Airj247 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I have no clue if this has been talked about I may have missed it. But what about the SU-24, it is multicrew, swept wing and adds another Russian aircraft which DCS needs. I was inverted B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzerfan Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Indeed, besides the Tornado the Aardvark is also my best bet, also I personally don't like it much. Like the Tornado it has multicrew (-> JESTER AI), a ground mapping radar (-> Viggen technology) and sweep wings (-> Tomcat tech). But the Tornado also has thrust reverser (-> Viggen tech). If it comes down to F-111 or Tornado I hope we get a german one. I want that MW-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazduc Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Translation As nice as either of those would be, can't see either one getting made. FWIW I flew on the BUFF IRL, maintained the Bone and conducted flight test on both the Bone and BUFF. - The EWO station on the BUFF is marked classified - How to operate the DSO station on the Bone probably won't be public domain either - Both aircraft are very WSO/NAV centered airframes, pilots are bus drivers - The BUFF has terrible handling qualities (it was always really fun to watch the fighter TPS studs attempt to fly the BUFF on Qual Evals ;) ) - With FBW and Stab Aug off the Bone can be nasty also - The systems on both are way more redundant and complex than a fighter, fighters step to the jet 40-45 min prior to take off. We always stepped 90 min to 2 hours prior My guess is a Vark or Tonka What is bone, buff, stab aug, fbw, ewo, dso, tps studs...............:huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) I have no clue if this has been talked about I may have missed it. But what about the SU-24, it is multicrew, swept wing and adds another Russian aircraft which DCS needs. Definitely not a bad bet. It's the russian Tornado :D If it comes down to F-111 or Tornado I hope we get a german one. I want that MW-1 Me too! Edited December 28, 2017 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rweaves6 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 I have no clue if this has been talked about I may have missed it. But what about the SU-24, it is multicrew, swept wing and adds another Russian aircraft which DCS needs. Oh yeah, that makes sense...that's a good guess! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenovia Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Mig-23 MLD? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carss Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 Mig-23 MLD? There was already some mention of a Flogger before. But not by HB and also not by Razbam [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Planes: FC3, P-51, F-86, F-5E, Mirage 2000, F/A-18, F-14, F-16, Mig-19P :joystick: ED pls gib A-4 and F-4 :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asla36 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 The best we can hope for right now is that it is being developed under NDA by someone unknown. Some 3rd parties like LN and RAZBAM can be ruled out outright as candidates, since they have outright denied or gotten denied development of the MiG-23. Before the split LN did state that they had plans to develop a MiG-23, but that something else would come first. However since then they have underwent an organisational reform and a split, so a few years old plan to develop the MiG-23 is likely to have been dumped in the process. But I would love to be wrong, the MiG-23 is, much like the Tornado, just too iconic to be left out of DCS. DCS: MiG-23 [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Make it happen, and take my money! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buren Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 I have a hunch feeling that the next aircraft is going to be either the F-111 or the Panavia Tornado. Both excellent aircraft, altough I have a slight preference for the former. Either way, I am really excited for the Tomcat -- 2018 is going to be great for DCS, can't wait for the release. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 There was a post pointing to the russian part of the forum where a ED guy was confirming(?) that ED will do the Mig-23 and Mig-27 and that no 3rd Party developer will be doing them - if google translate worked correct. https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3314920&postcount=1114 Modules: KA-50, A-10C, FC3, UH-1H, MI-8MTV2, CA, MIG-21bis, FW-190D9, Bf-109K4, F-86F, MIG-15bis, M-2000C, SA342 Gazelle, AJS-37 Viggen, F/A-18C, F-14, C-101, FW-190A8, F-16C, F-5E, JF-17, SC, Mi-24P Hind, AH-64D Apache, Mirage F1, F-4E Phantom II System: Win 11 Pro 64bit, Ryzen 3800X, 32gb RAM DDR4-3200, PowerColor Radeon RX 6900XT Red Devil ,1 x Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe, 2 x Samsung SSD 2TB + 1TB SATA, MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals - VIRPIL T-50CM and VIRPIL MongoosT-50 Throttle - HP Reverg G2, using only the latest Open Beta, DCS settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkellytx Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) What is bone, buff, stab aug, fbw, ewo, dso, tps studs...............:huh: Officers who arrive at pilot training in USAF aren't worthy of being called students, hence student is reduced to "studs". That carries over to Test Pilot School, where a large part of the syllabus is flying