DCS: MiG-29A Fulcrum FAQ

[YoYo]

5 hours ago, Romeo said:

Any word on the release date? Think there's a chance it'll drop tomorrow?

Edited June 30 by YoYo

[Mike Force Team]

Naaahhhh...Probably will be released at a later time.

[AeriaGloria]

2 hours ago, Mike Force Team said:

Naaahhhh...Probably will be released at a later time.

When Wags releases videos. It’s probably 2-4 weeks out

[MAXsenna]

When Wags releases videos. It’s probably 2-4 weeks out

And when it's available on Steam, the date is set, and will probably drop the next patch.

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[skywalker22]

12 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

@Ronin_Gaijin I have spoken to the team, we are planning the use of mobile RSBN beacons that can be placed on any terrain. 

thank you 

 

Wonderful news. I hope Mig-21 gets the same one day.

Btw, how about fixed stations, will they be in beacons.lua file, or something else (something like for Mig-21 in their own format)?

[Robo76]

I noted a question about the R-27 ER and R-27 ET missiles here, but it was not (intentionally ?) answered. These missiles could not be used on iz.9.12A. It was only possible on the 6 prototype MiG-29M iz.9.15 (Fulcrum E), the production MiG-29S iz.9.12S (Fulcrum A) and iz.9.13S (Fulcrum C) and some later types. Moreover, these missiles were not released for export until after the collapse of the USSR, so they could not even be delivered with the first iz.9.12A. So the ER/ET missiles will unrealistically be added for sales and advertising reasons to match the MiG-29S from FC3 ?

(Translated with DeepL.com)

Edited July 1 by Robo76

[AeriaGloria]

10 hours ago, Robo76 said:

I noted a question about the R-27 ER and R-27 ET missiles here, but it was not (intentionally ?) answered. These missiles could not be used on iz.9.12A. It was only possible on the 6 prototype MiG-29M iz.9.15 (Fulcrum E), the production MiG-29S iz.9.12S (Fulcrum A) and iz.9.13S (Fulcrum C) and some later types. Moreover, these missiles were not released for export until after the collapse of the USSR, so they could not even be delivered with the first iz.9.12A. So the ER/ET missiles will unrealistically be added for sales and advertising reasons to match the MiG-29S from FC3 ?

(Translated with DeepL.com)

I have it in a manual that a 1988 update BZPP-44 it seems added compatibility. But yes, of course no operators used it during the Cold War 

Edited July 2 by AeriaGloria

[draconus]

7 hours ago, Robo76 said:

So the ER/ET missiles will unrealistically be added for sales and advertising reasons to match the MiG-29S from FC3 ?

It will not match it without R-77 and jammer.

This thread is of interest to you:

[Robo76]

3 hours ago, draconus said:

It will not match it without R-77 and jammer.

This thread is of interest to you:

I went through the discussion and the prevailing opinion is that ER and ET on iz.9.12A are nonsense. And the developers' reaction is practically none. The R-27 ER and R-27 ET missiles were purely for use by the Russian military air force, and after the collapse of the USSR, their modified versions ER1 and ET1 were later released for export to friendly countries, which were certainly not better. When ED is useful, they always swear by the necessity of matching reality, and when it is necessary to conjure for better sales, realism goes aside, no matter what. If you are going to conjure, just make some advanced version of the MiG-29 and, just like with the F-16C, guess the rest. Nobody really believes you in your efforts to match real machines anyway.

[Hiob]

2 minutes ago, Robo76 said:

I went through the discussion and the prevailing opinion is that ER and ET on iz.9.12A are nonsense. And the developers' reaction is practically none. The R-27 ER and R-27 ET missiles were purely for use by the Russian military air force, and after the collapse of the USSR, their modified versions ER1 and ET1 were later released for export to friendly countries, which were certainly not better. When ED is useful, they always swear by the necessity of matching reality, and when it is necessary to conjure for better sales, realism goes aside, no matter what. If you are going to conjure, just make some advanced version of the MiG-29 and, just like with the F-16C, guess the rest. Nobody really believes you in your efforts to match real machines anyway.

Just relax and don't use them. Multiplayer-Servers, that feel dedicated to realism can choose to restrict the use....
I don't see exactly where the problem is, unless feeling miserable and making everybody else suffer along is the intend.

Just cheer up! 

[draconus]

7 minutes ago, Robo76 said:

The R-27 ER and R-27 ET missiles were purely for use by the Russian military air force

You're making a mistake and try to simulate history instead of the aircraft. If the aircraft is capable of it but never used the sim should allow it.

[Hiob]

1 minute ago, draconus said:

You're making a mistake and try to simulate history instead of the aircraft. If the aircraft is capable of it but never used the sim should allow it.

That's actually a brilliant take. 
Simulating History is up to the mission/server-creator.

