Release??

[Revan]

look guys, I'm sorry that I came off as hostile, I am just tired of waiting through all the delays.

[uboats]

look guys, I'm sorry that I came off as hostile, I am just tired of waiting through all the delays.

 

I believe everyone's been hungry and thirsty for months or even years, me too.

Just keep patient, I told myself every morning before open the web of this subforum ;)

We've been waiting so long, so one more month or less isn't a big deal right?

[Mode1961]

Huh?

 

We (the current development team) gave one release date. March 31st. That didn't happen because of a rather obvious issue.

 

May-June was a rough estimation for wrapping up development and launch. Development has been wrapped.

We've got to play by the rules and go through the motions of PROPERLY launching what is arguably one of the most complex DCS modules -- thus the timeframe was kept suitably vague.

 

You have a penchant for negativity: here, on our Facebook and at SimHQ. I still remember you accusing us of posting bullshots.

It's rather tiring to hear you harp on us, especially when it's completely misguided (seriously? I post pretty much every single day.)

 

I always fall for your bait too.

 

There was nothing obvious about the issue in Mar, the former leader was doing NOTHING on this sim for a long time, this sim was no where near ready to make Mar31st , Are you seriously saying this sim would have been ready if Beczl hadn't left. You are close to 3 months past that due date, and now it looks like you are going to miss this 'date' as well.

 

BTW, what r u talking about, On Simhq and FB, I don't post there.

[statrekmike]

While I fully understand that releasing such a product does involve a plethora of logistical and technical concerns that I can't even begin to fathom, I still can't help but feel like a few screenshots or even another video would probably not be a bad idea, at the very least, a new video would help build some hype around the product.

 

I am still hoping for a June release, it might not happen but it still would be pretty neat none the less.

[Zakatak]

Here's a reminder of whats been happening and still down the pipe...

That update, which was almost a week ago, mentions that the module is "pretty much finished" with the exception of QC, core integration, and testing. None of those things are manuals, which tells me the manuals are finished. So, y'know, it would be really appreciated and would shut up everyone who is bored to death for the week. It can't take much longer than add attachment > mig21manual.pdf > submit reply and even if it does take longer, it'll make the wait seem shorter. Oh, and people would be more prepared when the module is released, so that means more people online. This is a win-win-win situation.

 

Just an extremely strong recommendation.

Edited June 23, 2014 by Zakatak

[Buzzles]

There was nothing obvious about the issue in Mar, the former leader was doing NOTHING on this sim for a long time, this sim was no where near ready to make Mar31st , Are you seriously saying this sim would have been ready if Beczl hadn't left. You are close to 3 months past that due date, and now it looks like you are going to miss this 'date' as well.

 

Sorry, have to ask this question:

 

Did you ever read the sticky at the top of this forum?

 

Linky

 

The Q&A section in particular answers your March 31st questions...and makes it pretty obvious why they missed it.

 

Edit: @Leatherneck guys: Don't let the negative people bring you down!

[kazereal]

May-June was a rough estimation for wrapping up development and launch. Development has been wrapped.

We've got to play by the rules and go through the motions of PROPERLY launching what is arguably one of the most complex DCS modules -- thus the timeframe was kept suitably vague.

 

Thanks for you patience and endurance! :thumbup:

Rest assured, there are plenty of people cheering for you here!

 

Edit: don't let the negativity bring you down!

Edited June 24, 2014 by kazereal

[Mode1961]

Sorry, have to ask this question:

 

Did you ever read the sticky at the top of this forum?

 

Linky

 

The Q&A section in particular answers your March 31st questions...and makes it pretty obvious why they missed it.

 

Edit: @Leatherneck guys: Don't let the negative people bring you down!

 

Do you mean the part where they say the delay wouldn't be very long. YUP, read that part.

[NineLine]

Do you mean the part where they say the delay wouldn't be very long. YUP, read that part.

 

And complaining about it is help how? Really guys, show some patience and maturity... beating up LN is NOT helping.... everyone is eager for this aircraft, asking for it daily, or complaining about the delays is getting old.

[outlawal2]

And complaining about it is help how? Really guys, show some patience and maturity... beating up LN is NOT helping.... everyone is eager for this aircraft, asking for it daily, or complaining about the delays is getting old.

 

+1

:thumbup:

[NineLine]

This module carries the DCS title, on what planet would it be good for ED to not check the quality of this release when it bares their name.... so its not a delay, its due course... stop with the silliness... when its ready, its ready... when its ready you guys will be the first to know, they wont wait until someone asks before releasing it....

 

Leatherneck "should we release it today?"

ED: "No they havent asked if its ready 800 times yet, that is the sweet spot to release a DCS module"

 

 

I guess guys now ball is not in the LN hands, they have done their work, as I understood from Cobras post, it is ready, now it is ED who are testing and integrating MIG to the DCS world. But I have question: why do they need to integrate it ? So is this Mig-21 model developed in some kind of vacuum and now it should be put in to DCS world? or how does it work? I thought that LN had this 1.2.8 Free download version of DCS world and they developed and integrated module in it during work process, am I wrong? anyway now I think it is ED who , if there will be delay will be the cause of it.

Edited June 24, 2014 by NineLine

[Flagrum]

That update, which was almost a week ago, mentions that the module is "pretty much finished" with the exception of QC, core integration, and testing. None of those things are manuals, which tells me the manuals are finished. So, y'know, it would be really appreciated and would shut up everyone who is bored to death for the week. It can't take much longer than add attachment > mig21manual.pdf > submit reply and even if it does take longer, it'll make the wait seem shorter. Oh, and people would be more prepared when the module is released, so that means more people online. This is a win-win-win situation.

 

Just an extremely strong recommendation.

The manual is most likely subject to QC as well.

