Dannyvandelft Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 How do you go back from a forward flight trim back to a neutral trim for hover/landing? Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimcarrel Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 "force trim release" is the button your looking for. 1 Win 10 64 bit Intel I-7 7700K 32GB Ram Nvidia Geforce GTX 1060 6gig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekrc Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, jimcarrel said: "force trim release" is the button your looking for. I dont see this binding anywhere. trim only returns the mode hat and the cage knob for the adi. there is no trim release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devrim Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Dannyvandelft said: How do you go back from a forward flight trim back to a neutral trim for hover/landing? I think you're looking for Trimm Reset. I couldn't figure it out, yet. Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 Super SuprimX | Corsair V. 32GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | Saitek X-55 Rhino & Rudder | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Low Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Maybe FMC Release - Depress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgraham Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 There is no 'recenter' you have to move the controls back to center (use right control + enter) and trim. The FMC Release will dis-engage all of your Stability controls. 1 i7 13700k, 64gb DDR5, Warthog HOTAS, HP Reverb G2 VR, win 11, RTX 3070 TGW Dedicated Server Admin, Australian PVE/PVP gameplay. (taskgroupwarrior.info/2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandMan23 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 So, after much trial and error with Thrustmaster joystick, throttle and pedal curves I can hover, transition and maintained trimmed flight using ATTHOLD, but I cannot get the ALTHOLD to engage. What am I missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pii Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 25 minutes ago, SandMan23 said: So, after much trial and error with Thrustmaster joystick, throttle and pedal curves I can hover, transition and maintained trimmed flight using ATTHOLD, but I cannot get the ALTHOLD to engage. What am I missing? How do you turn on ATTHOLD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tj1376 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 57 minutes ago, SandMan23 said: So, after much trial and error with Thrustmaster joystick, throttle and pedal curves I can hover, transition and maintained trimmed flight using ATTHOLD, but I cannot get the ALTHOLD to engage. What am I missing? Can confirm that I cant get althold to engage either, and the manual makes no mention of parameters to maintain to get it to engage. Im holding a pretty steady hover, wont engage. Im holding a pretty accurate attitude, trimmed out and not losing or gaining any altitude at speed and it will not engage. We must be missing something! As one of my friends said, ED needs to pay Chuck to build his guides into their manuals. Their manuals are great for 'how does a system work' but are not the best at explaining how you actually use said system. Althold is a prime example. TJ 33 minutes ago, pii said: How do you turn on ATTHOLD? Page 63 of the quick start manual. Attitude hold is force trim left (althold is force trim right) TJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 I'm missing the "Rudder Trimmer" special option. Having the actual pedals unsynced from the in-sim pedals totally hurts my muscle memory, and building that. I'm more or less resigned from trimming at all until we'll get this... I'd love to have FFB pedals at some point anyway, but until then I can live with the Mi-24 method, which is "trimming" via the Z and X keys if required (pressing both resets). Also considering getting the damper mod for my pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidrbarnette Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Altitude hold isn’t implemented yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pii Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Tj1376 said: Can confirm that I cant get althold to engage either, and the manual makes no mention of parameters to maintain to get it to engage. Im holding a pretty steady hover, wont engage. Im holding a pretty accurate attitude, trimmed out and not losing or gaining any altitude at speed and it will not engage. We must be missing something! As one of my friends said, ED needs to pay Chuck to build his guides into their manuals. Their manuals are great for 'how does a system work' but are not the best at explaining how you actually use said system. Althold is a prime example. TJ Page 63 of the quick start manual. Attitude hold is force trim left (althold is force trim right) TJ Thanks, I'm having a heck of a time taking off hoping they will help Edited March 18, 2022 by pii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) I find that in Settings -> Special, there are 2 trimmer settings. The default is for FFB, which I do not use. I would see if putting it to "Central Position" works or not. (Update) Using the mode as shown below, I press and hold the "Release / Forward" button, the trim setting moves with both the cyclic and the rudder. When I release the button, both trims stay the position at the release. To reset it, press and hold the "Release / Forward" again, move both back to "center" manually. Edited March 18, 2022 by VFGiPJP VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants -- this is how I fly. We do not fly at treetop height, we fly between trees(TM) YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc9BDi-STaqgWsjNiHbW0fA My simple missions: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/284071-vr-flight-guy-in-pj-pants-simple-missions/ The contents of DCS World are so overwhelming to me: so many things to try, so many things to revisit. For now, whining about new products being late does not make much sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyvandelft Posted March 18, 2022 Author Share Posted March 18, 2022 We need a button we can bind that centers trim to where it was before take-off. