Targeting pod

[TheJJ]

I would suggest ED heavily focus on getting the TP on release with the viper.

 

I know it isn't planned as such, but come on, the f18 has one now and wow it makes a huge difference. I am confident you guys can make it happen. You have a lot of time to work with.

 

Just consider it, because honestly for me I don't know if I want to buy the viper on release because it wont have a TP.

[QuiGon]

I would prefer them to implement and polish the basic core functions first, before implementing additional features like a TGP.

[Tom Kazansky]

I respect every opinion here. But I had a great time with the Hornet from day one and guess what: much of the fun was caused by the lack of a TGP. Don't get me wrong. I love beeing the king of the hill now with a TGP but I was forced to practice so many things I almost forgot with the A-10 and AV8B TGP attacks. Was great fun.

 

I'm looking forward to the Viper's TGP, too and I assume it will come faster than the Hornet's but it won't definitely be a non buy criteria if there wasn't a TGP at release. Sorry with respect.

Edited August 1, 2019 by Tom Kazansky

[Emmy]

I agree with “Ice Man” ^^^

 

While I generally fly the A-10C, I’ve managed to learn some Hornet along the way precisely because there has been a “building block” approach to its development. I hope to move to the Viper when we stand up a squadron within the 476th and I know the transition will be like eating an elephant (ie, one bite at a time) so if it starts out as a small elephant, it will be easier to digest.

[Bedouin]

I would prefer them to implement and polish the basic core functions first, before implementing additional features like a TGP.

 

I agree totally, better to get all the fancy possibilities later, and a bugs free aircraft from start, if i gotta start with gun and rockets fine by me, then i can focus learning the aircraft in detail, before moving on to specialized weaponry.

[Zylon]

The TPOD wouldn´t be of much use on release, since all the guided Weapons, that will benefit of it, won´t come at early access release either.

 

 

The point the TPOD should come to the F16 is, when either LGBs, JDAMs, or JSOWs get implemented.

 

 

All other functions of the Pod are not that big of a use, that would justify diverting work hours to it in a time, where core functions of the plain have to be fleshed out.

[Shimmergloom667]

Yeah, no - I have enough planes with TGPs, this is actually pretty low on my list.

[Wizard_03]

The jet has plenty of functionality with a pod.

[Scofflaw]

Yeah, no - I have enough planes with TGPs, this is actually pretty low on my list.

 

Same here. I'm more eager to learn the fundamentals and to see how it flies.

[=Panther=]

Me personally would like to see the HTS have a higher priority over the TGP.

[elchacal]

I respect every opinion here. But I had a great time with the Hornet from day one and guess what: much of the fun was caused by the lack of a TGP. Don't get me wrong. I love beeing the king of the hill now with a TGP but I was forced to practice so many things I almost forgot with the A-10 and AV8B TGP attacks. Was great fun.

 

I'm looking forward to the Viper's TGP, too and I assume it will come faster than the Hornet's but it won't definitely be a non buy criteria if there wasn't a TGP at release. Sorry with respect.

 

I agree.

[Ignition]

Everyone is like crazy about the TGP, I don't see why?

 

It's not a fundamental part of the aircraft.

 

Its just a tool, if you have another laser supporting unit then you don't need to carry extra weight.

But this is fine for me since I play online and now everyone will carry a tgp instead.

[ghashpl]

Everyone is like crazy about the TGP, I don't see why?

It's not a fundamental part of the aircraft.

 

But you are independant of JTACs and mission scripting. You are 1 men army with TGP.

I just think the TGP should come first before GBU, MAV, JDAM, JSOW etc.

 

With Hornet we've waited 14 months for this and I just hope Viper gets it sooner.

[Yurgon]

But you are independant of JTACs and mission scripting. You are 1 men army with TGP.

 

Maybe that's where the difference in opinion actually comes from.

 

Personally, I don't want to fly DCS aircraft as a one man army. I prefer to fly them in a way that resembles real life employment. And that means working as a team, and working with whatever is available.

 

So a Viper with LGBs and a JTAC with a laser are a perfect match in my book.

 

It's fantastic to have a TGP for the Hornet now. If the Viper initially comes with a TGP, great. If it doesn't, fine by me as well.

