Crimea

[Rongor]

As we learnt in Wags' recent explanation, only the NTTR is on T4, the Black Sea map will enter EDGE on T3 and be elevated later, hence we will see two separate installations in the beginning.

Regarding this "rework" of the Black sea map, is their any chance we will see the dev team using this one and only opportunity to put the Crimean scenery back into the Black Sea map?

[Cykyrios]

Although we have no real info about this, I believe it only means they're integrating the map into the T4 version, and the only "rework" will consist in making sure there are no bugs in the process, or adapting objects and textures (we've already witnessed a few of those issues, such as trees and other objects not blending properly).

 

Just my guess, anyway, but I wouldn't get my hopes too high for this. Nevada is coming, and the only reason it is a separate install is because they want to keep their November deadline, otherwise we would've waited maybe a few more weeks, but 2.0 would've come directly to the open beta branch.

[rrohde]

I agree with Rongor - that would be a great opportunity to bring back Crimea! To me, especially with the new EDGE engine, the Caucasus map is far from being dead and I am currently going through all the campaigns again. What fun with improved performance this is.

 

Just imagine how much more potential there is in that Black Sea theater under EDGE tech.

[Rongor]

Bringing back Crimea would mean so much added value to the Black Sea theater that this map could gain enough new hype to stand as an equal alongside the NTTR.

NTTR will reasonably get more attention after release, as the community understandably is hungry for something new after all these years in Georgia. And the NTTR surely deserves that attention.

Adding Crimea back would bring decent value to the Black Sea, giving us a real choice between 2 equally worthy theaters with a lot of exciting possibilities.

I am absolutely willing to pay for Crimea.

 

At least all the navigational facilities and terrain are already there.

Would need the airports, road network, rails and powerlines and the general foilage data. And the city of Sevastopol of course. This probably means much work.

But the work to build an entirely new map is surely much more intense than only having to do the Crimea. So by adding Crimea alone, we would gain a new exciting map, whithout the devs having to do all of Georgia again. Compared to a full scale new map, the work needed to do is considerably less.

 

As a side note, given the recent world developments, it might be worth to add one or two turkish port towns in the south ;)

[rrohde]

+1

 

:thumbup:

[NRG-Vampire]

"rework" will consist in making sure there are no bugs in the process, or adapting objects and textures (we've already witnessed a few of those issues, such as trees and other objects not blending properly).

 

yes, there are decade old non-fixed bugs what are coming more garish with the new gfx engine

 

is their any chance we will see the dev team using this one and only opportunity to put the Crimean scenery back into the Black Sea map?

 

everything is possible, it's just a matter of decision

[Brisse]

As much as I'd like to see Crimea, this is probably a huge amount of work.

[MauganRa84]

It would be FANTASTIQUE if Crimea was to return to the Black Sea map. Pretty please oh please with a cherry on top ED.

[Northstar98]

Whilst renavating/reworking the Black Sea Map would be a huge undertaking, from my perspective the map is old and is showing its age and really needs a major facelift to put it on par with other aspects of DCS World, the same goes for some ground vehicles, weapons, airbases and ships. If we do get a new map it would be great if rivers and roads had embankments etc (like outerra) and to have limited underwater simulation. As well everything in high fidelity, textures, resolution and 3D models etc.

 

But yeah I'm way on board with seeing a reworked Black Sea Map

[NRG-Vampire]

As much as I'd like to see Crimea, this is probably a huge amount of work.

 

not necessarily

to build from scratch, yes

but using the old lomac source map files, is not

(converting, editing, correcting, upgrading, facelifting) needs few months only, im sure

[Boberro]

I miss Crimea so much..... bring it back, now is great opportunity.

[chromium]

not necessarily

to build from scratch, yes

but using the old lomac source map files, is not

(converting, editing, correcting, upgrading, facelifting) needs few months only, im sure

 

Are you talking from direct experience? I mean, when you say that you are are sure, it is because you technically know what you're talking about?

