Second World War Era Aircraft Wish List

[Blaze]

B-25 all day every day. :)

[Angelthunder]

lol only that? :P

 

I'd be happy with a handful of a/c but a PROPER map. Western Europe would be perfect (which is what they're creating I understand). My main issue though is ensuring a/c are developed with the correct period in mind eg. you can't develop a P-51D and Spit XIV for the allies, and an ME-109E or 4 for the Axis and expect them to be able to battle on even terms.

 

From memory, you always had a rough match up in a/c between the Allies/Germans eg.

 

Spit I, II - BF109E/F

Spit V/IX, P51B/D, P47B/D - BF109G/K, FW190A2 (I think)

 

I'm more interested in the ground attack or anti shipping roles ie. Hawker Typhoon / Tempest, DeHavilland Mosquito, Bristol Beaufighter.

Well,since you brought it up.A-20 Havoc,A-26 Invader.:D

[Folgore1987]

I don't know if this has been asked before, I supposed someone already asked for it: the Mitsubishi A6M Zero.

 

Before I was never really interested in it.

But I've just read an article about the Allied pilots who tested it to learn it's strengths and weaknesses using a salvaged Zero that crashed near Dutch Harbor in 1942 and how different the plane was with better close maneuverability due to how light it was and how the wings and fuselage were built as one piece instead of separately, unlike the european and american method.

It took a while before the american forces could use equipment capable of fighting on equal terms with the Zero's and even so the kill ratio of the Zero was still always very impressive.

 

It's because of the differences that I believe it would make a very worthwhile addition to the roster, it's a very unique machine in comparison to what the rest of the world was doing.

 

But I guess it could be more difficult to find sources of information to produce a high-fidelity model of a japanese airplane.

[WinterH]

Although it is not the most dependable combat machine, I also am very interested in Zero.

 

There are some flying Zeros around, but only one of them apparently still have the original Mitsubish Sakae engine.

 

Also regarding the above post by Angelthunder, A-26 or A-20, or alternatively other twin engine attack planes like B-25, Ju-88 etc would indeed be pretty cool too.

[luckyfortune]

I don't know if this has been asked before, I supposed someone already asked for it: the Mitsubishi A6M Zero.

If they put in an A6M Zero, I would really, really hope that they would put in something like a flyable F4U Corsair or an F6F Hellcat in to fight with it, so that way we can have WWII Navy Battles! There's already America versus Bf109s and Fw190s, so having two more from the other side of the globe would be a fantastic choice.

[saburo_cz]

definitely we need some Japanese planes... :)

 

DCS A6M5

DCS J2M3

DCS Ki-84

will be enough for biginnig

[PitbullVicious]

I would marry and bear the children of the designer team that would model the Finnish version of B-239 with quality equal to the Mig21.

[Silver_Dragon]

The same modeller was make the Mig-15Bis cockpit, make a La-9 and Yak9 aircraft (and some others of ww2)

http://psy06.deviantart.com/gallery/

[9.JG27 DavidRed]

But I think as a smart business planning, ED should go Korea after completing WWII 44. There are several benefits with Korea theatre:

1. Small map size (compared to Russian front or pacific theatre)

2. Fewer aircraft types (honestly, you only need f86 and mig15 and we already have a good working F86. Air to air combats occurred very little to other types such as F80, F4F and p51 etc)

3. Probably easy access to accurate plane info and data. (come on, famous Mig15. There gotta be pages and pages of data out there for this jet)

4. Easiness to achieve completeness of this theatre and campaign (Korean war was shorter and smaller in scale compared to WWII.)

 

One disadavantage about Korean war theatre that I can think of is that the conflict was pretty dominated by infantry fighting on the ground. So far I haven't seen anything significant on putting infantry into DCS (well, no flight sim so far paid a lot of attention to modeling infantry anyway). But this concern is very minor.

 

Just my 2 cents.:thumbup:

 

nope!....yes they should also do korea theatre,...but definitely not abandon ww2.

[Solty]

I agree with David here. The more planes we will see in the future for the WW2 theme, the more following the game will have. People like different parts of WW2. Some like to indulge in the 1940 Battle of Britain, others like African front of 1941-43 etc.

 

So while Korea would be ok, the WW2 must remain. It would be foolish to abandon the WW2 project after only flyable 6 planes lol. Many other planes just for 1944 project would be amazing to see. Like:

Me410

Mosquito

Fw190A8

P-38J

Bf109G14

Hawker Tempest

 

And that is just 1944 and not even half of planes that were flying at that time.

 

I would strongly suggest for ED to make all the standard planes in one big package. So that they give people ability to buy planes for both sides at the same time with FC3ish pack of all standard WW2 planes. Thus expanding the playerbase.

 

What I see a lot is that people are discouraged not only by the price, but by the fact that they have to pay for each plane... some like to get one box of "yay".

 

PS. But they need to pick up the pace. The time that it takes to get those planes to work and go out of beta is very very long. While other games make many more plane models within months. I know they are not aiming for such high accuracy as DCS, but DCS still is lagging far behind with speed of development.

Edited February 22, 2015 by Solty

[9.JG27 DavidRed]

i think they stated that they still plan to sell it also as 1package once the initial 6planes+the map is released....i dont know...from what i hear from people, it seems its not the price of the modules themselves, but more the lack of environment the planes fly in which keeps them off buying dcs ww2 aircraft.

