Oculus Rift and DCS World Discussion

[Chivas]

Ok I should have said "develop a product using a higher quality display" then.

 

A higher resolution display isn't the answer "YET". There is a reason that Oculus and Vive settled on a lower resolution displays for their first consumer versions. People already need a Nvidia 970 or higher just to drive those displays in VR.

 

I know that Samsung developed a custom VR display for the Rift, but no word yet on the type of display Vive is using, other than both developers are using displays with the same resolution. Oculus is also using custom hybrid optic lenses, that have normal and Fresnel properties, while Vive is using a Fresnel lens. That said users don't seem to be seeing much difference in the Vive and Rift displays/lens combinations other than some banding on the Vive Fresnel lens when looking at the sky.

 

Its very early days in VR, so anyone could develop the killer hardware., as there are still a lot of problems to solve. The more companies developing these units the better for us all. I never thought much of the StarVR hardware, with its huge 210* FOV, as I didn't think it would be possible to drive that many pixels at high frame rates. StarVR is now working with an eyetracking company, which could allow them to only render 5K where the eyes are focused in that large FOV. This type of tech could allow FOV's of almost any size.

[Chivas]

May need to wire a fan to my canopy open/close switch for WW2 birds.

 

:D

 

Perfect solution...I've thought of a fan for sometime, but didn't think of wiring it to the canopy button.

 

:thumbup:

[Shogun0]

Since I got my i5-6600k/980Ti system up and running... decided to jump on the pre-order wagon.

 

ETA is July. Damn.

[_Acoustic_]

Perfect solution...I've thought of a fan for sometime, but didn't think of wiring it to the canopy button.

 

:thumbup:

 

I have a few ideas about how to do this but let me know what you decide on, I think it is a must for the WW2 birds.

[Vladdo]

I like to fly with the canopy open, that way I can stick my head out and have a good look around, and there's seemingly no penalty for it?

[_Acoustic_]

Not sure about the penalty.

 

As far as a fan, I'm thinking of wiring the OFF to the canopy closed toggle and possibly the lowest setting to the open toggle since you wouldn't want the fan blowing full force just sitting there on the taxiway. Then maybe make a simple mechanism to trip the highest setting when throttling up.

[DerekSpeare]

The hurdles of virtual reality

 

A reader takes an overview of the challenges faced by Oculus Rift, Vive, and PlayStation VR – and the likelihood they’ll overcome them.

 

http://metro.co.uk/2016/01/24/the-hurdles-of-virtual-reality-readers-feature-5639859/

 

When a writer makes this statement (at the third paragraph, no less), It's difficult to keep reading:

"I’m yet to experience VR

, so to arrive at any conclusion at this stage defies logic

." (emphasis added)

So at least from what I read there, the writer has no relevant perspective other than speculation. There are three main issues with VR technology that should find attention:

 

1 - wider fields of view

2 - computing power to drive it at 90+ FPS all the time (judder free display rates)

3 - games optimized for VR use to ensure high frame rates

 

I'd expect that in time these issues will be resolved now that VR has become a relevant hardware segment.

Edited January 24, 2016 by DerekSpeare

[Chivas]

When a writer makes this statement (at the third paragraph, no less), It's difficult to keep reading:

"I’m yet to experience VR

, so to arrive at any conclusion at this stage defies logic

." (emphasis added)

So at least from what I read there, the writer has no relevant perspective other than speculation. There are three main issues with VR technology that should find attention:

 

1 - wider fields of view

2 - computing power to drive it at 90+ FPS all the time (judder free display rates)

3 - games optimized for VR use to ensure high frame rates

 

I'd expect that in time these issues will be resolved now that VR has become a relevant hardware segment.

 

I agree most of the writers concerns are unfounded, other than the cost of entry.

 

Your also right that VR has many other problems to solve, that the writer didn't mention. Although the FOV problem looks to have a decent solution with eye tracking, and only rendering 5K plus where the eyes are focused. This solution could allow all the FOV necessary in future versions of VR hardware.

 

I also have concerns that early VR content, like new flight sims will be dumbed down to hit the 90fps mark. The fact that DCS could be successfully implementing time warp to allow momentary drops in frame rates, and still allow smooth gameplay is very promising.

[lobo]

Oh, there are bigger problems...

 

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[=DECOY=]

Oh, there are bigger problems...

 

 

LOL Brilliant

[Kuky]

Oh, there are bigger problems...

 

 

:megalol:

 

This belongs in the Hilarious section :thumbup:

[andrewcoja]

Does anyone else have issues with the scale of the world? The scale of the plane itself is fine and looks life size. My problem is the world itself looks miniaturized. I'll be flying around and it feels like I'm six feet off the ground in a scale model of Vegas.

[Kuky]

Does anyone else have issues with the scale of the world? The scale of the plane itself is fine and looks life size. My problem is the world itself looks miniaturized. I'll be flying around and it feels like I'm six feet off the ground in a scale model of Vegas.

You are most likely too much zoomed out.

[Antidamage]

Hey guys. I'm absolutely new and google isn't helping me.