 

Edit:

 

Come to think of it, Singleplayer and Multiplayer probably also play a large role here. In SP, the TGP could make a world of difference to overcome the obstacles of the limited environment. In MP, with real humans providing taskings, coords, talk-ons, lasing and so on, the TGP isn't all that important, at least when people actually work together to achieve a common goal. Just like in RL.

Edited August 2, 2019 by Yurgon

[Harlikwin]

Maybe that's where the difference in opinion actually comes from.

 

Personally, I don't want to fly DCS aircraft as a one man army. I prefer to fly them in a way that resembles real life employment. And that means working as a team, and working with whatever is available.

 

So a Viper with LGBs and a JTAC with a laser are a perfect match in my book.

 

It's fantastic to have a TGP for the Hornet now. If the Viper initially comes with a TGP, great. If it doesn't, fine by me as well.

 

Edit:

 

Come to think of it, Singleplayer and Multiplayer probably also play a large role here. In SP, the TGP could make a world of difference to overcome the obstacles of the limited environment. In MP, with real humans providing taskings, coords, talk-ons, lasing and so on, the TGP isn't all that important, at least when people actually work together to achieve a common goal. Just like in RL.

 

 

+1

 

Though have you played online lately, not too much of that cooperation. I selsom see human jtacs.

[Oceandar]

This thread become one of those wish list threads lol. I play along then, I think all Viper sensor should be implemented on day one : A2A & A2G radar completly with tpod (I wish we're gonna get Sniper pod instead of Litening (again) later.

[Harlikwin]

LOL

<bombastic mode>

I demand the f16 be released feature complete into EA on day 1.

</bombastic mode>

[Yurgon]

Though have you played online lately, not too much of that cooperation. I selsom see human jtacs.

 

Public servers? Nope. Might be fun to provide some JTAC service and see how it goes, but my guess is no one would even call on the published freqs. ;)

 

In our squadron, regularly. Both being JTAC and having CAS aircraft, and flying CAS with a human JTAC, is a fantastic experience.

[CarbonFox]

I'd rather they work on the core features along with the A2A systems first for the F-16. The Falcon to me was always a fighter first and a striker second. The opposite of the Hornet if you will. I'm sure the Tpod will be implemented alot sooner in the F-16s lifespan than it was in the DCS F/A-18.

[ChrispyBacon89]

I realise I'm re-opening this a little but, I had a look around and I couldn't seem to find any discussions about the TGP and where it would be mounted on the aircraft (I appreciate this may not be the place to ask this, but I'll ask it anyway). I wasn't concerned as much with the F-16 having a targeting pod, but was more thinking along the lines that if it does come out for the aircraft where will it be mounted. Personally speaking I like doing A2G, and a lot of people want to turn this thing into a bomb cart. I dont really think it would be prudent to wing mount it, but rather if your taking the TGP mount it on the add on "fin" (dunno what else to call it) as shown in the photo? would that not be a far better mounting point that a hard-point on the wing?

[=Panther=]

It can only be a chin mount, no other option.

[TeamMaximus]

I realise I'm re-opening this a little but, I had a look around and I couldn't seem to find any discussions about the TGP and where it would be mounted on the aircraft (I appreciate this may not be the place to ask this, but I'll ask it anyway). I wasn't concerned as much with the F-16 having a targeting pod, but was more thinking along the lines that if it does come out for the aircraft where will it be mounted. Personally speaking I like doing A2G, and a lot of people want to turn this thing into a bomb cart. I dont really think it would be prudent to wing mount it, but rather if your taking the TGP mount it on the add on "fin" (dunno what else to call it) as shown in the photo? would that not be a far better mounting point that a hard-point on the wing?

 

The USAF carries the LITENING pods on the right cheek station on the intake, as your picture indicates. The USMC carries it on the centerline, or left intake station on F/A-18C.

 

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[Wags]

As mentioned earlier, we will start with the Litening, and if time and open source data allow, we'll look into the Sniper.

 

Thanks

[DeathAngel1]

AGM-158 JASSM and Sniper-XR pod

 

It was mentioned in the begining, that we will get it. Now I dont see them in planed list. Is there a chance to see JASSM and Sniper pod in DCS:F-16?

[Wizard_03]

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=4023671#post4023671

 

 

This was the last word on it.