Caucasus Wishlist Thread

[draconus]

Can't find 0$ option. Pass.

[bies]

It belongs to "Maps Wishlist", not to "Core Wishlist" though.

[Silver_Dragon]

No thanks, Caucasus need maintain free.

[LucShep]

57 minutes ago, draconus said:

Can't find 0$ option. Pass.

Ditto.

[Beirut]

5 hours ago, cfrag said:

 

Another point: Caucasus is my go-to map for performance. 

 

 

Yes. Exactly my thought. Everyone has it, it looks pretty good, and it works like a charm.

 

Much rather see NTTR get some love, and I would be happy to pay for that.

[Gierasimov]

Caucasus by Ugra Media - 30 USD, if it was OrbX - 0 USD, current Caucasus looks better than Kola in many places

[BIGNEWY]

Folks just remember this is a wish post from a user, it is not something that is planned or going to happen, before people get to bent out of shape with replies  

 

moved to map wish list area

[UWBuRn]

If includes Crimea would be one of the few terrains i would pay for. Completely unrelated to current events, i really miss Crimea from LOMAC days.

[Silver_Dragon]

Krimea has actualy a "Not Go".

[MAXsenna]

Krimea has actualy a "Not Go".

That's what he said. He knows it's a "no go". While even so, he wishes and would pay for it if it was a "go".

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[plott1964]

8 hours ago, MAXsenna said:

Only the terrain? Not buildings etc?

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Everything. Like Syria, Normandy, South Atlantic, etc...

2 hours ago, Gierasimov said:

Caucasus by Ugra Media - 30 USD, if it was OrbX - 0 USD, current Caucasus looks better than Kola in many places

Pretty sure Kola is still in the oven.

2 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

Folks just remember this is a wish post from a user, it is not something that is planned or going to happen, before people get to bent out of shape with replies  

 

moved to map wish list area

LOL! Did I stir things up?

Look at the numbers ED. This could be a profitable endeavor.

[Silver_Dragon]

27 minutes ago, plott1964 said:

LOL! Did I stir things up?

Look at the numbers ED. This could be a profitable endeavor.

The caucasus has free...

[plott1964]

10 minutes ago, Silver_Dragon said:

The caucasus has free...

 

[MAXsenna]

8 hours ago, plott1964 said:

 

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Edited October 10, 2024 by MAXsenna

[cfrag]

1 hour ago, plott1964 said:

Look at the numbers ED. This could be a profitable endeavor.

I'm often mystified why people seem to believe that ED have not done that (looked at the numbers) and haven't yet come to a conclusion. I believe that they probably already have done both - it's quite possible that the result is just not what we had hoped for. 

The obvious, "even more profitable" idea (based on your suggestion) would be to make a free, much better Caucasus to lure in even more players by putting forward your best foot (a fantastic free Caucasus). 

Don't get me wrong: your suggestion could be profitable, agreed. It just may be that it's not likely to be profitable, and it is therefore prioritized accordingly. Maybe ED did not find someone who would want to invest in such an endeavor, take the risk (which would be big). 

I'm all for a better Caucasus. To me, this is not obviously "free money"; I see it as a financial loss more probably. So unless ED are prepared to finance a loss leader, this is a non-starter to them. I have no insights into ED's inner workings, so above is just an educated guess.

Edited October 10, 2024 by cfrag

[draconus]

1 hour ago, plott1964 said:

Look at the numbers ED. This could be a profitable endeavor

So, we've got potential $500 - let's change this texture with it. 

[plott1964]

2 hours ago, cfrag said:

I'm often mystified why people seem to believe that ED have not done that (looked at the numbers) and haven't yet come to a conclusion. I believe that they probably already have done both - it's quite possible that the result is just not what we had hoped for. 

The obvious, "even more profitable" idea (based on your suggestion) would be to make a free, much better Caucasus to lure in even more players by putting forward your best foot (a fantastic free Caucasus). 

Don't get me wrong: your suggestion could be profitable, agreed. It just may be that it's not likely to be profitable, and it is therefore prioritized accordingly. Maybe ED did not find someone who would want to invest in such an endeavor, take the risk (which would be big). 

I'm all for a better Caucasus. To me, this is not obviously "free money"; I see it as a financial loss more probably. So unless ED are prepared to finance a loss leader, this is a non-starter to them. I have no insights into ED's inner workings, so above is just an educated guess.

 

Understood. So, the way I was looking at it was ED would still offer the current free Caucasus map. But then an upgraded version for those willing to pay for it. I mean, look at Afghanistan and how they are breaking that up for deployment (and Syria/Sinai). Yes you are right, it obviously not "free money". Everything costs something. I just thought it would be a great idea since everyone who flies in DCS knows the Caucasus like the back of our hands.