(But yes, I too would want to have it ... ;o)

[Iberian]

The MiG-21 was released already, 14 February 1956. =P

[Zakatak]

Okay so the official Leatherneck website says that Ground Controlled Intercept is implemented, but the simulated MiG-21 does not have the Lazur GCI system. So... you don't need dedicated GCI avionics to actually use GCI? What does Lazur do in the first place that makes it worth having then?

 

I guess this means we're getting the Fishbed-N with the ILS systems instead, right?

Edited June 24, 2014 by Zakatak

[NoJoe]

Okay so the official Leatherneck website says that Ground Controlled Intercept is implemented, but the simulated MiG-21 does not have the Lazur GCI system. So... you don't need dedicated GCI avionics to actually use GCI? What does Lazur do in the first place that makes it worth having then?

 

I guess this means we're getting the Fishbed-N with the ILS systems instead, right?

 

I think it was Dolphin who explained that the "implemented" GCI system is the built-in AWACS function present in DCS World. He had a good post, maybe someone here knows where that is.

 

[EDIT] Here it is! http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2059640#post2059640

Edited June 24, 2014 by NoJoe

[WildBillKelsoe]

guys lets drop the temper tantrum attitude. Its finished and is being polished. Period.

[Skulleader]

WOW it's hot, for me I can wait because I prefer one module well finish and who work fine with DCS than one product wrong finish.

 

There's few month I've created few skins for the Huey (for my pleasure) and sometimes it's more long for created one beautiful or perfect skin because I've meet any problems so I can understand that created one complete module is not one easy thing.

 

Yes of course I'm a great fan of this MIG-21 and future F-86 (BST) but I can wait always many weeks or month because it's the price of the quality.

 

DCS is not FSX, with FSX all the weeks on addon is release but I don't like these addons for many reasons.

With DCS we have not many modules but each module is a real master piece, a real perfection.

 

So I can understand that Leatherneck think, it's not easy or good for them to read all these negative messages from few forums...

 

Cobra847 I can just talk for me and I would like to say you have created one future great module for DCS, maybe the best but we must wait with patience, now it's the summer and it's time go at the beach, it's the good atitude ^^

 

PS: I'm very sorry for my poor English, Cobra847 thanks again for all and best regards. Skull

 

[uboats]

WOW it's hot, for me I can wait because I prefer one module well finish and who work fine with DCS than one product wrong finish.

 

There's few month I've created few skins for the Huey (for my pleasure) and sometimes it's more long for created one beautiful or perfect skin because I've meet any problems so I can understand that created one complete module is not one easy thing.

 

Yes of course I'm a great fan of this MIG-21 and future F-86 (BST) but I can wait always many weeks or month because it's the price of the quality.

 

DCS is not FSX, with FSX all the weeks on addon is release but I don't like these addons for many reasons.

With DCS we have not many modules but each module is a real master piece, a real perfection.

 

So I can understand that Leatherneck think, it's not easy or good for them to read all these negative messages from few forums...

 

Cobra847 I can just talk for me and I would like to say you have created one future great module for DCS, maybe the best but we must wait with patience, now it's the summer and it's time go at the beach, it's the good atitude ^^

 

PS: I'm very sorry for my poor English, Cobra847 thanks again for all and best regards. Skull

 

 

+1 :thumbup:

[Taproot]

Can someone link that photo of that A-10 and the text "you need some fuel for that whine"? I am on the phone atm.

 

Point is, whining dont help at all(period)

[Mike Busutil]

Running out of MiG's to watch on YouTube....

 

[Lordbaldur]

I guess guys now ball is not in the LN hands, they have done their work, as I understood from Cobras post, it is ready, now it is ED who are testing and integrating MIG to the DCS world. But I have question: why do they need to integrate it ? So is this Mig-21 model developed in some kind of vacuum and now it should be put in to DCS world? or how does it work? I thought that LN had this 1.2.8 Free download version of DCS world and they developed and integrated module in it during work process, am I wrong? anyway now I think it is ED who , if there will be delay will be the cause of it.

My guess is let's assume an A-10 is targeted by a Mig-21 in multiplayer. If that's the case, then they have to make a whole new icon for the RWR. Likewise the F-15 if it targets a Mig-21, the devs will have to design the Mig-21 icon as well. I'm sure there are other examples, but that's what I assume when they mean integrating.

[Sceptre]

My guess is let's assume an A-10 is targeted by a Mig-21 in multiplayer. If that's the case, then they have to make a whole new icon for the RWR. Likewise the F-15 if it targets a Mig-21, the devs will have to design the Mig-21 icon as well. I'm sure there are other examples, but that's what I assume when they mean integrating.

 

This. It works in DCS, at least as far as I can tell from the video we saw a while back, but they are probably just bug squashing right now. I wouldn't imagine it will take too much longer.

[Hans-Joachim Marseille]

I always fall for your bait

That is so true, but we like you for it (^^,)

[Andrei]

Misery. Hopelessness. Despair. MiG. :)

[NoJoe]

My guess is let's assume an A-10 is targeted by a Mig-21 in multiplayer. If that's the case, then they have to make a whole new icon for the RWR. Likewise the F-15 if it targets a Mig-21, the devs will have to design the Mig-21 icon as well. I'm sure there are other examples, but that's what I assume when they mean integrating.

 

Plus it takes time to do the bug squashing since there's a bit of back-and-forth between testers and developers. A tester finds a bug and submits a report; someone on the dev team then has to read the report, implement a fix, and that fix has to be incorporated in the next test build. The original tester then checks to see the bug is fixed once that test build is made, etc...

 

It's a bit of a process. :) Even though Cobra mentioned that the code is basically complete, I bet they're still working really hard at this point. I'm sure it will be a huge relief for them when the plane releases!