now available ARC-210 Radio Status

[NineLine]

4 hours ago, A10Yoda said:

Now that Wags let the cat out of the bag, can whoever deleted my post put it back so I can publicly wish you a timely "Merry Christmas?"

You said you loved me in it, no doubt someone was jealous

[BuzzU]

What can we expect when we get the 210 radio? Will it take the place of one or two radios we have now or will we have 4 radios we'll have to use?

The Hornet uses the 210 radio. It has two but I assume it's to get more presets. If the Hornet only needs the 210 radio. Why can't the Hog just use the 210 radio?

[icemaker]

It will take only one of VHF radios (AM) you still have One VHF and the UHF radio.

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[Wags]

One ARC-210 will be added, RT1, with UHF and VHF functions and related HUD, UFC, STAT page, and COMM changes. This will replace one of the VHF radios.

We still need to add the STAT page and UFC function. Once those are done after the team return from holiday, it will enter internal testing.

Later, after initial release, we'll add the SATCOM functions.

Kind regards,

Wags

 

[BuzzU]

Ok, thanks.

[icemaker]

Thanks @Wags 

Does the L16 Datalink will be available to comunicate with other airframes?

[ASAP]

Is there any plans to program it so we can use RT2 as the aft radio using the same ARC-210 control head (like at least some of the real jets).

3 hours ago, Wags said:

One ARC-210 will be added, RT1, with UHF and VHF functions and related HUD, UFC, STAT page, and COMM changes. This will replace one of the VHF radios.

We still need to add the STAT page and UFC function. Once those are done after the team return from holiday, it will enter internal testing.

 

Is there any plan to add the second ARC-210, RT2 (obviously using the one control head for both of them, to replace the aft radio like the real world jets?

[Snoopy]

4 hours ago, ASAP said:

Is there any plans to program it so we can use RT2 as the aft radio using the same ARC-210 control head (like at least some of the real jets).

Is there any plan to add the second ARC-210, RT2 (obviously using the one control head for both of them, to replace the aft radio like the real world jets?

Not all real world jets have the FM radio removed even with dual ARC-210s

[ASAP]

 I know not all the fleet has dual ARC-210. Pretty sure there is no A-10 with four radios (I’m not counting the LARS system). My understanding is it’s either the ARC-210 in the front and the old FM in the aft radio or front and aft are both ARC-210.  If you have dual ARC-210s and the old FM radio how does one control all of them?

[nessuno0505]

The real news in the last newsletter is that, differently to things previously stated, the arc210 will not be the last item planned for the a-10c II: following f/a-18 and f-16, a dtc and a pilot body are also planned for the a-10c II.

Maybe all of the above is slightly off-topic, but It worths to be mentioned IMHO.

[BuzzU]

A pilot body really helps immersion. I can't stand looking down and seeing an empty seat.

[Hive]

Please not too much off-topic. We know this thread will be closed otherwise.

I am just happy to hear that there is progress. I am very curious how much the new radio will change gameplay. Using the old radios in VR is a pain as they are very hard to reach and I do not like the preset functions where you have no indication what frequency is behind each preset number. As far as I understand that will be better with the new display and MFCD page. On the other hand I hope it won't cause errors in campaigns where you have missions with certain presets that you need to dial in.

Edited January 13, 2023 by Hive

[Thump]

On 1/13/2023 at 10:46 AM, nessuno0505 said:

The real news in the last newsletter is that, differently to things previously stated, the arc210 will not be the last item planned for the a-10c II: following f/a-18 and f-16, a dtc and a pilot body are also planned for the a-10c II.

Maybe all of the above is slightly off-topic, but It worths to be mentioned IMHO.

 

Do not expect the DTC. They said they are considering it which means a 10% chance to occur at all, and if it does, it will be in about 5 years time based on current pacing.  Set the personal expectation that the module is done (as said by Wagner himself) once the ARC-210 releases.

[hotrod525]

23 minutes ago, Thump said:

 

Do not expect the DTC. They said they are considering it which means a 10% chance to occur at all, and if it does, it will be in about 5 years time based on current pacing.  Set the personal expectation that the module is done (as said by Wagner himself) once the ARC-210 releases.