 

I have DCS world running with the oculus rift, but I put my tracking camera quite high up on the wall behind my screen to get better coverage. As a result DCS puts my head in the base of the seat.

 

I can't figure out what key is used to re-center the head tracking. Any ideas?

 

Second, I'm running the 1.5 open beta. Is it worth going to 2.0? What does it add?

 

Thanks! Even at ass-height the game looks amazing!

 

Edit: figured out that it's the numberpad 5 key.

 

So I have a an x55 I'd like to use but configuring it doesn't seem to do anything, for instance the throttle is still the the rudder trim on the stick and it ignores the actual throttle slider, even though I'd configured it. Are profiles always plane-specific?

 

Also, I have a LeapMotion and the VR mount. Any chance that DCS supports it?

Edited January 25, 2016 by Antidamage

[Vladdo]

For you to be able run DCS 2.0 you need to have purchased the Nevada map, as the Black Sea map doesn't currently work in it.

 

Profiles are plane specific. What you've probably got is a throttle that is assigned to 2 or more axis on seperate devices. You should only have one control configured per axis.

[Flamin_Squirrel]

Oculus Rifts $600 price point raises concerns for the virtual reality industry

 

http://www.kaleo.org/features/oculus-rifts-price-point-raises-concerns-for-the-virtual-reality/article_91fdac4e-c32a-11e5-8883-ef3673264927.html

 

 

While they do have a point, I'm not sure it's a good one (especially in the long term). I think it's the equivalent of the following: "I bought a $50 Bluray player; it's an outrage that I'll have to spend far more than that for a TV to watch them on!"

 

Maybe if they wrote good articles then they'd be able to afford VR :lol:

[DerekSpeare]

While they do have a point, I'm not sure it's a good one (especially in the long term). I think it's the equivalent of the following: "I bought a $50 Bluray player; it's an outrage that I'll have to spend far more than that for a TV to watch them on!"

 

Maybe if they wrote good articles then they'd be able to afford VR :lol:

 

Note to Mods: Pls remove this post for being too insightful and observant :P

[hansangb]

It's a specious argument. Any new technology costs money. Plasma, LCD, LaserDisc, Walkman, Blueray, OLED, IPad - you name it. Also, as long as I can remember, the computer that *I* wanted was $3K to $4K. *ALWAYS* w/o exception. When I had the Tandy 1000, Compaq 386 was $3500. Even today, with the cost of eMachines going for $400, the machine I have is more like $3K-$4K.

 

Will VR ever become a consumer oriented commodity item? Perhaps. But it won't be for a while because you need a gamer's rig to run it. And the people who build and maintain these rigs are the prime audience for today's VR. It's a niche product and it will carry a niche price tag.

 

Will it ever reach commodity status? I don't know. Maybe if the porn industry adopts it. And I'm not kidding about that. Only then, *maybe*.

[hansangb]

Yikes!

[andrewcoja]

You are most likely too much zoomed out.

 

Is there a way to zoom with the rift? I've tried setting zoom keys but they don't seem to do anything with the rift.

 

 

Hey guys. I'm absolutely new and google isn't helping me.

 

I have DCS world running with the oculus rift, but I put my tracking camera quite high up on the wall behind my screen to get better coverage. As a result DCS puts my head in the base of the seat.

 

I can't figure out what key is used to re-center the head tracking. Any ideas?

 

Go into the oculus config window and open the demo scene. Within the demo scene, click "recenter." This resets the default center for anything that uses it (which DCS does). This way you'll always be in the right place when you start up DCS.

[SkateZilla]

While they do have a point, I'm not sure it's a good one (especially in the long term). I think it's the equivalent of the following: "I bought a $50 Bluray player; it's an outrage that I'll have to spend far more than that for a TV to watch them on!"

 

Maybe if they wrote good articles then they'd be able to afford VR :lol:

 

My first BR player was 299, and useless when the standard and DRM was updated 18 months later.

 

Cost of new Tech, always high priced at first and will drop as tech developes.

[Glowing_Amraam]

Go into the oculus config window and open the demo scene. Within the demo scene, click "recenter." This resets the default center for anything that uses it (which DCS does). This way you'll always be in the right place when you start up DCS.

 

Or just press the #5 key on your numpad on the keyboard in-game.. :)

[hannibal]

i just tried "sonar" in the sundance selection in milkVR on gearVR..

awesome!

gives me a taste of moar VR cockpit eyecandy.. :D

(i havent tried oculus DCS, so im savoring any tidbits of cockpit VR)

[_Acoustic_]

Oculus Rift's price point compared to other new technologies with inflation.

 

http://fortune.com/2016/01/12/oculus-rift-pricing/

 

Still makes me scratch my head about the outrage. People spend more on phones.

[hansangb]

I think partially it's the "credit card bill isn't high because I'm only paying the minimum even though it'll take me 25 years to pay it off" mentality. The initial upfront cost is something a lot of people in the US are not used to - especially with carriers spreading the cost over two years.

 

But then again, Palmer kind of did it to himself with his comments about keeping the price point low. Two more months before my Rift arrives, can't wait!!