... and yet we'll get FF F-35A ? and possibly later, the B and C variants as well, an aircraft witch is still in active duty as the superhornet... so one could say "diimmed classified" !

Really, I would expect anything but a FF F-35A... Amazing ED, simply amazing!

No, that is not true. a Superhornet, these days, is very possible. Data on them is not an issue. Thanks. 

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How do we know ED haven’t been asked to get involved with creating a procedural sim like they did with the A-10? They have contacts at Lockheed Martin I think?

They may have more access to information than they are allowed to divulge at the present time.

 

 

 

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29 minutes ago, ThePLAYGUE said:

Honestly, for the time and resources ED would put into an F-35 (which would be at most a hypothetically full fidelity module given the highly classified nature of the aircraft for the coming decades), I feel they would better put their effort into a Gripen C or other aircraft which they can simulate with proper resources and not essentially something along the lines of brochures.... 

You are assuming there is enough info on the Gripen, have you done research on either? 

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there is no way you can get a full fidelity full disclosure document as a civilian for F35 unless you are ready for go to jail. so like it or not. this is the best we can get .

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1 minute ago, mxgunshot said:

there is no way you can get a full fidelity full disclosure document as a civilian for F35 unless you are ready for go to jail. so like it or not. this is the best we can get .

At that point, it's no better than a random mod maker.  Will be equally accurate.

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