ED Team BIGNEWY Posted December 6, 2020 ED Team Share Posted December 6, 2020 Hi all, I am being asked a lot about my VR settings and how I am getting 90 FPS in VR These are my current settings, in busy multiplayer session it will go down to 45 FPS but is very smooth for me. I am very pleased with the reverb G2 and feels like a big upgrade from my vive cosmos, and the Dell Visor I started VR with. Your settings maybe different and you may like better quality over frame rate, I like higher frame rates and this is what works for me, I hope it helps some of you. Windows 10 Pro x64, NVIDIA MSI RTX 2080Ti VENTUS GP, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 32GB DDR @3000, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Note on the steam resolution I am now using 54% which seems to be the sweet spot for me and my preferences. Update : 2021 settings with windows 11 and a RTX 3090 10 5 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markturner1960 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Hi BN, thanks, what do you have the steam vr home resolution set at please? (your picture is of the app specific setting...)have virtually the same set up and am struggling with high twenties frame times and around 30 FPS.......For me in steam VR, video, on the home setting, 50 % is 2240 x 2192. I have 100% on the per app tab which is the same res as on the home tab. What about the steam VR general tab, what do you have that set at please? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk System specs: PC1 :Scan 3XS Ryzen 5900X, 64GB Corsair veng DDR4 3600, EVGA GTX 3090 Win 10, Quest Pro, Samsung Odyssey G9 Neo monitor. Tir5. PC2 ( Helo) Scan 3XS Intel 9900 K, 32 GB Ram, 2080Ti, 50 inch Phillips monitor F/A-18C: Rhino FFB base TianHang F16 grip, Winwing MP 1, F-18 throttle, TO & Combat panels, MFG crosswind & DFB Aces seat Viper: WinWing MFSSB base with F-16 grip, Winwing F-16 throttle, plus Vipergear ICP. MFG crosswind rudders. Helo ( Apache) set up: Virpil collective with AH64D grip, Cyclic : Rhino FFB base & TM F18 grip, MFG crosswind rudders, Total controls AH64 MFD's, TEDAC Unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markturner1960 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Thank you......I have copied your settings exactly and not getting quite the experience you seem to be? Free flight in Syria instant action, very nice and smooth, but 45 FPS and GPU frame time approx 20ms. CPU is 15 or so....My cockpit looks pretty good, but houses on the ground are doubled at the edges and the Hornet I start alongside is quite sparkly.....Have to say it’s not yet what I was expecting (had a CV1 before)I would say that I am surprised how you are getting 90 FPS as our rigs are almost identical, I must be missing something....currently I have no headroom for tuning in some better visual sharpness......Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk System specs: PC1 :Scan 3XS Ryzen 5900X, 64GB Corsair veng DDR4 3600, EVGA GTX 3090 Win 10, Quest Pro, Samsung Odyssey G9 Neo monitor. Tir5. PC2 ( Helo) Scan 3XS Intel 9900 K, 32 GB Ram, 2080Ti, 50 inch Phillips monitor F/A-18C: Rhino FFB base TianHang F16 grip, Winwing MP 1, F-18 throttle, TO & Combat panels, MFG crosswind & DFB Aces seat Viper: WinWing MFSSB base with F-16 grip, Winwing F-16 throttle, plus Vipergear ICP. MFG crosswind rudders. Helo ( Apache) set up: Virpil collective with AH64D grip, Cyclic : Rhino FFB base & TM F18 grip, MFG crosswind rudders, Total controls AH64 MFD's, TEDAC Unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted December 6, 2020 Author ED Team Share Posted December 6, 2020 Syria earlier today, single player testing in open beta, 91fps. VR is a minefield for settings and configs, I have seen the same hardware machines have much different results, and it is often difficult to pin down. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markturner1960 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 what am I doing wrong then I wonder....? that also looks waaay crisper & clearer than mine System specs: PC1 :Scan 3XS Ryzen 5900X, 64GB Corsair veng DDR4 3600, EVGA GTX 3090 Win 10, Quest Pro, Samsung Odyssey G9 Neo monitor. Tir5. PC2 ( Helo) Scan 3XS Intel 9900 K, 32 GB Ram, 2080Ti, 50 inch Phillips monitor F/A-18C: Rhino FFB base TianHang F16 grip, Winwing MP 1, F-18 throttle, TO & Combat panels, MFG crosswind & DFB Aces seat Viper: WinWing MFSSB base with F-16 grip, Winwing F-16 throttle, plus Vipergear ICP. MFG crosswind rudders. Helo ( Apache) set up: Virpil collective with AH64D grip, Cyclic : Rhino FFB base & TM F18 grip, MFG crosswind rudders, Total controls AH64 MFD's, TEDAC Unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruman Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 11 hours ago, markturner1960 said: what am I doing wrong then I wonder....? that also looks waaay crisper & clearer than mine Have you seen this (Because your signature states you are using a Winwing Throttle): Intel I9 10900k @5.1GHz | MSI MEG Z490 Unify | Corsair Vengeance 64GB - 3600MHz | EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 VPC T-50 Base /w Viper & Hornet Grip | VPC Rotor TCS Pro w/ Hawk-60 Grip | TM TPR LG C2 42" | Reverb G2 | TIR 5 | PointCtrl | OpenKneeboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolhand77 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I reseted my nvdida 3D settings and used Bignewy settings. I went from 60-70fps to 90fps in the F18 free flight mission Syria. Thanks! