OH-6A by Tobsen and Eightball

[Hammer1-1]

Question about the M134....this variant seems to spray all over the place, whats the difference between this M134 and the M134 on the UH-1H? I havent tried the M134 on the SA342 so not sure how it compares against that one, but I would assume its similar to the Huey.

Edited August 12, 2024 by Hammer1-1

[Timex3]

Hello all. I'm just curious to see if Version 1.3 has fixed the rear rotal blades that don't spin while being used as an AI Aircraft.

Thank you,

Timex 3

[GrEaSeLiTeNiN]

3 hours ago, Timex3 said:

Hello all. I'm just curious to see if Version 1.3 has fixed the rear rotal blades that don't spin while being used as an AI Aircraft.

Thank you,

Timex 3

No, not fixed.

(Also, when on the ground, the AI's skids will sink into the ground on the right side causing the aircraft to rollover and explode. Reported earlier.)

Edited August 13, 2024 by GrEaSeLiTeNiN

[Timex3]

1 hour ago, GrEaSeLiTeNiN said:

No, not fixed.

(Also, when on the ground, the AI's skids will sink into the ground on the right side causing the aircraft to rollover and explode. Reported earlier.)

 

Thanks GrEaSeLiTeNiN. I love the OH-6A for AI RECON, but sadly the tail rotor will not spin! I hope this issue is fixed sometime soon!

Timex 3

[tobi]

32 minutes ago, Timex3 said:

Thanks GrEaSeLiTeNiN. I love the OH-6A for AI RECON, but sadly the tail rotor will not spin! I hope this issue is fixed sometime soon!

Timex 3

AI is prio zero at the moment

[Scarecrow84]

On 8/10/2024 at 2:48 PM, tobi said:

OH-6A version 1.3:

 

Flightmodel improvements:

• Improved stability due to tuned enginedynamics
• Tuned skid friction, dynamic roll over is a thing now
• Landings on water are possible if floaters are equipped. Waves cannot be taken into account til now.

 

 

Can anybody explain what the first bullet point here means? I don't understand.

I haven't tried 1.3 mod yet...are the FM changes significant?

[Slippa]

I don’t know what’s been done technically, Tobi’s the man for that one but I can tell you that the latest version is a better, more stable ride than the first.

[tobi]

37 minutes ago, Scarecrow84 said:

Can anybody explain what the first bullet point here means? I don't understand.

I haven't tried 1.3 mod yet...are the FM changes significant?

Best is to try it

38 minutes ago, Scarecrow84 said:

Can anybody explain what the first bullet point here means? I don't understand.

I haven't tried 1.3 mod yet...are the FM changes significant?

I am still "waiting" for the details what you don't like.

[Hawkeye60]

Quote

When you hire a big game fishing heli charter, but realize you've bitten off more than you can chew! (...or is that the other way around?!)

Just as well you brought along your trusty M60 machine gun, for just such cases!

The MEG awaits your helicopter!

 

[ggrewe]

On 8/10/2024 at 8:48 PM, tobi said:

OH-6A version 1.3 is available now.

https://github.com/tobi-be/DCS-OH-6A/releases/tag/v1.3

 

Flightmodel improvements:

• Improved stability due to tuned enginedynamics
• Tuned skid friction, dynamic roll over is a thing now
• Landings on water are possible if floaters are equipped. Waves cannot be taken into account til now.

New features:

• Pedal Trim Option
• Trim Fade in with optional fade speed, see special options
• Camera man (tracks enemies)
• Trim release when button is released (until then ffb is force less)
• ADF (only in ME predefined beacons work)
• Floaters and landing on water
• Rotorbrake (fictional), no default key set, you need to assign a key
• Added generic civilian liveries from playgroundrelease

Bugfixes:

• Gunner export is no longer active if player is not in oh-6
• IAS should not indicate sideways speed
• Collective Button not working
• FFB <-> trim issues fixed
• Rocket mounts display mp sync
• Weird flapping in mp
• No rain on roof
• Raindrops in compass
• Renamed 2nd trim option
• Missing parts of rotor added
• Collective Button not working

 

@tobi Thanks so much for update on this great mod

@eight-ball Thanks for your Vietnam pack, but was very pleasantly surprised to find the extra Playground Pack included in the updated github.

Includes some car racing goodies & climbing (close to my heart as a climber)

I did a couple of extra liveries to add your Team Alfa Romeo livery, Team Martini & Team Jagermeister

Alfa Romeo Team Jagermeister Team Martini Liveries

I used your climber to simulate some of my unfortunate chopper rescue scenarios in real life.

My real life chopper rescues after climbing accidents

Free Solo Climbing Table Mountain, Cape Town, South Africa

[Scarecrow84]

On 8/13/2024 at 5:51 AM, tobi said:

Best is to try it

I am still "waiting" for the details what you don't like.

I downloaded and flew the 1.3 version this morning.

It seems like an improvement to me.

It might just be me, but the oscillations (I think it was mostly yaw) seem improved.

