Complainng because I do not have the minimum amount of RAM

[Focha]

Hello,

 

Will the next update at least optimize the memory usage better?

 

The sim is getting close to being unusable.

 

I mainly have stutters regarding building textures. Takes lots of time to load, in game. For example moving the head in game. Also mainly with Mi8. But this happens with Su25 for example.

 

My opinion and advice, is that the memory usage/pre load should be optimized. Clearly something is wrong with that.

 

Can we have a word on this issue for the next update?

 

Regards.

[Nate--IRL--]

Memory usage is becoming more demanding as texture sizes have increased, for the newer models - 4gb is cutting it pretty close for DCS these days.

 

Minimum Memory requirement is 6gb

 

Minimum system requirements: OS 64-bit Windows Vista, 7 or 8; CPU: Core 2 Duo 2.0 GHz; RAM: 6 GB; Free hard disk space: 10 GB; Video: 512 MB RAM card, DirectX 9.0c - compatible; Sound: DirectX 9.0c - compatible; requires internet activation.

 

Nate

[blackbelter]

Hello,

 

Will the next update at least optimize the memory usage better?

 

The sim is getting close to being unusable.

 

I mainly have stutters regarding building textures. Takes lots of time to load, in game. For example moving the head in game. Also mainly with Mi8. But this happens with Su25 for example.

 

My opinion and advice, is that the memory usage/pre load should be optimized. Clearly something is wrong with that.

 

Can we have a word on this issue for the next update?

 

Regards.

 

+1 for this, but I guess we have to live with it, at least for now...

 

After adding another 8G of ram to my desktop (totaling 16G), I can load all the mods that I wanted, and so far I have not had a single random crash, which happened quite often before. Checking the resource monitor while running DCS, the occupied plus standing-by memory easily reaches ~8G.

[Focha]

Ok, I understand that. Honestly I don't see much significant difference between now and when A10C was released. And I didn't have half the performance problems I have now. Online for me is a no go, unfortunately, although I made many sorties with A10C, without any significant performance problems.

I understand that as software advance, so does the hardware do to take advantage of it, but developer has to take in mind to have different option for different PC hardware.

What I am trying to say is that for the same settings I have lots of performance issues, so probably there are things that have to be tweaked. Just my two cents.

Regards and thanks for the replies, unfortunately I don't have money for upgrading, but the say is, "if you don't have money, shouldn't have addictions".

[jimcarrel]

I feel for ya Focha, I been there done that. Really tho, the 512 MB card is really taking you down.

[Lao Fei Mao]

After tasted the 1.2.7 beta, there is obviously FPS increase if comparing with old version. I think it must due to the more RAM usage, my gig is 8GB RAM+I5 2500K. I hope the next update could bring more CPU core usage.

Edited December 28, 2013 by Lao Fei Mao

[javelina1]

After tasted the 1.2.7 beta, there is obviously FPS increase if comparing with old version. I think it must due to the more RAM usage, my gig is 8GB RAM+I5 2500K. I hope the next update could bring more CPU core usage.

 

Curious, what GPU do you have installed?

[Blaze]

Like Nate said, the minimum requirement is 6 GB. I have 8, and watching my memory usage with it running it's at 75%, so that's about right.

[SkateZilla]

Honestly I don't see much significant difference between now and when A10C was released.

 

Coding, Systems, Systems Interaction, Features for New modules, etc etc

 

Go through all the DCSW 1.1.2.1, 1.2.0, 1.2.1, 1.2.2, 1.2.3, 1.2.4, 1.2.5 and 1.2.6 and look at the new features/changelogs.

[Focha]

Coding, Systems, Systems Interaction, Features for New modules, etc etc

 

Go through all the DCSW 1.1.2.1, 1.2.0, 1.2.1, 1.2.2, 1.2.3, 1.2.4, 1.2.5 and 1.2.6 and look at the new features/changelogs.

 

I'm talking about visual changes with the same settings. Mainly textures. But yes, all of you are right, I am just asking for some tweaks so guys like me that can't afford new hardware could still use the sim. Thanks guys.

[G00dnight]

I am sorry for you Focha but with that rig even on low settings you are way below what is needed, IMO you need at least 6 gig of DDR3 ram not the DDR2 you have, The GPU is also well below minimums you need something with at least 2gig of ram, Also from experience your comp is only just capable of running Win7 and when I put it on my old rig it ran so slow it wasn't worth it. so I think you need to save for a new rig..

[Abburo]

Our requests to increase fidelity, graphic level details and any other improvments lead to higher computing needs. We cannot go backward, so we have to make efforts to keep up with our own hardware.

[Pilotasso]

Also, HHD's no longer can keep up with the requirements of bandwidth, and the bandwith the system already is capable of. SSD's are increasing obligatory these days and they are fast becoming mainstream.

 

Making a new rig without an SSD today is like having a Ferrari chassis with a Volkswagen beetle engine inside.

 

guaranteed to shorten the loading times and eliminating stutter.

Edited December 28, 2013 by Pilotasso

[ALDEGA]

Ok, I understand that. Honestly I don't see much significant difference between now and when A10C was released.

