Other Game Engines

[upupandaway]

sorry guys, I know it has been posted, but as it seems not all users knew about it. I did not want to high jack another thread so I started a new one.

 

But even you looked in it, so it can't be that old and not beeing interesting at all. ;)

 

so pls never mind that I brought it up again.

 

cheers,

 

Demon

 

NP. Just made me smile. I don´t have to moderate anything or anyone around here. :)

[lanmancz]

 

Those hills, forests and mountains look amazing in the outerra. This is how I imagine "next-gen" engine - fractal generated environment look very realistic (duh:-)). :thumbup:

[SkateZilla]

 

Considering these guys have an awesome engine that does all that and looks fantastic, wouldn't it be time better spent if ED developed modules for Outerra (yes I mean with all the AFM etc) instead of making another graphics engine?

 

ED are good at making modules, but they have a 10yrs old graphics engine and they're struggling to develop a new one that doesn't seem like it's gonna look as good as outerra does, even in its alpha stage.

Considering outerra models the whole world (including underwater) and already has vehicle physics, and even first person and character animations well underway, it seems like a solid investment for dcs world and all it wants to be (land, sea, air).

 

Any thoughts?

 

Outerra Development Started in 2008

EDGE (AFAIK) Started in 2011 after A-10C Was finished.

So what was that about Struggling to get the engine finished?

 

What's more cost efficient?,

Developing your own engine to the specs that you need, and having the ability to expand it yourself as you need to.

Or Using someone else's engine and have to use work arounds to bypass problems, and wait for them to upgrade their engine or add features you want to add.

 

Outerra's Zero Level Terrain Accuracy is about as accurate as 1994 Sim Terrains, the inaccuracies are hidden behind pretty graphics for grass, trees and beaches.

 

There's no Scenery Objects, Buildings, Structures etc in Outerra, so even if they did license the engine, they would have to convert all 3d Assets to their GFX Engine Container format, Considering they are still replacing old LOMAC Models, having to stop and go back and re-tune everything for a new container format (Textures/Materials/Animations etc) would not be cost effective.

[Darkwolf]

I have included a fanboy section in my first post (maybe i should write it in bold), you should read point n.2

 

 

I think I did not made it clear.

 

Outerra engine process bulk data into a 3d world. The limitation of that technology is the fact that you have anyway to place 3D objects manually thru additionnal sceneries.

 

So by the end of the day you have two options :

 

Bulk data -> engine -> 3d world about whatever the engine can do with bulk data

Bulk data -> human developper -> 3D world. More time consuming, more accurate, detailled and living world.

 

Simple fact is the amount of scenery done for FSX, while FSX can render the entire world, its innacuracy, despite wide range of tree/houses/random 3d model, can't make the place believable. That is due to the procedural rendering engine vs prebuilt scenery engine (or whatever they call it in english).

[phant]

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[Rikus]

Outerra Cloud

 

Outerra Cloud

 

 

O_o

[Esac_mirmidon]

For me it seems that the earth, the plane and the clouds are totally disconnected one from each others. The clouds are awesome but it seems a movie screen in the background, not the sky over the terrain, and the plane seems also a static solid in the middle of nowhere.

[cichlidfan]

For me it seems that the earth, the plane and the clouds are totally disconnected one from each others. The clouds are awesome but it seems a movie screen in the background, not the sky over the terrain, and the plane seems also a static solid in the middle of nowhere.

 

Each part looks good by itself, but taken together there is just something 'not right'.

[GeorgeLKMT]

Each part looks good by itself, but taken together there is just something 'not right'.

 

That usually happens when you combine a game footage with the real one ;) I think that first shot is kinda OK, the rest looks just weird.

[remon]

Yup, fake. Or if not fake, bad. Or the guy posting the video didn't mean to fool people, just to show how the game could be with these clouds.

 

There are no clouds near the plane. And the clouds from the first scene appear to be superimposed over the sky, which is why some parts of them are missing.

Edited April 21, 2014 by remon

[KaspeR32]

http://sim.unigine.com/news/press-releases/131220-unigine-bell-206/

[Witchking]

Omg... those trees in uniengine look great. I think dcs needs trees at real scale compared to aircraft.

[KaspeR32]

http://sim.unigine.com/platform/built_for_simulation/

 

http://sim.unigine.com/platform/visual_fidelity/

 

I would so love for a company that develops for Consumer PC market picks this engine up and gives us a flight sim. Maybe Combat Helo will use it.

[Bourrinopathe]

Really interesting engine.

 

These videos don't really show all the features and a high altitude rendering. But still: great details for an helicopter sim!

(and of course, 262x262km is smaller than DCS World)

 

If anyone manages to find a video featuring more of this list, please post a link:

Every flight simulator requires realistic visual model for the virtual atmosphere. UNIGINE Sim provides life-like skies featuring:

 

• Atmospheric light scattering based on Rayleigh and Mie models with support for physical parameters like turbidity, altitude, depolarization and more
  
• Dynamic time of day model
  
• The Earth curvature simulation
  
• Dynamic weather effects, including wind affecting objects, rain, lightning, and snow
  
• Night sky with the moon and correlated stars
  
• Volumetric 3D clouds with shadows
  

Edited April 28, 2014 by Bourrinopathe

[hypersonik]

SOOOoooooo.... Cryengine 3 in steam for $9 /Month and no longer keep 20% of yur revenue .. any thoughts :)

 

YES ITS THE COMMERCIAL ONE. go read :P

[sobek]

any thoughts

 

Pretty sure there's a catch to it. :)

[karambiatos]

SOOOoooooo.... Cryengine 3 in steam for $9 /Month and no longer keep 20% of yur revenue .. any thoughts :)

 

YES ITS THE COMMERCIAL ONE. go read :P

still no source code :(

 

i guess a smart thing to do is use the free one, and switch to the commercial one, once the need arises.

[hypersonik]

Pretty sure there's a catch to it. :)

 

Yea the audio engine xD

[CTR]

New Trees in Outerra

 

[-Demon-]

That looks awsome...but I think it is not enuff just to have the enviromental engine. Thats just one part. The other part is the system engine which you need for believabel weapons and flightmodel.

 

Never the less I love the outerra engine and I have played with it quite some time. Would be nice to have DCS on top of that graficsengine.

 

just my 2 ct's

 

Cheers

 

Demon

[Phantom88]

I Haven't seen this Unigine Bell 206 Sim demo posted in this thread,but I think it's worth it

[Witchking]

I don't know if it's becos of an off camera video, but that blue color of the ocean is spot on...dead real. The haze also looks perfect.

[WRAITH]

UNIGINE and UNITY 3D GFX Engines are Kool

 

I don't know if it's becos of an off camera video, but that blue color of the ocean is spot on...dead real. The haze also looks perfect.

 

Its UNIGINE 3D Engine at work there according to Youtube Comments

 

Web links........... http://unigine.com/news/

 

Another UNIGINE Video

 

I also like UNITY 3D Engine............ http://unity3d.com/

 

There has been good ground breaking GFX in terrain making for flight sims what the future holds any ones bet

 

Cheers

 

:drunk:

Edited July 24, 2014 by WRAITH

[cichlidfan]

Dayum!!