aircraft unfamiliar to the studs, which is why F-16 and F-15 guys would fly B-52's, but enough off topic. More potential challenges for the next plane to be a bomber: B-1B (Bone) - 4 crew, Pilot (P), Co-pilot (CP), Offensive system's Operator (OSO), Defensive Systems Operator (DSO) - Phased array radar (passive), , A2G, SAR, terrain following and A2A; plus some modes are interleaved - Complex flight controls, 2 channel Fly-by-wire (FBW) with manual reversion. Multiple stability augmentation (Stab Aug) modes SIS - Stall Inhibitor Systems, SEF - Stability Enhancement Function, Pitch Aug, Roll Aug, Yaw Aug, SMCS - Structural Mode Control System to name a few B-52 (BUFF) - 5 crew (6 ejection seats) Pilot (P), Co-pilot (CP), Electronic Warfare Officer (EW or EWO), Gunner (G - guns removed Oct 1991, seat remains), Radar Navigator (RN - the bombardier), Navigator (N) - Crosswind landing gear - Modeling the handling properties behind the tanker, the wing is large enough to interact with the tanker's vortex and the plane handles differently than when up and away Enough of reminiscing about bombers. The radar, multi-crew, engines, mitigate towards F-111, Tornado, or Su-24. Of the 3, one is no longer in service and much of the documentation is easily available. The main new tech would be auto TFR and the Pave Tack targeting pod (if the F model is modeled). I think the F-111 is an option, so is the Su-24, but not sure how much documentation is available for the later and if a license would be granted. Edited December 28, 2017 by mkellytx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probad Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) i think the su-24's been involved in too many current events to be given the okay a slim possibility if you want to model the early marks. Edited December 28, 2017 by probad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) Of the 3, one is no longer in service and much of the documentation is easily available. The main new tech would be auto TFR and the Pave Tack targeting pod (if the F model is modeled). I think the F-111 is an option, so is the Su-24, but not sure how much documentation is available and if a license would be granted. Just making sure: You're talking about the F-111 here, right? Edited December 28, 2017 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probad Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 yes pave tack = f111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Alright, makes sense :thumbup: Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkellytx Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Just making sure: You're talking about the F-111 here, right? Yes, Oz retired theirs in 2009, USAF got rid of them to by more Raptors in the 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzles Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 I bet Cobra is reading this thread and chuckling away. Fancy trying Star Citizen? Click here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester986 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 I'm hoping for a red aircraft, but if its going to be blue with apologies to our European friends the Vark is cooler than the Tornado. In actuality though its probably going to end up being something completely unforeseen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudikoff Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 If it comes down to F-111 or Tornado I hope we get a german one. I want that MW-1 Plus the Kormoran missiles on those neat Marineflieger birds. i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Plus the Kormoran missiles on those neat Marineflieger birds. And HARMs! I've also heard, that british Tornados did not have the ability to project overlay the moving map onto the ground mapping radar picture, unlike other Tornados. Does anyone know if that is true? Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Idea Hat Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 I bet Cobra is reading this thread and chuckling away. If he's not, then he's doing it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhinozherous Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 We don't want to be stuck in the eternal Beta rut. Thank youfor this, please stay with that attitude! i7-14700KF 5.6GHz Water Cooled /// ZOTAC RTX 4070 TI Super 16GB /// 32GB RAM DDR5 /// Win11 /// SSDs only DCS - XP12 - MSFS2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AG-51_Razor Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I doubt Heatblur will make a Phantom as Belsimtek is already working on one. The differences beteen the navy and the air force variants are too slim imho. Unfortunately, the differences are large enough for them to have said that they have no intention of doing the naval version :( [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkellytx Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Unfortunately, the differences are large enough for them to have said that they have no intention of doing the naval version :( Pity, it would be nice to have a J model or the British model with the pulse doppler radar and Speys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rider11 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Happy to see a dev say something like not wanting to be stuck in the beta rut! There is hope! A-10C/C-101/UH-1H/F-15C/L-39/HAWK/Mi-8/A-10A/P-51/AV-8B N/A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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