A number of ground, sea and air objects have been replaced by much more detailed models with high resolution textures. Cockpit self-shadowing was added, detailed 6DOF cockpits were added for some of the FC aircraft, tree shadows were added, the water rendering was improved (especially on the "high" setting) ...

 

I'm talking about visual changes with the same settings. Mainly textures.[/Quote]With the changes to the graphics alone (see above), performance would naturally decrease, even with the same settings.

 

I am just asking for some tweaks so guys like me that can't afford new hardware could still use the sim. Thanks guys.

Lowering the graphics settings seems the only solution, if upgrading the hardware is not an option.

 

The Nvidia 9600GT was released over five years ago and was considered a "budget" card at the time of release.

 

PS: what graphics settings are you using?

[Darkwolf]

It can run on 4go - it's working on one of my computer. But it doesn't goes that smooth.

 

RAM doesn't cost that much nowadays - it's nowhere where it used to be at the old DDR1 era. Still a pain, but affordable nowadays.

 

 

EDIT :

 

Also - if budget don't allow to upgrade for now, you can still revert to an old DCS version and save some money. :)

[sobek]

DDR2 is pretty costly now since it's no longer produced.

[Cyb0rg]

Hello,

 

Will the next update at least optimize the memory usage better?

 

The sim is getting close to being unusable.

 

I mainly have stutters regarding building textures. Takes lots of time to load, in game. For example moving the head in game. Also mainly with Mi8. But this happens with Su25 for example.

 

My opinion and advice, is that the memory usage/pre load should be optimized. Clearly something is wrong with that.

 

Can we have a word on this issue for the next update?

 

Regards.

 

Hi Focha,

 

I have same processor as yours. If you double your memory and buy a more recent GFX you would probably be able to fly with an average of 25-30fps (i do).

 

But IMO not worth the investment.

 

Better save for a new rig.

Here my settings:

Edited December 28, 2013 by Cyb0rg

[Koekemoeroetoe]

Usually stutter is caused by low FPS and/or high frametimes. Both causes are themselve caused by a too weak GPU (in your case a 9600GT, which is really old and slow for now a day games). A RAM upgrade + GPU upgrade should make the game playable on at least lowest settings.

 

What you might try before upgrading:

- Set textures to the lowest setting (textures use VRAM => the memory on your GPU VRAM full == stutter)

- Turn of MSAA (really important, can easily double your framerate!)

- Turn of HDR (lighting is usually extremely GPU intense)

 

Long story short, try to turn down all of your settings as low as possible, if it doesn't help, an upgrade of your PC is required.

[Wolf Rider]

Ok, I understand that. Honestly I don't see much significant difference between now and when A10C was released. And I didn't have half the performance problems I have now. Online for me is a no go, unfortunately, although I made many sorties with A10C, without any significant performance problems.

I understand that as software advance, so does the hardware do to take advantage of it, but developer has to take in mind to have different option for different PC hardware.

What I am trying to say is that for the same settings I have lots of performance issues, so probably there are things that have to be tweaked. Just my two cents.

Regards and thanks for the replies, unfortunately I don't have money for upgrading, but the say is, "if you don't have money, shouldn't have addictions".

 

 

What helps is not installing the sim to the C:\ Program Files (Windows Vista/ 764bit), install to a directory (such as C:\ sims, which you create, for instance... or to a separate physical drive altogether) outside of the Program Files and also Installing as Administrator and setting the sim folder to have Full Permissions.

[piXel496]

You probably gain most with a substantial lower preload radius in graphics settings.

 

Maybe a bit impolite because it involves money, but your whole pc experience will change if you upgrade your hardware.

 

 

 

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[Focha]

Ok, first of all, that you a lot for all your replies.

 

Second, I did not title my post with "Complaining because I do not have the minimum amount of RAM.", if I want it to be like that I would. So next time I hope, for the sake of content owning, that at least I get a recommendation from a moderator. Thank you.

 

And lastly, yesterday I download open beta 1.2.7., guess what? For the same settings I have a lot better results, don't get stutters anymore, don't have the problem with the view stopping each time I look other way, and I now can put more units in the sim than just my aircraft.

So congratulations on the release of the open beta, because it really made the world difference for me.

 

Yes, as I said, I probably don't have the minimum requirements for running the sim as it should, but in my opinion, and as the engine is still the same, I probably was right regarding optimizing the textures/systems/3D models. If you have background or work on 3D, you know that simple things that cannot be seen make a lot of difference when it relates to PC performance.

 

Otherwise with the same settings, same mission, I would get the same problems as I did in 1.2.6.

 

Best regards and thank you.

[Lao Fei Mao]

My GPU is the outdated HD6970.

I do appreciate the effectiveness of the 1.2.7 beta and the new su-33, I can't live without it, the most handsome jet I've ever seen. Especially while succeed to do an aircraft deck landing or in-flight refuelling, wow, the feeling is gorgeous

[blackbelter]

Guys, you are getting my hopes up...

 

I have a 8GB (now 16 GB) + 680 2GB, so my FPS has been decent (almost) always. But there is no such thing as too decent... Soo looking forward to 1.2.7 now.

 

One thing, though. So much effort has been put into 1.2.7. But when EDGE comes out, will all the optimization that went into 1.2.7 still apply? Or everything need to be done from ground up once again, due to the change of graphix engine?

 

Thanks.