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Man it feels like years that we've been waiting for Grandsurf.......Gonna be well worth it!

 

Outstanding!

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Man it feels like years that we've been waiting for Grandsurf.......Gonna be well worth it!

 

Outstanding!

 

Yes, very nice :thumbup:

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Very nice work from Grandsurf, as always. I wouldn't hold my breath though. :)

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so lights in the FC3 or DCS:W going to be in the release?

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Yes looks great but I don't care as it won't be released.

 

I'm kinda tired of seing this WIP things which will never see light of day... it's like showing cakes to hungry kids... meh... pass

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Yes looks great but I don't care as it won't be released.

 

I'm kinda tired of seing this WIP things which will never see light of day... it's like showing cakes to hungry kids... meh... pass

 

Oh I don't know about that - we have now seen two more airbases revamped that have not been seen before so there is progress that has been made. That is, unless there exists a reason why this mod cannot be released that I somehow completely missed and that Grandsurf is not allowed to release the mod.

 

Is there?

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I agree! I hope I'm wrong but I don't have a lot of faith!

 

 

Guys, have you ever thought about that maybe the only reason is the still beta of FC3 and the short term 1.2.2, 1.2.3, 1.2.4 . . . . problem?

 

i do only assume, but also the auto updater functionality will not be very helpful releasing such a complex mod. . .

 

maybe grandsurf is trying to solve these issues.

 

and yes, Viper is absolutely right - there is a lot of progress in grandsurfs work. . . you can also find at facebook.

 

https://www.facebook.com/GrandSurf

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Yes looks great but I don't care as it won't be released.

 

I'm kinda tired of seing this WIP things which will never see light of day... it's like showing cakes to hungry kids... meh... pass

 

agreed but perhaps E.D. did not want to pay thousand dollars to Grandsurf for these modifactions however i believe it would worth it

maybe they think only a few customers want to see detailed ground objects because most players spend time in cockpit and they want new cockpits only

but i think only to E.D. can be affordable these improvements

none of players will be pay this high price and Grandsurf is not able to sell his product without E.D.

i think these improvements is worth some bugs but unfortunately Gransurf is not able to cellect a lot of some-bugs

and i guess i understand why Grandsurf's name is no more on ED parters list :cry:

 

http://forum.lockon.ru/showthread.php?p=1632156#post1632156

sad fact but i can repeat myself only :(

and sorry for my weak grammar

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Grandsurf is not able to sell his product without E.D.

 

Why does he need to sell? Can he not rely on donations or a kickstarter (or the like) fund where x amount of donations will get the mod released?

 

For that quality I have absolutely no qualms about donating - just need the link.

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Posted (edited)
Why does he need to sell? Can he not rely on donations or a kickstarter (or the like) fund where x amount of donations will get the mod released?

 

For that quality I have absolutely no qualms about donating - just need the link.

 

kickstarter or idiegogo is good idea i think. donations is not.

nobody wants to pay if he is able to get the stuff for free :( - iv heard about Combatace, Diveplane, Hungarojet and Beczl - not mentioned skin makers who made hard jobs too

we can download many crap 10 minute fictional skins but only a few hit the level. nice and authentic skins need weeks even from skillful artists i know

Beczl who made probably the most valuable improvements in the past - Combined Forces Mod, MiG-21 for FC1/FC2, other unit and weapon models - so he got nothing as donations under many years :mad:

 

and there are no copy protection for 3D models and other files such lua, fx, sup3, scn3, lsa3, district files

so they can sell and release their works only once. at one time. no more

without starforce protection Grandsurf will not release any mod or improvement i think

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I've been drooling over the Grandsurf stuff since, like, 2007. He released the LO Reloaded Airbase textures, but as far as I know nothing else. I would GLADLY pay him for his work, but based on the last six years' experience, I'm not sure any of this will see the light of day. Sadly.

 

I should say that I'm not trying to discourage GS. His work is clearly amazing, AND I WANT IT. So, Grandsurf: Keep up the good work, but please release something, bro!

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If Grandsurf reads this, he will finally see it's not just me that is nay-saying his work. It's been "making great progress" and "will be out soon" since 2007 guys.

 

It's never coming.

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If Grandsurf reads this, he will finally see it's not just me that is nay-saying his work. It's been "making great progress" and "will be out soon" since 2007 guys.

 

It's never coming.

 

Which would have been a valid argument if the SIM had not undergone drastic and radical changes every so often, which has only now plateau'd with the advent of DCS World. Difficult for a modder to stay ahead of the curve when all his work is deep-sixed with a new version every so often.

 

It's like all the third-party work: We all have at least a 3-4 year wait before the preliminary trainers start trickling in, if we're lucky.

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EDGE Who?, What EDGE?, lol..

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Posted (edited)
EDGE Who?, What EDGE?, lol..

 

we do not understand you Skate

no one metioned EDGE in this topic

till now

but EDGE is another sad and old story IMHO

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but EDGE is another sad and old story IMHO

 

Sad how? Not to go off topic, but EDGE is being worked on nearly every day. That's all that is known, that it is in fact being worked on. Nothing to show, since it's just code.

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Hello,

things seems to be more complicated since money entred the community :music_whistling:

I am a great fan of grandsurf work and now that i have a powerfull computer, i would jump on this eyescandy mod...

sorry about my ignorance, but what is edge's work you are refering to?

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Which would have been a valid argument if the SIM had not undergone drastic and radical changes every so often, which has only now plateau'd with the advent of DCS World. Difficult for a modder to stay ahead of the curve when all his work is deep-sixed with a new version every so often.

 

It's like all the third-party work: We all have at least a 3-4 year wait before the preliminary trainers start trickling in, if we're lucky.

 

that is exactly the point. . .

 

i am sure, a release will follow when DCSW is fixed and constant enough. . .

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