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted December 7, 2020 Author ED Team Share Posted December 7, 2020 Just now, Coolhand77 said: I reseted my nvdida 3D settings and used Bignewy settings. I went from 60-70fps to 90fps in the F18 free flight mission Syria. Thanks! Nice! enjoy Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulsepowered Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 The steamvr resolution above your native is not an issue/bug. At 100%, that is the resolution the needs in order to render it in your headset’s native resolution. That is why there is no option to choose an exact 2160 when you turn down the % setting because it is working on a different set of computations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolhand77 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I did some MP tonight on the Cold War server, on the ground 60-70fps and in the air 90fps. I have the G1. Magic! Same settings as Bignewy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolhand77 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 This setting was the trick for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Coolhand77 said: This setting was the trick for me. Well now that is certainly interesting, may have to give that a try. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zildac Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Well now that is certainly interesting, may have to give that a try.Confused, an OpenGL setting had an impact on a DX based engine? 12900KF | Maximus Hero Z690 | ASUS 4090 TUF OC | 64GB DDR5 5200 | DCS on 2TB NVMe | WarBRD+Warthog Stick | CM3 | TM TPR's | Varjo Aero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz1004 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Pulsepowered said: The steamvr resolution above your native is not an issue/bug. At 100%, that is the resolution the needs in order to render it in your headset’s native resolution. That is why there is no option to choose an exact 2160 when you turn down the % setting because it is working on a different set of computations. That's incorrect. If you do the math, you'll find that 100% in SteamVR is actually 140% of native resolution (in number of pixels). That is the supersampling Steam deems "appropriate". That is why you can't reverse it exactly to your native resolution. You can't reverse 140% reset to 100% back to original 100% without going into decimal value. There is no different set of computations. Resolution specified is exactly what is being rendered by your GPU and displayed on your headset. It is not a bug but Steam deciding to relabel their own supersampling as 100% is misleading and confusing a lot of people. Plus this varies depending on system and headset. Edited December 8, 2020 by Taz1004 Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted December 8, 2020 Author ED Team Share Posted December 8, 2020 It is very confusing for sure, and it shouldn't need to be, steam could do better here. The important thing to know with this setting in steam is it can have a huge impact on frame rates if set to high. For me at the moment 54% seems to be the sweet spot for keeping the high frame rates I am looking for, and in the G2 and my eyes it still looks great. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody01 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Interesting, I tried your settings Bignewy and mine ran way worse, averaging around 25fps and really stuttery, I stuck it back to where I had it and its smooth and running high 30's - 45fps. A lot of things are radically different too and higher settings for water and AF. Running a G2 on a 2080 Super, 32G RAM, i7 8700 on a M2 SSD. I'm happy where it is at though and at least the G2 is not crashing like the G1 did. So many different things work for so many different systems... The Flying Kiwis - Since ages ago... Find us at https://www.simcentral.co.nz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krupi Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, Taz1004 said: That's incorrect. If you do the math, you'll find that 100% in SteamVR is actually 140% of native resolution (in number of pixels). That is the supersampling Steam deems "appropriate". That is why you can't reverse it exactly to your native resolution. You can't reverse 140% reset to 100% back to original 100% without going into decimal value. There is no different set of computations. Resolution specified is exactly what is being rendered by your GPU and displayed on your headset. It is not a bug but Steam deciding to relabel their own supersampling as 100% is misleading and confusing a lot of people. Plus this varies depending on system and headset. No he is correct, 100% is how it is meant to be used... Thoughts on this, 1:33 mark... 1 1 Windows 10 Pro | ASUS RANGER VIII | i5 6600K @ 4.6GHz| MSI RTX 2060 SUPER | 32GB RAM | Corsair H100i | Corsair Carbide 540 | HP Reverb G2 | MFG crosswind Pedals | Custom Spitfire Cockpit Project IX Cockpit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 I will believe it when I see an official statement by HP themselves on the matter. