resolved 2.7.0.4625 Open Beta crash at second mission load

[RogSimu]

You make us dream there, because it's getting worse and worse, no way to do more than 2 flights without having the crash, I drop the beta for the moment and switch to stable 2.5, there at least we can play without risk a heart attack in front of your screen ....

[divinee]

I'm using english version and i've been having those crashes occasionally. After installing latest hotfix drivers from nvidia(466.55), i got rid of that crashing at least temporarily. I haven't been able to reproduce that crash since yet but time will tell. Also at the same time i got rid off the wmr for steamvr beta crashing.

Edited May 27, 2021 by divinee

[wernst]

14 minutes ago, divinee said:

I'm using english version and i been having those crashes occasionally. After installing latest hotfix drivers from nvidia(466.55), i got rid of that crashing at least temporarily. I haven't been able to reproduce that crash since yet but time will tell. Also at the same time i got rid off the wmr for steamvr beta crashing.

 

I made the same experience. After all most recent Nvidia driver updates the crashes have gone initially, but only for a short time.

I assume that the updates are deleting some graphic settings and memory presets, which will then be "filled" again until the next crashes occur.

I'm also at 466.55 and having the same "good old" crashes.

[deeleyer]

Spanish version here and crashing like there's no tomorrow (I mean, second mission crash)

Found if I make one mission with one plane, then another with another plane, I can repeat missions with same plane with no crash more times than not, but I suppose it's one dice roll solution more, like the others...

Edited May 27, 2021 by deeleyer

[BIGNEWY]

We have a patch today with some fixes, there maybe one fix related to the second mission crash, but we do not think it is the full fix. 

 

We continue to look at the issue, thank you for all of your data and observations in this thread.

[BuzzLine]

@BIGNEWY : if you want to send over a fully instrumented build so I can crash it and send you back detailed stack traces and log trails, I'll be happy to help. 

 

 

[streaker]

On 5/24/2021 at 2:59 PM, Ironhand said:

This is going to be a strange suggestion but I'm going to toss this out. I figure, what the hell, we're trying everything including throwing salt over our left shoulder while facing the cardinal directions...

 

Create an empty mission in the ME. Just select a map and save the result. "Fly" it. Close out the mission. Since doing that, I haven't had a single crash with all my normal settings. I did that yesterday as part of a test and the crashes which were happening frequently have stopped. I was going to wait a few days to see if things held. But I figure several people trying that would provide the answer sooner.

Well WTF!

 

This worked, I doing refuel training and have to start over and over again. This solved it. Makes no sense to me but it works

[MAXsenna]

Not at my computer, both from memory.
Old computer from May 2013
English Windows 8.0 Enterprise, upgraded to 8.1 upgraded to latest Windows 10, "Downgraded" to Pro by changing serial
3960K CPU OC to 3.7GHz, 2xTitans not OC
32GB Ram, Windows handles page file on C which is 2X840 500GB in stripe. DCS on D 4x840 500GB in stripe.
Haven't had one single crash on 2.7, now latest 2.7.1, unless I OC GPUs.
So this is a really strange issue for you guys.
I never touch ME, usually fly user missions, ED missions, IA, training and campaigns.
Rarely fly the same missions twice in a row though.
Lots of mods, haven't even had the Frenchpack issue. And not on the latest version of that one either.

Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk

[shrimpy_dikdik]

50 minutes ago, streaker said:

Well WTF!

 

This worked, I doing refuel training and have to start over and over again. This solved it. Makes no sense to me but it works

Seems to have worked for me too. From 100% 2nd mission or usually in my case 2nd spawn during multiplayer crash to none. The windows 8 compatibility mode solution also worked but increased load times and vr shaking during multiplayer menus. 

Edited May 27, 2021 by shrimpy_dikdik

[Flia]

14 minutes ago, shrimpy_dikdik said:

Seems to have worked for me too. From 100% 2nd mission or usually in my case 2nd spawn during multiplayer crash to none. The windows 8 compatibility mode solution also worked but increased load times and vr shaking during multiplayer menus. 

 

This sulution worked for me for few hours only. Afer that crasehs started again as always.

[Baz000]

I took this video to show what happens to me, but I was sometimes able to load 13 missions for example... However, now I am experiencing a new crash even just on 1st mission load after playing inside the mission for a while watching the AI fight in the external views.

 

 

[Tanuki44]

I had the same crash, after a setting modification.

 

Usually I think DCS restarts after a system setting change ...

 

In this case, it did not restart ... 

 

Not sure that it's the same cause as that of the 2nd mission

 

 

 

 

Edited May 27, 2021 by Tanuki44

[wowbagger]

3 minutes ago, Tanuki44 said:

...Usually I think DCS restarts after a system setting change ...

 I've noticed that since 2.7 things like changing resolution or FullScreen Enabled still cause the game to exit. However, unlike before 2.7 when the game would restart to apply the changes, mine now never restarts, it just exits and I have to restart manually.   Not sure if this is insignificant in anyway.