 

i just hope that not only more 3rd party devs jump on board and start to build ww2 aircraft+units+maps(because even if VEAO has a very promising dev list, they cant do it all on their own, at least in the timeframe i would like to see :) ),

but also, that ED themselves keep producing ww2 content after the current announced project...its still a dream, but i really hope that one day we will have a complete ww2 sim comparable to il2 1946 in dcs...it doesnt have to be hundreds of planes and hundreds of maps, but a few "complete" theatres where you really feel that its kind of a finished product with the outlook that everything is WIP and more content to come...

[Solty]

 

i just hope that not only more 3rd party devs jump on board and start to build ww2 aircraft+units+maps(because even if VEAO has a very promising dev list, they cant do it all on their own, at least in the timeframe i would like to see :) ),

but also, that ED themselves keep producing ww2 content after the current announced project...its still a dream, but i really hope that one day we will have a complete ww2 sim comparable to il2 1946 in dcs...it doesnt have to be hundreds of planes and hundreds of maps, but a few "complete" theatres where you really feel that its kind of a finished product with the outlook that everything is WIP and more content to come...

Exactly.

[WinterH]

Thankfully, neither theater nor aircraft development is exlcusive to ED anymore, so Korea and WW II shouldn't necessarily be mutually exclusive.

 

ED still has at the very least 2 WW II aircraft and one map to release, as well as VEAO which has multiple maps and aircraft planned ahead, and some of them already in development. While nothing is confirmed yet, I see Leatherneck also entering WWII area to be very likely. So I wouldn't think WW II is getting abandoned anytime soon.

 

On Korea we currently have two Belsimtek aircraft only, and a map is rumored (by ED?) but not confirmed. Still, some of the aircraft like Mustang, and perhaps a few of VEAO's modules could potentially be involved in Korea scenarios as well. I'm sure in time it will see some expansion as well. Thing with Korea is though, apart from MiG-15 and F-86, rest of the aircraft involved, at least most of them, have never achieved iconic status majority of WW II fighters did.

 

Edit : that almost sounded like I don't want to see more development in Korean War era, which isn't true :).

Edited February 22, 2015 by WinterH

[Charly_Owl]

I'd really like to see a Yak-3 or a La-5 (or La-7). These are very interesting machines.

[emg]

After the map+ground units, IMHO the largest need by far is flyable multi-engine attack planes/bombers, one for each side.

 

So people who like ground attack (there are many!) have a more hefty option than a single-seater. It's really needed for SP & MP campaigns/missions imho.

[Pandacat]

I didn't say we should abondan WWII. Like Winter said, Korea and WWII are not mutual exclusive. They can be developed side by side and Korea is a much smaller and easier project to do and finish. I just think Pacific theater is a potentially more profit project than Russian front:

 

1. In terms of creating maps, most Pacific theater is fought over vast ocean and islands. Those are much easier to model than cities, roads, forests and numerous other landscape features in Russian front

 

2. IL2 bos is already a very good sim. DCS Russian front would be nothing more than a direct head to head competition with it. You would be spending loads of money to fight for same pool of fans. I wouldn't have a second thought to own both DCS pacific and il 2 bos. But for DCS Russian front and Il2 Bos? I'll probablly think about it and pick one of the 2.

 

3. Sea battles and carrier ops will be more interesting than same old land battles

[SFC Tako]

About russian planes: Yak-9 FTW!

About maps: see Pandacat above :)

[Friedrich-4B]

After the map+ground units, IMHO the largest need by far is flyable multi-engine attack planes/bombers, one for each side.

 

So people who like ground attack (there are many!) have a more hefty option than a single-seater. It's really needed for SP & MP campaigns/missions imho.

 

How about Pe-2 or Tu-2 for Russia; Ju 88 or Hs 129 for Germany?

[Kurfürst]

Ju 88 or Hs 129 for Germany?

 

Would be nice, but... we always have those in eeeeevery sim, the Ju 88 at least.

 

Now, if we would have a Me 410 - a perfect counterpart to a Mosquito too, which I am sure sooner or later we will have - nobody did a 410 yet.

 

I'd guess the rear cocpit/ armament arrangement would be nightmarish to model though.

[9.JG27 DavidRed]

410 would be awesome!but question is whether there are enough docs, data available...

[Nirvi]

I'd love to fly a Dornier Do-17

[WinterH]

Not sure about Hs-129, but Pe-2, Ju-88, Me-110, A-26, A-20, some versions of B-25, fighter bomber Mossie versions would all be rather awesome to play around with. Yeah well, failing others, perhaps even Hs-129.

[Friedrich-4B]

410 would be awesome!but question is whether there are enough docs, data available...

 

AFAIK the Me 410 didn't fly over the eastern front in any numbers, apart from the odd recce version. However, the Hungarian built Me 210Ca-1s were used against the Russians

 

That said, an Me 410 would be a good choice; there were lots of armament variations, including the BK 5 50mm, MK 108s, MK 103s, WGr 21s, etc.

[Charly_Owl]

Speaking of interesting russian things...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIOpBVqUAAE

[uboats]

what about He-219? One of my favorite