DCS: Cold War Germany - preview

[zsoltfireman]

4 minutes ago, draconus said:

2025

[MAXsenna]

Stunning all-round.
 
One small thing though:
In the Hamburg vid there's some odd clipping of the container cranes that have their arms up at about 10-12 seconds in (the ones down are ok).
At about 80 degrees to the aircraft, they just disappear...

Noticed that too!

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[Hiob]

17 hours ago, ThorBrasil said:

I am impressed with the quality of this map. I am really concerned about the quality of the Afghanistan and Iraq maps. Ugra is becoming the Heatblur of maps.

Always was..... (imho). Syria tops all other current maps by far.

[MAESTR0]

Hi fighters!
Today we are going to Hamburg — the second-largest city in Germany, is one of the largest port cities in Europe, located at the mouth of the Elbe River into the North Sea. 

The Heinrich Hertz Tower (German: Heinrich-Hertz-Turm) is a landmark radio telecommunication tower in the city of Hamburg. Its height is 279.2 meters and it is the tallest building in the city. Heinrich Hertz is a native of Hamburg, who made an important contribution to the development of electrodynamics / Yes, the unit is named after him - Hz.
 

St. Michael's Church is one of the most significant architectural structures in Northern Germany, which is the "calling card" of the city (132-meter baroque tower)

Hamburg City Hall (Hamburger Rathaus) is the seat of the local government (senate) and parliament of the city of Hamburg.

St. Nicholas Church (German: ehemalige Hauptkirche St. Nikolai - "former main church of St. Nicholas", also German: Mahnmal St. Nikolai - "Memorial of St. Nicholas") is a neo-Gothic church. The second tallest building in Hamburg (147.3 m) and one of the tallest churches in the world - ranks 5th.

Hamburg Airport (ICAO: EDDH / IATA: HAM) - everything about this city reminds me of food )
The airport opened in January 1911, making it the oldest international airport in the world that is still in operation.

And now we'll move to  East Germany  The capitalists will be watching this place, finishing their  and looking for communist blips on their radars, and the communists will be watching the capitalists. One mistake and in a moment a group of MiGs will be in the air.

Garz (The callsign was GESETZ)
Airfield of the East German Air Force. It was used for the temporary deployment of wings with construction measures at the home airfields. It was also used by the East German Interflug airlines as "Heringsdorf" A beautiful takeoff/landing over the sea is guaranteed.

 

 

 

 

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

[Beirut]

Looks fantastic! 

 

The only issue will be what to fly first after loading it up. 

[sirrah]

Yup, Matthew may now officially be used in this thread:

[MiGCap1]

Hamburg in the 1980s ... before the big train stations were built ... like Dammtor at the base of the TV tower ...   

The tour through the city looks really great!   But the train stuff could be a little bit improved in future updates. Trains and their lines and stations were and are always infrastructure targets and - also very important - the big stations are recognizable landmarks for setting up initial points for air strikes.

Don't get me wrong, the town is impressive.

Thank You and Your team for this great work, @MAESTR0!

 

Edited April 4 by MiGCap1

[corbu1]

What are you doing with me? The map looks so beautiful!

I want it! I want it! I need it!

[WolfCat]

Incredible amount of details, how do you do that?
I'm not a preorder person, but this makes me think i should...

I would also like to see some mountains and rocks and hills. Please?

[cfrag]

2 hours ago, MiGCap1 said:

Hamburg in the 1980s ... before the big train stations were built

Tbh, Altona, Dammtor and Holstenstrasse along with Hauptbahnhof where big stations with vaulted, rounded roofs: they were built for steam locomotives, as the rails north of Hamburg weren’t electrified until the late 60’s. I remember standing awestruck (and a little frightened) when my grandmother took me to Altona station to pick up me grandpa, and I stood in front of this hissing, ticking machine. Then I knew what a dragon would look like. 

So, no Köhlbrandbrücke, no classic train stations. But the Michel, Rathaus and Nikolai-Kirche look jawdroppingly good, even though theMönkebergstrasse looks a bit timid, and Binnen- and Aussenalster look positively strange. I’m really looking forward to the full product. Wondering if the Dom (free place) and Bunker will make into the map.

Edited April 4 by cfrag

[Bremspropeller]

37 minutes ago, WolfCat said:

I would also like to see some mountains and rocks and hills. Please?

Maybe @MAESTR0 could show Pferdsfeld AB next time?

 

Supposedly the most scenic airfield of the Luftwaffe - Sabres(JG 73, JaboG 42), G.91Rs (LeKG 42) and F-4Fs (JaboG 35) were based there. Same unit-heritage.

JaboG 35 was later re-re-renamed JG 73, moved to Laage (fmr East Germany) and joined up with the MiG-29s.

This is a TV documentary about the 1977 TACEVAL at Pferdsfeld (JaboG 35).

