MiG-29 New Systems, any info?

[FoxAlfa]

Hello,

 

in the last weeks news letter is was stated:"On 10 October we will release the updated MiG-29 Fulcrum for Flaming Cliffs 3! This will include a Professional Flight Model (PFM), updated cockpit, and several new cockpit system functions"

 

I guess the SPO-15 is finally getting fixed, but is there info which new cockpit system functions will we get?

 

I guess in the line with other FC3 AC the AP lights will start working? Any additional info?

 

I know the that the nav info has been a sore point of the MiG-29 HUD repeater update....

[some1]

My guess is that they will mostly fix the broken/not working items in the MiG to make it more in line with the other aircraft. Like a working baro adjustment, AP lights that you've mentioned etc.

 

We'll know in two days :)

[Dudikoff]

My guess is that they will mostly fix the broken/not working items in the MiG to make it more in line with the other aircraft. Like a working baro adjustment, AP lights that you've mentioned etc.

 

Hopefully that will include the animated waypoint switches similar to how Su-25 was updated with them.

[Goa]

also su27 has animated switches :)

 

cant wait for the new mig29!!

[JunMcKill]

I hope they found info about the real mode to select two aircraft, and launch the R-77 with no lock on one of them (only MIG-29S). ARH missiles doesn't need a lock to be launched. In the F-15, is only reduced the radar scan area, to send the AIM-120C more accurate in TWS

[lmp]

It's interesting we've been given almost no info up until release pretty much.

[Pasquale1986]

No mention in the Changelog, too. Just PFM added...

[HiJack]

No mention in the Changelog, too. Just PFM added...

 

I hope they have fixed the cockpit lighting at least!

[drack]

Are we sure the PFM is added?

 

I dint see it in the changelog?

[Esac_mirmidon]

Yes it is.

[QuiGon]

Are we sure the PFM is added?

 

I dint see it in the changelog?

It is added. It's also in the changelog, at the very top.

[blue281269]

airbrakes not working, nothing no drop in speed and no animations

[FoxAlfa]

Is the SPO-15 at least working? I can't wait to finish work and get home to try it...

[Shadoga]

Airbrake is still working for all variants - but no longer as long as centerline fueltank is mounted.

Jettison tank and airbrake will work again.

Dunno if this is realistic, but if so - nice restriction to feature!

[FoxAlfa]

Airbrake is still working for all variants - but no longer as long as centerline fueltank is mounted.

Jettison tank and airbrake will work again.

Dunno if this is realistic, but if so - nice restriction to feature!

 

I recall reading the MiG-29 Yugoslav manual there was some restrictions when the fueltank was carried, vaguely I recall something to do with the air-brake so it could be a realistic restriction but don't quote me on that yet, need to recheck.

[Shadoga]

It's correct and confirmed:

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3650899&postcount=114

[Rudel_chw]

Have not yet had time to test it thoroughly, but I can see changes on the Autopilot, the old keybinds were:

 

Autopilot = {a}	
Autopilot-Route_following = {LALT 6}	
Autopilot-Altitude_And_Roll_Hold = {LALT 2}	
Autopilot-Attitude_Hold = {LALT 1}	
Autopilot-Barometric_Altitude_Hold = {LALT 4}	
Autopilot-Barometric_Altitude_Hold_'H' = {h}	
Autopilot-Radar_Altitude_Hold = {LALT 5}	
Autopilot-Transition_To_Level_Flight_Control = {LALT 3}	
Autopilot_Reset = {LALT 9}

 

the new ones are:

 

Autopilot = {a}	
Autopilot-'Path_Control' = {LALT 5}	
Autopilot-Attitude_Hold = {LALT 4}	
Autopilot-Barometric_Altitude_Hold = {LALT 3}	
Autopilot-Barometric_Altitude_Hold_'H' = {h}	
Autopilot-Damper = {LALT 1}	
Autopilot-Ground_Collision_Avoidance = {LALT 2}	
Autopilot-Reapproach = {LALT 6}	
Autopilot-Transition_To_Level_Flight_Control = {LALT 7}	
Autopilot_override = {LSHF a}	
Autopilot_Reset = {LALT 9}	
Decrease_Min_Altitude = {LCTL .}	
Increase_Min_Altitude = {LCTL ,}	

 

and the buttons are animated and its lights work:

 

 

The airbrake works, tough I feel that it doesnt bleed-off speed as much as previously:

 

 

Now the intake louvers work too, they open on the ground when the FOD screens are down:

 

 

The HSI and ADI are now illuminated ... previously they were dark even if the rest of the panel was lighted:

 

 

The new cockpit is gorgeous, in my opinion, much more realistic:

 

 

I'm re-training on the type, so will make more comments after I've flown her a while :)

 

I'm so happy with this FREE upgrade ... cant wait to see what ED will do with the Blackshark.

Cheers!

[Vatikus]

Cockpit is a lot to be desired... chaff/flare counter is still not working after forever, stick not aligned properly, etc... I really hope this is just a WIP.

[Goa]

as someone stated, the new cockpit was a "rush" job , probably just to meet with MAC requirments

[Ironhand]

Unless I'm missing it, it doesn't look like the navigation panel has been animated. So the nav issues continue, unfortunately. I had been hoping...

 

Just had time today for a quick 10 minute flight and she's an entirely new bird in the air. Noticed changes to the autopilot system in the controls menu. Much more enjoyable to fly.

[Dudikoff]

I have to check the new autopilot options, but the new FM fixed the silly roll rate available at slight deflections.

 

I usually fly the MiG-29S quick-mission to test the joystick axis settings so when I decided to try out the Hornet after that, I first thought there was something wrong with my joystick as the roll response was much weaker.

 

They also forgot to include the manual, but the module can actually be force-installed already and both English and Russian manuals are included.

 

Edited October 10, 2018 by Dudikoff

[Rudel_chw]

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They also forgot to include the manual, but the module can actually be force-installed already and both English and Russian manuals are included.

 

 

How can I do that? ... I'd like to have a look at the manual :)

[Dudikoff]

From the DCS World bin folder:

 

dcs_updater.exe install MIG-29

 

So, I guess there's no more route following AP mode? "Path control" sounds like it, but it says it's not implemented. I'm not sure which cockpit button it would correspond to, but if these two modes are not implemented, why have key controls assigned for them at all? Perhaps a future update?

 

I didn't spot anything else new in the manual besides the AP pages.

Edited October 10, 2018 by Dudikoff

[FoxAlfa]

Looking at the Silver Dragons video of the cockpit animation:

 

I noticed two things... nav panel has lights animated.... so we will probably get them in the future update... and also more interesting the radio channel dial is also animated.... so we might get radio channel switching in the future?

[Kappi]

In the manual p.49 (PDF p.55) is the TWS2 mode described which enables you to attack 2 targets simultaneously with R-77.

 

 

 

Did somebody try it out already?