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor18 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 If you release your joystick back to center and press Trimm hat up momentarily, it does just that, resets trimm to center (unless you have a FFB joy with "no center", I guess?...). If there is no such button / function like that IRL, why would we need an extra button for that in the sim? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 hour ago, VFGiPJP said: I find that in Settings -> Special, there are 2 trimmer settings. The default is for FFB, which I do not use. I would see if putting it to "Central Position" works or not. Just noticed the second setting is for pedals, I'll try the other settings, but I guess none of them actually disables it. The thing is with FFB it won't wait until you return to center, so basically any trimming while flying with boot applied will make the thing yaw back and forth violently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 4 hours ago, Eldur said: I'm missing the "Rudder Trimmer" special option. Having the actual pedals unsynced from the in-sim pedals totally hurts my muscle memory, and building that. I'm more or less resigned from trimming at all until we'll get this... I'd love to have FFB pedals at some point anyway, but until then I can live with the Mi-24 method, which is "trimming" via the Z and X keys if required (pressing both resets). Also considering getting the damper mod for my pedals. I switched my rudder trim to "pedals without spring and ffb" under the special options tab of the ah64 because i had the same problem, fighting the rudder trim. With that change the ah64 feels much better, just like any other heli in dcs, makes hovering or slow operations very easy for me again. 1 Modules: KA-50, A-10C, FC3, UH-1H, MI-8MTV2, CA, MIG-21bis, FW-190D9, Bf-109K4, F-86F, MIG-15bis, M-2000C, SA342 Gazelle, AJS-37 Viggen, F/A-18C, F-14, C-101, FW-190A8, F-16C, F-5E, JF-17, SC, Mi-24P Hind, AH-64D Apache, Mirage F1, F-4E Phantom II System: Win 11 Pro 64bit, Ryzen 3800X, 32gb RAM DDR4-3200, PowerColor Radeon RX 6900XT Red Devil ,1 x Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe, 2 x Samsung SSD 2TB + 1TB SATA, MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals - VIRPIL T-50CM and VIRPIL MongoosT-50 Throttle - HP Reverg G2, using only the latest Open Beta, DCS settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiob Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, unknown said: I switched my rudder trim to "pedals without spring and ffb" under the special options tab of the ah64 because i had the same problem, fighting the rudder trim. With that change the ah64 feels much better, just like any other heli in dcs, makes hovering or slow operations very easy for me again. This! It basically disables the pedal trim altogether. It's just confusing, because it "shows" the trimmed position with a red X on the controls overlay still. 1 "Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoirtel Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Just now, Hiob said: This! It basically disables the pedal trim altogether. It's just confusing, because it "shows" the trimmed position with a red X on the controls overlay still. Is this for pedals without a spring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiob Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) Just now, Hoirtel said: Is this for pedals without a spring? Yes. You can use it for springed ones as well though. Edited March 18, 2022 by Hiob 1 "Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor18 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Hiob said: This! It basically disables the pedal trim altogether. It's just confusing, because it "shows" the trimmed position with a red X on the controls overlay still. I use the same, but it doesn't disables my pedal trim. When flicking Trim hat up, need to recenter pedal too. Will check again tough... Edited March 18, 2022 by Razor18 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshallman Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Im happy with this using warthog system (joystick ext) Special options AH64 Cyclic trimmer - Central Position trimmer mode Pedals trimmer mode - Pedals without springs and FFB (MFG Xwind) Controls setting using TMS switch on joystick Force trim/hold mode - AL right Button 8 Force trim/hold mode - AT left Button 10 Force trim/hold mode - D down Button 7 Force trim/hold mode - U up Button 9 Bring up red box for controls Move stick into pos pull aft on tms centre and trim is set. Works for me Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700K CPU @ 3.80GHz Turbo 5.1 GHz, Asus Prime Motherboard B460M-A, Nvidia Geoforce RTX4090, 64gB Corsair Vengeance Pro DDR 3600Mhz,Windows 10 Pro Reverb G2V2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiob Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Razor18 said: I use the same, but it doesn't disables my pedal trim. When flicking Trim hat up, need to recenter pedal too. Will check again tough... What are you using as an Input? I'm always referring to physical pedals as an input device. With the "NO Spring, no FFB" option. The "Rudder" of the 64 will always be where your physical controls are. So without Springs, they stay put, with springs they return to center if released. "Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, Razor18 said: I use the same, but it doesn't disables my pedal trim. When flicking Trim hat up, need to recenter pedal too. Will check again tough... That sounds like the central trimmer option. Modules: KA-50, A-10C, FC3, UH-1H, MI-8MTV2, CA, MIG-21bis, FW-190D9, Bf-109K4, F-86F, MIG-15bis, M-2000C, SA342 Gazelle, AJS-37 Viggen, F/A-18C, F-14, C-101, FW-190A8, F-16C, F-5E, JF-17, SC, Mi-24P Hind, AH-64D Apache, Mirage F1, F-4E Phantom II System: Win 11 Pro 64bit, Ryzen 3800X, 32gb RAM DDR4-3200, PowerColor Radeon RX 6900XT Red Devil ,1 x Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe, 2 x Samsung SSD 2TB + 1TB SATA, MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals - VIRPIL T-50CM and VIRPIL MongoosT-50 Throttle - HP Reverg G2, using only the latest Open Beta, DCS settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor18 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 THanks for correction, maybe I dont remember my choice correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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