sobek Posted June 8, 2015 Posted June 8, 2015 As it's a new engine [and a lot more new stuff] I'm gonna guess a new install I'm still trying to think of a scenario that would make the updater unable to swap the respective files. Personally, i find it unlikely that it won't be possible to update, but i'm not a dev so don't take my opinion for gospel. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
blackbelter Posted June 8, 2015 Posted June 8, 2015 Right now I have only one install, that of open-beta. When 2.0 is released, I am going to have two. One for the released version of 1.2.X which has been proven stable, and another 2.X.X open-beta. The best of both worlds. Can't wait.
SkateZilla Posted June 8, 2015 Posted June 8, 2015 I'm still trying to think of a scenario that would make the updater unable to swap the respective files. Personally, i find it unlikely that it won't be possible to update, but i'm not a dev so don't take my opinion for gospel. The opposite, actually (see first post). Unless you count the possible benefits inherent in DX11. I assume DCS World 2 is going to completely replace 1.0. According to the poll here 96.8% of the respondents have DX11 hardware. I know that from a configuration management standpoint, it would be a lot easier to create and maintain an base install than both base install and upgrade from 1.0. Besides, it makes sense to have DCSW2 be a separate install so that you can keep 1.0 compatibility for multiplayer with people who don't have the DX11 hardware. Hasnt been announced yet. Either way, it will still be up to the Consumer whether you want to download the installers and make a new install or update/delete an older 1.2. etc etc Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
MemphisBelle Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 Hasnt been announced yet. Either way, it will still be up to the Consumer whether you want to download the installers and make a new install or update/delete an older 1.2. etc etc you know that especially guessing about things that havent took place already is the fun? let us dream :D BlackSharkDen | BSD Discord | DCS Tutorial Collection
Suchacz Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 Will there be any improvement of Physics? If you mean flight model, so that is quite unlikely, but as far as I remember there should be some improvements regarding particle and other effects... Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2
ED Team NineLine Posted June 9, 2015 ED Team Posted June 9, 2015 You can look at the first post in this thread for a list of known improvements. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Neon67 Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 is there a plan for those who don t have dx11 available ? Like in the graphic option to enable or disable dx11
cichlidfan Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 is there a plan for those who don t have dx11 available ? Like in the graphic option to enable or disable dx11 I suspect that would be a no. Just like 32bit support, it would hinder the development of the sim. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Chromius Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 I asked this question a while back and did not see an answer. Will ground units be hindered by LOS behind trees, and will rockets and munitions fired from air to ground also be affected by trees, and will it affect target locks/tracking? Will it affect AI seeing through trees for detection?
ED Team NineLine Posted June 9, 2015 ED Team Posted June 9, 2015 I would hope with collision models for trees that this would effect LOS, but no info has been given yet on that. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Neon67 Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 I suspect that would be a no. Just like 32bit support, it would hinder the development of the sim. I am afraid of that, but that seems also normal IMO . I must be the only one playing DCS with an 7 years old rig :D
SkateZilla Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 I asked this question a while back and did not see an answer. Will ground units be hindered by LOS behind trees, and will rockets and munitions fired from air to ground also be affected by trees, and will it affect target locks/tracking? Will it affect AI seeing through trees for detection? I would hope with collision models for trees that this would effect LOS, but no info has been given yet on that. At least with collision models, even if they see you, and fire a missile, maybe it would hit a tree and go boom lol. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Aginor Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 Yep. Preventing detection would be ideal, I could live with them at least not hitting me though. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
Suchacz Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) LOS and sensor blocking by obstacles, not mentioning the trees colidable with missiles and projectiles would be a real gamechanger for the helos. I hope... wait ... I pray for that :cry: Edited June 9, 2015 by Suchacz Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2
rrohde Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 LOS and sensor blocking by obstacles, not mentioning the trees colidable with missiles and projectiles would be a real gamechanger for the helos. I hope... wait ... I pray for that :cry: I have high expectations for EDGE-based maps, so I don't expect anything less. But then again, hope always dies last... :) PC: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X | MSI Suprim GeForce 3090 TI | ASUS Prime X570-P | 128GB DDR4 3600 RAM | 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD | Win10 Pro 64bit Gear: HP Reverb G2 | JetPad FSE | VKB Gunfighter Pro Mk.III w/ MCG Ultimate VKBcontrollers.com
emg Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 I am afraid of that, but that seems also normal IMO . I must be the only one playing DCS with an 7 years old rig :D You can get budget DX11 cards very cheap: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/dx11/supported-gpus?field_gpu_type_value=All&page=3
outlawal2 Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 I suspect that would be a no. Just like 32bit support, it would hinder the development of the sim. I think this is a moot point as I don't believe that any current card that IS approved for DCS now is not already DirectX 11 capable.. "Pride is a poor substitute for intelligence." RAMBO
Cedaway Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 LOS and sensor blocking by obstacles, not mentioning the trees colidable with missiles and projectiles would be a real gamechanger for the helos. I hope... wait ... I pray for that :cry: Post #1 of the thread: More detailed tree models with collision for new maps ;) DCS Wish: Turbulences affecting surrounding aircraft... [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P - Intel Core i5 6600K - 16Gb RAM DDR4-2133 - Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 G1 Gaming - 8 Go - 2 x SSD Crucial MX300 - 750 Go RAID0 - Screens: HP OMEN 32'' 2560x1440 + Oculus Rift CV1 - Win 10 - 64bits - TM WARTHOG #889 - Saitek Pro Rudder.
Neon67 Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 I think this is a moot point as I don't believe that any current card that IS approved for DCS now is not already DirectX 11 capable.. I am currently using a Radeon 4870 , it supports dx 10 but not 11. Anyway I will have to buy a rig, I just had hoped that there would be some spec published about EDGE by now, at least what is not anymore supported, like dx10 or 9
iLOVEwindmills Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 Just because they've said that it supports DX11 does not mean it explicitly requires it to run properly right? At least I can't see that stated in the thread start. It's not that uncommon anyway for DX versions to be optional.
rcjonessnp175 Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 It clearly states dx11 render.... Page 1. We all have to upgrade with the times eventually I7 4770k @ 4.6, sli 980 evga oc edition, ssdx2, Sony 55 inch edid hack nvidia 3dvision. Volair sim pit, DK2 Oculus Rift.
Suchacz Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 Post #1 of the thread: More detailed tree models with collision for new maps ;) Of course Ive read that, but it is too general. No one had confirmed that the trees will collide with LOS, sensors or bullets... What to say? We will see, I hope SOON :smilewink: Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2
Neon67 Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 It clearly states dx11 render.... Page 1. We all have to upgrade with the times eventually There is a difference between supporting dx11 and having it as minimum requirement A small confirmation by sithspawn would be great if he is allowed to tell :music_whistling:
rcjonessnp175 Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 If you guys have been around awhile like some of us, they are very tight lipped on any details until its done. Helps prevent the Lynch Mobs I7 4770k @ 4.6, sli 980 evga oc edition, ssdx2, Sony 55 inch edid hack nvidia 3dvision. Volair sim pit, DK2 Oculus Rift.
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