 

According to the latest news,

"As with the Hornet and Viper, we also plan to add DTC and Link 16 functions to the A-10C II, but this effort will not start until after 2023 given the amount of DTC work that must first happen with the Hornet and Viper. Also, after the Hornet and Viper efforts, we’d like to add a cockpit view pilot."

We will someday have it, someday.

[Thump]

7 minutes ago, hotrod525 said:

 

According to the latest news,

"As with the Hornet and Viper, we also plan to add DTC and Link 16 functions to the A-10C II, but this effort will not start until after 2023 given the amount of DTC work that must first happen with the Hornet and Viper. Also, after the Hornet and Viper efforts, we’d like to add a cockpit view pilot."

We will someday have it, someday.

"To add DTC functionality to the A-10C II, we are also considering an update to the TADS that would entail changes to the TDL and CHG SET pages. This would allow both SADL and Link 16 data through a gateway. However, this is not a promise and something that would only come after DTC functions for the Viper, Hornet, and AH-64D."

 

From Wagner himself. It is not a promise.  This is why I wish they would not say crap like this.  It causes confusion and unrealistic expectations. 

Edited January 15, 2023 by Thump

[Snoopy]

19 hours ago, Thump said:

"To add DTC functionality to the A-10C II, we are also considering an update to the TADS that would entail changes to the TDL and CHG SET pages. This would allow both SADL and Link 16 data through a gateway. However, this is not a promise and something that would only come after DTC functions for the Viper, Hornet, and AH-64D."

 

From Wagner himself. It is not a promise.  This is why I wish they would not say crap like this.  It causes confusion and unrealistic expectations. 

 

Agreed…same thing with the long 184 and additional TAD symbology was mentioned in a newsletter two years ago. 

[NineLine]

Guys this thread is on the ARC-210, lets please keep it on topic. As far as the other stuff, we have said what we have said on it, we know you guys want all this, and it will most likely happen but we are not going to over promise as we do not know how things will go long term. On the AN/ALQ-184 Long Pod, it was requested by one of the SME's we chat with (never a feature for the A-10C II that I know of) and we said that we would do it, its just not a high priority item, but it will happen. Thanks. 

[A10Yoda]

On 1/15/2023 at 8:00 PM, NineLine said:

Guys this thread is on the ARC-210, lets please keep it on topic. As far as the other stuff, we have said what we have said on it, we know you guys want all this, and it will most likely happen but we are not going to over promise as we do not know how things will go long term. On the AN/ALQ-184 Long Pod, it was requested by one of the SME's we chat with (never a feature for the A-10C II that I know of) and we said that we would do it, its just not a high priority item, but it will happen. Thanks. 

...but but... the 210 is digital and then there's the thing it does where it does the thing with the other digital thing in the other digital aircraft which is a thing for the TAD.. 

 

 

[Jascha]

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Note: It is our plan to release ARC-210 radio with UHF and VHF functions in the February 2023 update.

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[BuzzU]

When we get the new radio. Will it mess up all the campaigns and missions made for the old radios?

[Yurgon]

10 hours ago, BuzzU said:

When we get the new radio. Will it mess up all the campaigns and missions made for the old radios?

Probably not. Missions that actually use radio transmissions can use triggers and triggered actions to set specific frequencies, but they don't access specific radios (as far as I'm aware).

The ARC-210 should cover the frequency ranges of all radios we already have in the A-10C, so we're not going to lose any capacity in that regard - in fact we gain more flexibility with it.

In all likelihood, old missions will be fine when the ARC-210 drops.

[BuzzU]

I hope you're right. I started to think about it when I read Baltic say he had to redo a campaign because the radios got changed.

[Northstar98]

Incredibly happy there's progress on the AN/ARC-210

[BuzzU]

Yurgon...............Here's that post by Baltic. Last post by him in this thread.

 

 

[Yurgon]

2 hours ago, BuzzU said:

I hope you're right. I started to think about it when I read Baltic say he had to redo a campaign because the radios got changed.

Never underestimate ED's power to change things under the hood.

I'm not sure what exactly Baltic Dragon had to change; I think he did something a bit funky in order to get the radios to work the desired way in that campaign, and then an internal change to the way the radios work broke lots of radio comms there.

But hopefully the ARC-210 won't introduce any such changes or problems.