Spoiler

 

 

[waterman]

On 4/5/2025 at 6:15 AM, cfrag said:

Tbh, Altona, Dammtor and Holstenstrasse along with Hauptbahnhof where big stations with vaulted, rounded roofs: they were built for steam locomotives, as the rails north of Hamburg weren’t electrified until the late 60’s. I remember standing awestruck (and a little frightened) when my grandmother took me to Altona station to pick up me grandpa, and I stood in front of this hissing, ticking machine. Then I knew what a dragon would look like. 

A lot of users have passionate memories of the Cold War Steam Trains.

Please ED you need to fix the arg8 so the wheels can rotate again.

Its a Real Shame to be limited and not use the broken ones on fantastic new maps like this.

Please update with a fix and let users have some fun again with the old ww2 class 86.

Its Very Sad as I have built exciting mods of german steam locomotives but have to use old Caucasus Map and the DCS old SingleThread Version to even use them.

Make it happen please -

 Since i wrote this there is now an update coming for the arg8 so a massive thankyou for that !

Edited April 15 by waterman

[Beirut]

2 hours ago, WolfCat said:

Incredible amount of details, how do you do that?
I'm not a preorder person, but this makes me think i should...

 

Ugra has a solid rep and I have no issue pre-ordering with them. They put out fantastic updates for the Syria map. They definitely have street cred. 

[TheBiggerBass]

vor 7 Stunden schrieb RVT2403:

I just can't wait to drop bombs on that

Your ex-wife lives there ? 

Edited April 5 by TheBiggerBass

[MiGCap1]

4 hours ago, waterman said:

A lot of users have passionate memories of the Cold War Steam Trains.

The last steam locos in West Germany were withdrawn 1972 ... From then only electric and diesel power, so that should be the way on this 1980s map.

More important are the correct buildings/stations (infrastructure) and routes (logistic tagets).

[waterman]

1 hour ago, MiGCap1 said:

The last steam locos in West Germany were withdrawn 1972 ... From then only electric and diesel power, so that should be the way on this 1980s map.

More important are the correct buildings/stations (infrastructure) and routes (logistic tagets).

Who cares if its 1970s or 1980s it would be same buildings anyway - if you like the steam trains just use them to add some interest.

After all for Me its about getting the " DCS Train wheels moving " and being able to enjoy the New Germany Map with the Steam Train mods i have already built.

Steam trains were used during the Cold war time period so that suits Me. 

Edited April 5 by waterman

[NRG-Vampire]

I am actually worrying about when we would get an authentic/normal looking map-object-glass-material for rendering (.REF models/packages) what is transparent but slightly shiny.(something similar to what .EDM models use)

I see that this glass-material is completely missing from the screenshots (and from the current map-object-3D-models on/of other maps),

such as the windshields of the vehicles, the windows of the hangars and control towers, for example.

[Woogey]

@Maestro  The static aircraft that you use in your scenery look very good. Even better than the civil aircraft mod that we’ve had available for many years. I hope you please consider adding these as a functional AI assets pack. Having these as an official part of the game would make for some very strong mission options for our campaigns.  
 

-Woog

[draconus]

5 hours ago, waterman said:

After all for Me its about getting the " DCS Train wheels moving "

Ugra can't fix it. You have to harass ED about it, and not here.

3 hours ago, NRG-Vampire said:

such as the windshields of the vehicles, the windows of the hangars and control towers, for example

Yes, this, but they shouldn't make ones for the buildings that are empty inside.

[grim_reaper68]

If you need beta tester, I'm in 

[flanker1]

@MAESTR0 once again incredible pictures, thank you very much. Since Redfor has always been underrepresented in DCS so far (and will probably remain so in the future) please post some screenshots of Damgarten Arfield when we are already in the north. The first MiG-29A of the 16th Air Army of the Soviet Union had been stationed outside the USSR. @MAESTR0 additional question: will Oranienburg Airfield not be on the map, on Wag's list s was not mentioned, although Phase 1 territory     

Edited April 5 by flanker1

[MiGCap1]

11 hours ago, waterman said:

Who cares if its 1970s or 1980s it would be same buildings anyway - if you like the steam trains just use them to add some interest.

You are right, I am with You completely. The 1950s/1960s were Cold War era, too, and all the nice VW microbuses racing through the streets of Hamburg were built from 1950 onwards. So they still fit if we fly the map with F-86s and F-100s and MiG-17s and MiG-19s and so on. 

[Duck21]

The Hamburg airport previews show it perfectly, again, there's just way too many dirt patches all around. This is supposed to be northern European grassland, not Siberian tundra! You continue to build all these nice looking airports but all of them with the wrong type of ground textures. It's just not what Germany looks like.

I don't want to be a pain in the butt, just thinking that when you build it all like this, in the end you'll say "sorry we can't change that now, too much work", and that would be a real shame.

[Flаnker]

9 часов назад, Woogey сказал:

@Maestro  The static aircraft that you use in your scenery look very good. Even better than the civil aircraft mod that we’ve had available for many years. I hope you please consider adding these as a functional AI assets pack. Having these as an official part of the game would make for some very strong mission options for our campaigns.  
 

-Woog

I would really like these planes to appear at least as static objects that you can place yourself in the mission editor.