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz1004 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Krupi said: No he is correct, 100% is how it is meant to be used... Thoughts on this, 1:33 mark... Either you did not understand me or the video. The video is saying exactly what I said and then failed to address the question. Reverb G2 or any other VR headset are supersampled by default. In order to compensate for the barrel distortion from the lens. And 140% is known to be the ideal supersampling rate which is whole another subject I wont get into. But the question is NOT why are they supersampling it. The Question is why is 140% being labeled as 100% which is where the confusion comes from. In most software, recommended value is set as "Default" but they don't change the scale of the value. SteamVR just need to get rid of the % values and just use resolution values like your monitor resolution. The post I responded to as incorrect said: Quote At 100%, that is the resolution the needs in order to render it in your headset’s native resolution. Which is incorrect. Supersampled 140% is NOT the resolution it needs to be rendered at "native" resolution. Supersampled resolution is just that. Supersampled. Edited December 8, 2020 by Taz1004 Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gun Jam Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 4 hours ago, Woody01 said: Interesting, I tried your settings Bignewy and mine ran way worse, averaging around 25fps and really stuttery, I stuck it back to where I had it and its smooth and running high 30's - 45fps. A lot of things are radically different too and higher settings for water and AF. Running a G2 on a 2080 Super, 32G RAM, i7 8700 on a M2 SSD. I'm happy where it is at though and at least the G2 is not crashing like the G1 did. So many different things work for so many different systems... I encountered the same problem. Make sure to do a full restart of the whole mess after you change the settings. I found that after restart it had acceptable FPS nothing like stated but my system a bit different. In my case it made a small improvement maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markturner1960 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) So just to clarify, as it’s somewhat confusing.......what is the correct setting in steam VR and the correct one for the app? Is it 48 or 50 % for the first and then 100% in the app, which is effectively the same as in the first setting as at 100% it’s multiplying by 1 and then if want to increase the clarity, you increase the percentage from 100 to say 120%in the app specific drop down, to increase by 20%? Have I got that right? in the video linked above, he is talking about the steam VR setting, yes? By this I mean the one that appears in general tab and also in video. There is then a separate slider for the specific app which is the multiplier setting, correct? if he is correct, then it’s correct to set this first setting at 100% ? This gives me very poor performance- And I have a beast rig, this can’t be right...... I tried removing the winwing lines in my export .lua, noticed a small improvement, but not much. Using 50% and 120%, I am getting around 45 FPS and frame times around 18 GPU and 13 CPU.....which is ok, but way lower than others with similar kit and my visuals are not great in terms of clarity......... what about settings in WMR? Edited December 8, 2020 by markturner1960 System specs: PC1 :Scan 3XS Ryzen 5900X, 64GB Corsair veng DDR4 3600, EVGA GTX 3090 Win 10, Quest Pro, Samsung Odyssey G9 Neo monitor. Tir5. PC2 ( Helo) Scan 3XS Intel 9900 K, 32 GB Ram, 2080Ti, 50 inch Phillips monitor F/A-18C: Rhino FFB base TianHang F16 grip, Winwing MP 1, F-18 throttle, TO & Combat panels, MFG crosswind & DFB Aces seat Viper: WinWing MFSSB base with F-16 grip, Winwing F-16 throttle, plus Vipergear ICP. MFG crosswind rudders. Helo ( Apache) set up: Virpil collective with AH64D grip, Cyclic : Rhino FFB base & TM F18 grip, MFG crosswind rudders, Total controls AH64 MFD's, TEDAC Unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted December 8, 2020 Author ED Team Share Posted December 8, 2020 What does it matter really? if you set it lower, get amazing frame rates and still get great clarity from the headset isnt the lower setting the best option? Seems crazy to me to crank it to 100% or over, then expect good frame rates. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razalom Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 DCS doesnt appear for me in the Steam VR settings. I guess thats because i dont have the steam version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted December 8, 2020 Author ED Team Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, razalom said: DCS doesnt appear for me in the Steam VR settings. I guess thats because i dont have the steam version. it should show in the video tab in steamVR under applications once DCS is running Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 you can also add the non steam version of the game to steam and then add that to the VR library so it always does show up, both in the Steam VR graphics settings and the Steam VR menu 1 SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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