released to early access Cold War Germany discussion

[Rick Mave]

According to BN, Ugra Media is working on the Germany map teased in the 2025 and beyond video, so I am very excited to get to know more. Syria has been one of my favourite maps and I am sure that you guys are going to do a great job!

[RVT2403]

Thank god, it's Ugra!

[flanker1]

vor 1 Minute schrieb Schlingel mit Kringel:

Thank god, it's Ugra!

Where is this info from? Confirmed?

[Cunctator]

Bignewy said so in the Discord chat.

[Reflected]

It would also be nice to know the area covered.

[Furia]

From Berlin to Fulda is more than 400 Km so this should be quite a large map and considering the very dense populated areas and the huge ammount of infrastructure, I am very happy that Ugra is the developer doing this project. Would be nice to have an specific forum section for this terrain.

[TheFreshPrince]

Berlin looked pretty good in the video, nice work so far 

[Cunctator]

My guess would be that Berlin is in the north eastern part of the map, Fulda close to the center and the Frankfurt / Rhein-Main area in the south. In the west all the way to the to French and Belgian border to include the concentration of NATO airbases around the Eifel region. 

[Silver_Dragon]

My guess would be that Berlin is in the north eastern part of the map, Fulda close to the center and the Frankfurt / Rhein-Main area in the south. In the west all the way to the to French and Belgian border to include the concentration of NATO airbases around the Eifel region. 

From other post

This expands at least to north of Hamburg (Ratzeburg seems to bee identified) and Koblenz, Rhine Area (Mendig Airfield was identified)

I think, only missing danube front zone.

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[MAXsenna]

@BIGNEWY could you grant OP's wish?

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[Falconeer]

If only they included Dutch airbases, i'm sold!

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

1 hour ago, Falconeer said:

If only they included Dutch airbases, i'm sold!

Indeed, as they were quite important in that era. If I remember correctly, it was a Dutch AFB the F-15Cs who intercepted the pilot-less MiG-23 took off from, that eventually ended up crashing in Belgium.

[rcjonessnp175]

Looks like an awesome map and modern, excited to fly helis on it 

[BIGNEWY]

As soon as Ugra Media is ready for a forum section we will add it. 

thank you 

[Rongor]

58 minutes ago, rcjonessnp175 said:

 

 

 

 

I know we probably shouldn't expect the level of accuracy but the roads in these 2 pics actually aren't so narrow. In real life these are really grand boulevards with up to 4 lanes per direction and 6 around the Siegessäule roundabout.

[MAXsenna]

2 minutes ago, Rongor said:

I know we probably shouldn't expect the level of accuracy but the roads in these 2 pics actually aren't so narrow. In real life these are really grand boulevards with up to 4 lanes per direction and 6 around the Siegessäule roundabout.

What's the age gap between the map  and your modern pictures? 

[Rongor]

1 hour ago, rcjonessnp175 said:

 

 

 

 

These civilian airliners seem to represent Lufthansa colors.

This would be historically inaccurate, as Lufthansa and any German airline wasn't allowed to service West-Berlin during the cold war. Only in October 1990 after reunification Lufthansa could commence to fly to West-Berlin, yet flew to Tegel, not Tempelhof.
 

Edited January 17 by Rongor

[Rongor]

8 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

What's the age gap between the map  and your modern pictures? 

Doesn't matter as I've lived in Berlin during Cold War times already and the width of these roads didn't change. The segment shown between Siegessäule and Brandenburger Tor has been this wide since before WW2 as it had been part of the Ost-West-Achse in the infamous Germania layout.

You will find cold war pics showing the same width, I only chose recent pics because they are much easier to find.

Edited January 17 by Rongor

[MAXsenna]

Doesn't matter as I've lived in Berlin during Cold War times already and the width of these roads didn't change. The segment shown between Siegessäule and Brandenburger Tor has been this wide since before WW2 as it had been part of the Ost-West-Achse in the infamous Germania layout.

You will find cold war pics showing the same width, I only chose recent pics because they are much easier to find.

Cool! Not into an argument, was just curious because someone else here claimed it was an 80s map due to the narrow road.

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[Rongor]

1 minute ago, MAXsenna said:

Cool! Not into an argument, was just curious because someone else here claimed it was an 80s map due to the narrow road.

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All good fellow pilot, as a Berliner, I'm happy to help. Imagine my excitement about this map coming, great times!

[rcjonessnp175]

16 minutes ago, Rongor said:

These civilian airliners seem to represent Lufthansa colors.

This would be historically inaccurate, as Lufthansa and any German airline wasn't allowed to service West-Berlin during the cold war. Only in October 1990 after reunification Lufthansa could commence to fly to West-Berlin, yet flew to Tegel, not Tempelhof.
 

cool do we know exact date map is supposed to represent?

Was stationed in Germany twice and definitely have been around berlin and many other i think cooler places.  Will be great to see it come alive in dcs. 

Edited January 17 by rcjonessnp175

[MAXsenna]

15 minutes ago, Rongor said:

Imagine my excitement about this map coming,

Can imagine!  

[Rongor]

15 minutes ago, rcjonessnp175 said:

cool do we know exact date map is supposed to represent?

unfortunately not yet, hard to narrow it down

Judging by this still image from the video, we can expect an 80s version.
This Terminal at then Berlin-Schönefeld airport (east German) had been opened in 1976 I think, so the possible time frame is from 1976 to 1989

 

[Slippa]

I’m Sqn Ldr Propsalot most of the time. If our dreams are realised we could be flying or escorting Lancs over Germany.

Will there be a 40s version? Silly question probably, it’d be criminal to release a map of Germany and leave our props behind. Wouldn’t it. 

Great news anyhow .

[Art-J]

Airliners on Tempelhof don't mean much, but that huge Marx-Engels-Lenin billboard seen on one of the buildings doesn't suggest timeframe beyond 1989. These two tenement houses on Alexanderplatz opposite of Rotes Rathaus aren't there today either (albeit I've no idea when they were demolished). 

So 1980's it might be indeed. 

Edited January 17 by Art-J