2 hours ago, draconus said:

So, we've got potential $500 - let's change this texture with it. 

LOL!

[upyr1]

I'd be willing to pay for an expansion that includes Volgograd 

[Ironhand]

I’d pay the current prices for maps, if it were both updated and expanded in any direction.

[Crouz]

0 that they work on their low-performance engine rather than making content still in beta

[smoking_ace420]

This would make for an awesome WW2 map.

 

Let's dive into an intriguing "what if" scenario where the Allies, after defeating Nazi Germany, turn against the Soviet Union and bomb Baku using B-29 bombers:

### Alternate Timeline: The Baku Incident

#### 1945 - End of WWII:
- As Nazi Germany collapses, the Allied forces (U.S., Britain, France) and the Soviet Union meet at the Elbe River. However, tensions between the Allies and the Soviet Union are already brewing due to ideological differences and territorial ambitions.
- Instead of focusing on post-war reconstruction, the Allies begin to view the Soviet Union's expansion into Eastern Europe with increasing alarm.

#### 1946 - Operation Unity:
- Secret meetings are held among the Allied leaders in which they decide to counter the Soviet threat before it becomes too formidable. The plan, codenamed "Operation Unity," is devised to curb Soviet influence by targeting key strategic locations.
- The focus shifts to Baku, a critical oil-producing region in the Soviet Union, which fuels much of the Soviet military machinery.

#### 1947 - The Baku Bombing:
- In a surprise move, the Allies execute a coordinated airstrike on Baku using B-29 bombers. The operation aims to cripple Soviet oil supplies and diminish their military capability.
- The bombing causes significant damage to the oil fields and infrastructure, leading to immediate repercussions in the Soviet Union’s war strategy.

#### 1948 - The Cold War Turns Hot:
- Enraged by the attack, Stalin orders retaliation. The Soviet Union swiftly mobilizes its forces in Eastern Europe and attempts to push into Western territories.
- The Allies bolster their defenses in Europe, leading to intense skirmishes along the newly established front lines. Major cities across Europe face the threat of aerial bombardments and ground invasions.

#### 1949 - The Nuclear Gamble:
- Fearing a prolonged and destructive conflict, both sides consider the use of nuclear weapons. The specter of nuclear war looms large over the globe.
- Diplomatic efforts for peace are intensified by neutral nations, fearing the catastrophic consequences of nuclear conflict.

#### 1950 - The Armistice of Vienna:
- After months of intense negotiations, a ceasefire is brokered, known as the Armistice of Vienna. The agreement leads to a tenuous peace and establishes new borders in Europe.
- The world remains divided, but the sheer devastation of conventional warfare and the threat of nuclear annihilation force both sides to reconsider outright war.

#### Long-term Consequences:
- The post-war era is defined by rapid technological advancement, driven by the military and economic competition between the West and the Soviet bloc.
- Countries on both sides of the divide invest heavily in space exploration, leading to a prolonged space race. However, the global economy remains in a fragile state due to the ongoing arms race.
- Humanitarian crises and displacement are rampant, with millions affected by the destruction and political upheaval.

In this alternate timeline, the turning of the Allies against the Soviet Union significantly alters the course of the 20th century, leading to a more intense and immediate conflict rather than a prolonged Cold War. The world remains on edge, perpetually aware of the thin line between war and peace.

What do you think of this hypothetical scenario? It's always fascinating to explore alternate histories and their potential ripple effects!

 

Edited November 28, 2024 by smoking_ace420
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[razo+r]

The area itself you suggested is rather uninteresting, at least for me. 

As for the scenario, I mean you are absolutely free to imagine whatever you want, but I personally am not intriged by such a what-if scenario. Especially if we don't have any fitting assets (no B-29 and pretty much no soviet WW2 equipment)...

If you want an actual WW2 map, then we should get northern Caucasus and the crimean peninsula (basically almost the current Caucasus map but WW2 edition), as that's where the actual fighting was. 

[smoking_ace420]

Would it be possible for a few Turkish airbases such as Merzifon and Rize to be added to the Caucasus map via the downloadable update? That way, everyone could use them without having to purchase a new Caucasus map, and no one would be left out of multiplayer. It could even be done with the same level of quality the existing airbases in the Caucasus map are made.

 

https://minstrelboy.blogspot.com/2016/10/map-of-turkish-military-bases.html

 

 

[G.J.S]

I can certainly see the appeal of a few Turkish bases to reinvigorate the Caucasus, unfortunately I doubt very much it would happen.

 

Very good idea though.

[smoking_ace420]

A remastered Caucasus map could be even better than Syria or Kola Peninsula. There's more opportunity for peer-level warfare there than in Syria, and more room and opportunities for ground combat than in Kola as well.