 

I ask cause it could be interesting, but I also heard that it would be an important workload in the past.

[kripzoo]

I hope ED would rework some of the airports in the current black sea map.

Like adding better/higher res textures for runways and taxiways.

 

Because at the moment some airports have higher texture resolutions than the other's like Anapa compared to Kobuleti airbase.

[Mizzy]

Regarding this "rework" of the Black sea map, is their any chance we will see the dev team using this one and only opportunity to put the Crimean scenery back into the Black Sea map?

 

Yes indeed I would love to see the map back. I much preferred it.

 

Mizzy

[Flagrum]

Didn't Wags answer this already in one of the weekend videos? Like, no, not ruling it out for good, but not planned for now? Or why this thread here once again ...?

[NRG-Vampire]

Are you talking from direct experience? I mean, when you say that you are are sure, it is because you technically know what you're talking about?

yep

with a converter or terrain source files it's about few weeks only to bring up to the current Black Sea/Caucasus map level/detail

to bring up to edge/dcsw2.0 is another (short) story

 

I ask cause it could be interesting, but I also heard that it would be an important workload in the past.

workload ? i dont think so

maybe only copyright thing of ubisoft

Edited November 29, 2015 by NRG-Vampire

[Ironhand]

While I'd like to see the Crimea again, I'd much rather have the current map upgraded to reflect the architecture, major monuments, numerous world heritage sites, etc that exist in the region. We had much of this in the Crimea map and that's what gave it such a great sense of place. With the exception of the Svaneti village architecture placed here and there, you see nothing but generic buildings as you cruise the map.

[Rongor]

Didn't Wags answer this already in one of the weekend videos? Like, no, not ruling it out for good, but not planned for now? Or why this thread here once again ...?

Didn't watch the videos. So I had no clue and posted my idea.

[Art-J]

Keep in mind that some of the old LOMAC assets still belong to Ubisoft, so one cannot just convert Crimean content to DCS without dealing with copyrights and buying these assets "back".

 

Building a new infrastructure from scratch might be the only option but looks like they're not going to invest time and money into the old map apart from absolute minimum work required for compatibility with new engine.

[theGozr]

unless is a free addon

[Grigs]

While I'd like to see the Crimea again, I'd much rather have the current map upgraded to reflect the architecture, major monuments, numerous world heritage sites, etc that exist in the region. We had much of this in the Crimea map and that's what gave it such a great sense of place. With the exception of the Svaneti village architecture placed here and there, you see nothing but generic buildings as you cruise the map.

Oh yeah, I do agree with you Sir !

[Eight Ball]

I hope ED would rework some of the airports in the current black sea map.

Like adding better/higher res textures for runways and taxiways.

 

Because at the moment some airports have higher texture resolutions than the other's like Anapa compared to Kobuleti airbase.

 

There's a mod for this, fairly sure it works with 1.5

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=142803

[Stratos]

I will love to see Crimea back, but If is not possible cause UBI has the rights to anything related to that area, why not add more map to the East? From Tiblisi to the Caspian there are 450 km (the same 450 km that goes from Tibilisi to Sochi) and we can represent Armenia, Turkey, Azerbaijan and a bit of Iran including the Nagorno-Kharabakh region...

 

 

http://www.acig.info/CMS/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=156&Itemid=47

[GeorgeLKMT]

why not add more map to the East?

 

Because crimea is already done and we're just asking for them to add it while there's absolutely nothing to the east. And they already said they're not touching the caucasus as far as (re)creating new stuff goes...

[Stratos]

Because crimea is already done and we're just asking for them to add it while there's absolutely nothing to the east. And they already said they're not touching the caucasus as far as (re)creating new stuff goes...

 

I see. A real shame as the terrain is really interesting and we already have plenty of the planes and helicopters used by both parts, maybe a modder should give it a go...