I went back and forth between oh6 and ah6 mods to try to figure out what exactly felt different. Honestly, they seem pretty close now.

One thing I noticed, when doing ~500fpm descending turns in the ah6, cyclic is "counter steering" (slight right cyclic in left hand turn). With the oh6, it was slight left cyclic for left hand descending turn.

Thanks for the update, will have to try out the float version.

[tobi]

18 minutes ago, Scarecrow84 said:

I downloaded and flew the 1.3 version this morning.

It seems like an improvement to me.

It might just be me, but the oscillations (I think it was mostly yaw) seem improved.

I went back and forth between oh6 and ah6 mods to try to figure out what exactly felt different. Honestly, they seem pretty close now.

One thing I noticed, when doing ~500fpm descending turns in the ah6, cyclic is "counter steering" (slight right cyclic in left hand turn). With the oh6, it was slight left cyclic for left hand descending turn.

Thanks for the update, will have to try out the float version.

Happy that you don't need significant changes anymore.
This update only changed the behavior of the governor. It reacts slower on rpm deviations. This might slow down the yaw reactions on torque changes but should not affect cyclic control directly. (except need of correction of coupled inputs).

The AH-6 is a linearized FM. It calculates forces and moments on a linear approximation based only on forward speed, downward speed, pitch rate, sideways speed, roll rate, yaw rate, collective input, pitch input, roll input  and pedal input for different speeds. I am not sure how much reference it is in "special" situations since a helicopter is a non linear system by nature.

 

[tobi]

On 8/12/2024 at 9:57 PM, Hammer1-1 said:

Question about the M134....this variant seems to spray all over the place, whats the difference between this M134 and the M134 on the UH-1H? I havent tried the M134 on the SA342 so not sure how it compares against that one, but I would assume its similar to the Huey.

 

There was an opinion that the huey m134 does not spray enough. Not sure what right. 

[Hammer1-1]

6 hours ago, tobi said:

There was an opinion that the huey m134 does not spray enough. Not sure what right. 

 

Its practically a laser beam. The only reason why it would jerk would be from recoil, and that would be mitigated by any mechanical arm aiming the weapon. Its like shooting a jackhammer at a higher RPM setting. You could tell the difference between a human aiming it and a gimbal.

 

Edited August 14, 2024 by Hammer1-1

[swartbyron]

Just to say thank you for update 1.3 and especially for the addition of the pedal trim option.

What a versatile little helicopter and such fun to fly.

 

[One Eyed Ross]

21 hours ago, Hammer1-1 said:

 

Its practically a laser beam. The only reason why it would jerk would be from recoil, and that would be mitigated by any mechanical arm aiming the weapon. Its like shooting a jackhammer at a higher RPM setting. You could tell the difference between a human aiming it and a gimbal.

 

 

Remember, the OH-6 was a 1960's bird.  The AH-6 came out in the 80's....  twenty years of upgrades to mounts and sighting system.

 

Edited August 15, 2024 by One Eyed Ross

[Hammer1-1]

34 minutes ago, One Eyed Ross said:

Remember, the OH-6 was a 1960's bird.  The AH-6 came out in the 80's....  twenty years of upgrades to mounts and sighting system.

 

 

but no updates to the gun itself, and mechanical linkage is mechanical linkage. its only going to vary between updates that only improves on the design such as correcting flaws. Its still going to mechanically hold it in position.

Edited August 15, 2024 by Hammer1-1

[Hiob]

Looks like a RC scale model to me.

[alrisha]

Help: During the cold start process of Oh-6a, I have turned on the battery switch and the fuel pump in sequence, but when I press the starter, I can see that the instrument rotates to 20%, but the propeller does not move. No matter how much I increase the throttle, the engine still cannot start. Has anyone encountered this problem?

[GrEaSeLiTeNiN]

Help: During the cold start process of Oh-6a, I have turned on the battery switch and the fuel pump in sequence, but when I press the starter, I can see that the instrument rotates to 20%, but the propeller does not move. No matter how much I increase the throttle, the engine still cannot start. Has anyone encountered this problem?

Did you try the included training mission? Works for me even if I rush it.

[alrisha]

55 minutes ago, GrEaSeLiTeNiN said:

Did you try the included training mission? Works for me even if I rush it.

Do you mean my operation process is wrong? Which is correct?

[CommandT]

Made a little video about the Loach:
 

 

[Springfield-902]

bro how to select smoke ?

and how to using this aim mark

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[Slippa]

52 minutes ago, alrisha said:

Do you mean my operation process is wrong? Which is correct?

VR FlightGuys video may help you?

 

[Slippa]

28 minutes ago, Springfield-902 said:

bro how to select smoke ?

and how to using this aim mark

If you go to your rearming page you can choose your loadout. Smoke grenades are there, it’s up to you what button you bind to drop them.

The gunsight can be moved, I swing it up and out of the way and fire off a few shots to get my eye in. Have a look at some of Devil505s videos posted here to give you an idea.