[pjbunnyru]

18 минут назад, Robo76 сказал:

I went through the discussion and the prevailing opinion is that ER and ET on iz.9.12A are nonsense. And the developers' reaction is practically none. The R-27 ER and R-27 ET missiles were purely for use by the Russian military air force, and after the collapse of the USSR, their modified versions ER1 and ET1 were later released for export to friendly countries, which were certainly not better. When ED is useful, they always swear by the necessity of matching reality, and when it is necessary to conjure for better sales, realism goes aside, no matter what. If you are going to conjure, just make some advanced version of the MiG-29 and, just like with the F-16C, guess the rest. Nobody really believes you in your efforts to match real machines anyway.

did they tel u  aircraft number, what it will be indcs, year of construction, firmware of aircraft systems?
take it easy, u will be able to simulate anything, go to servers that suit u.

[Robo76]

46 minutes ago, Hiob said:

Just relax and don't use them. Multiplayer-Servers, that feel dedicated to realism can choose to restrict the use....
I don't see exactly where the problem is, unless feeling miserable and making everybody else suffer along is the intend.

Just cheer up! 

MP mission creators are already having a hard time balancing the options for both opposing sides. Servers for advanced players suffer the most, where lives are limited and unfair balancing will drive players from either side out and the server is dead. And advanced players are not very attracted to crowded beginner servers when endless waves of zombies start against you. In general, the future outlook for MP gaming is not good. And the arrival of the F-35 will make this situation even worse. I guess then there will be servers with F-35s on both sides and nothing else, because it will be impossible to send anything else against them. Calm down, it's just a game, we'll relax. No need to get upset, when ED gradually sends MP DSC to the bottom, they will go do something else.

[okopanja]

1 hour ago, Robo76 said:

I went through the discussion and the prevailing opinion is that ER and ET on iz.9.12A are nonsense. And the developers' reaction is practically none. The R-27 ER and R-27 ET missiles were purely for use by the Russian military air force, and after the collapse of the USSR, their modified versions ER1 and ET1 were later released for export to friendly countries, which were certainly not better. When ED is useful, they always swear by the necessity of matching reality, and when it is necessary to conjure for better sales, realism goes aside, no matter what. If you are going to conjure, just make some advanced version of the MiG-29 and, just like with the F-16C, guess the rest. Nobody really believes you in your efforts to match real machines anyway.

"Prevailing opinion" is not the same as having the manual pages, including exact software update that brought ER/ET to 9.12.

Off course you do not need to be worried in MP, pretty sure that server maintainers will give ER/ET to 29 only if the other side gets AIM-120B or better.

Edited July 2 by okopanja

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

22 minutes ago, okopanja said:

give ER/ET to 29 only if the other side gets AIM-120B or better

How are those systems even in the same league? 
R-27R is the equivalent of AIM-7E/F IMO, and -ER is the equivalent of AIM-7M/P.

[okopanja]

3 minutes ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

How are those systems even in the same league? 
R-27R is the equivalent of AIM-7E/F IMO, and -ER is the equivalent of AIM-7M/P.

I did not claim this, this is factual state on servers.

Bottom line: no point in arguing if it had E or not, eventually server owners decide what to arm to keep up with the balance.

[pjbunnyru]

37 минут назад, Raven (Elysian Angel) сказал:

How are those systems even in the same league? 
R-27R is the equivalent of AIM-7E/F IMO, and -ER is the equivalent of AIM-7M/P.

maybe not everyone can in 7m/p vs r27er/et
and u forget about best radars, rvr and other systems ofsame blue jets(15e/16/18).
thats balance on some servers.

[kotor633]

It's always amusing to see what people here can find annoying...and how they have to argue and discuss it for pages.

[BIGNEWY]

folks I have hidden the off topic and petty arguing. Please stay on topic here, which is our MiG-29A. 

All the info we have to share is in the first post and as soon as we are ready to share more we will. 

We are getting closer to release which is planned for summer. 

thank you 

[FoxAlfa]

16 hours ago, Robo76 said:

Manual for version 9.12? I thought we were talking about 9.12A.

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After adding AA Iglas on the Ka-50_3, which no one has ever seen there, I'm not even surprised anymore, ER/ET on the MiG-29 iz.9.12A.

Manuals data, pilot testimony, and we still get guys trying to prove it can't carry it...

[Flаnker]

I think ED implements the average version of MiG-29 9-12 (without specifying a specific version of modernization and software of the aircraft). Therefore, R-27ER/ET are allowed on this aircraft in the game.

[Ironhand]

7 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

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We are getting closer to release which is planned for a summer…

 

“A” summer? Not this one?

Sorry. Saw that and had to ask…

Edited July 3 by Ironhand

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

31 minutes ago, Ironhand said:

“A” summer? Not this one?

Indefinite "this" in reverse 

[Dudikoff]

1 hour ago, Ironhand said:

“A” summer? Not this one?

Sorry. Saw that and had to ask…

It also doesn't specify the hemisphere it refers to.