[Tanuki44]

Let's wait the patch for test with new base 

[scoobie]

For the record: also for me Win8 compatibility mode seems to prevent 2nd mission load crash. Big thanks for the idea! (I'd never think of that myself.)
It's been like 4 or 5 days w/o crashes now, so I hope it's long enough to conclude it works. It certainly seems long enough for me - I was having these crashes every day or every other day at best.
No other methods given here really worked on my PC (of those given prior to these 4-5 days, I haven't tried anything else since then).

 

PS. Oh, and yes - as stated above, DCS shuts down long in Win8 comp. mode. First GUI disappears, but DCS process remains running for something like 20-30 seconds more perhaps. I don't really care about it, but I just wanted to point out it happens on my PC as well.

 

[DOBBO45]

How do i get todays patch , usually i get a message on DCS start up to install but not so atm? is it released at different times re region I'm in the UK, i have tried via the "update DCS" but says i am on latest version 2.7.1.6430 and am up to date!

Sorted 15.30 hrs

Edited May 27, 2021 by DOBBO45
Added info

[Flia]

So far so good with todays hotfix patch. Not second load crash yet 

[Ironhand]

No 2nd mission crash after updating. First mission crash instead. First time ever for that.

 

I'll try it again later after cleaning out folders and whatnot.

Edited May 27, 2021 by Ironhand

[casserole]

This is worth a try guys:

No more crashes after relocating your "Missions" Folder in Saved Games/DCS.openbeta by doing this

- Copy the Mission folder

- Paste it somewhere else (I pasted it in Saved Games at the root).

- Delete all your missions in the "Missions" folder at the default location, as they are now saved at the new location.

Now you won't have crashes anymore!

- If you want to load one of those relocated missions, you need to navigate to it by double clicking the "folder.."  icon.

Loading your personal missions won't generate the infamous 2nd mission crash.

 

It worked for me 100 %, not 80, not 90 not 99%, but 100% for the past FEW (I know it is too soon to say) hours. (hehe, sounds like a commercial)

Now while writing this, I noticed that a new update came online, maybe it fixed all the crashes now.

So my suggestion is maybe obsolete.

But anyhow, if it isn't, this may help.

Of course there is the 48 hours state of grace where all changes seem to work. Maybe my work around is also doomed to fail, but who knows....

Having said this lets try out this new update.

 

Edited May 27, 2021 by casserole

[scoobie]

My PC seems to like this crash, so it's easy for me:
1. Turned off Win8 compatibility, because dcs_updater was complaining.
2. Updated to 2.7.1.6709.
3. 2nd mission load crashes immediately  (I'm testing other things a bit today and reloading missions quickly)
4. Turned on Win8 comp. mode again, no more crashes (since this is my cure, I assume it still simply "works").

 

As a side note - yesterday I upgraded to 32 GB RAM and moved DCS to a brand spanking new SATA SSD (from an HDD for masochists) - it doesn't matter a rat's butt as far as this crash is concerned. On my PC of course.

[PeevishMonkey]

Now (after the latest update) game crash is exactly after press "ESC". 

Edited May 27, 2021 by PeevishMonkey

[Fra298]

21 minutes ago, PeevishMonkey said:

Now (after the latest update) game crash is exactly after press "ESC". 

 

 

    Happened to me also. I just had to decrease FXAA from 16x to 8x and no more crash.

 

As a side note, it seems Metashaders2 (I started with a fresh dcs saved games folder) folder is empty. Is this ok?

 

Edit : Had to decrease again FXAA to avoid crash on syria map.

Edited May 27, 2021 by Fra298

[Gierasimov]

10 minutes ago, PeevishMonkey said:

Now (after the latest update) game crash is exactly after press "ESC". 

 

Same here unfortunately

[Ironhand]

31 minutes ago, Fra298 said:

As a side note, it seems Metashaders2 (I started with a fresh dcs saved games folder) folder is empty. Is this ok?

 

It seems to normally be empty now. I just see it populate every once in awhile for some reason. Don't see an obvious connection as to why it populates when it does.

 

OK. After clearing FXO, TEMP/DCS, etc, I restarted the sim and flew two quick test mission without a problem. Fixed? Not fixed? Too soon to tell. I'll know more within roughly 40 hours or so, if things have improved.

31 minutes ago, Gierasimov said:

Same here unfortunately

 

Did you delete the FXO and TEMP/DCS... folders? I had a first mission issue with my first start after the update. I was in a hurry and didn't clean those out.

[Gierasimov]

3 minutes ago, Ironhand said:

 

It seems to normally be empty now. I just see it populate every once in awhile for some reason. Don't see an obvious connection as to why it populates when it does.

 

OK. After clearing FXO, TEMP/DCS, etc, I restarted the sim and flew two quick test mission without a problem. Fixed? Not fixed? Too soon to tell. I'll know more within roughly 40 hours or so, if things have improved.

 

Did you delete the FXO and TEMP/DCS... folders? I had a first mission issue with my first start after the update. I was in a hurry and didn't clean those out.

I did not and never done in the past. Obviously had crashes in the past, but previous beta version works well for now. I may test your approach later tonight.