shagrat Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 so if we have contrary preferences why not simply put in an option: canopy crazings on/off ? Because I have seen a lot evidence that they are realistic, from cockpit videos to pictures and MY preference would shure be to have them on. I found them to be top notch immersion, putting me right there in the pit. Yes, with 2D they may distract, but I would like that challenge like the difficulty to spot a plane against the sun... You don't like it? Turn it off! Simple solution, isn't it? :D Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Rider Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 err... if you like it, turn the setting on ;) :) City Hall is easier to fight, than a boys' club - an observation :P "Resort is had to ridicule only when reason is against us." - Jefferson "Give a group of potheads a bunch of weed and nothing to smoke out of, and they'll quickly turn into engineers... its simply amazing." EVGA X99 FTW, EVGA GTX980Ti FTW, i7 5930K, 16Gb Corsair Dominator 2666Hz, Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit, Intel 520 SSD x 2, Samsung PX2370 monitor and all the other toys - "I am a leaf on the wind, watch how I soar" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rextar Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Look at a lot of cockpit footage scratches ARE there. +1 let's av em!!! Intel i5 3.2 ghz 8 GB crucial ram gtx 660 superclocked 2gb 500watt corsair psu win7 64bit extreme pro track ir5 Turtle beach x12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shagrat Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 err... if you like it, turn the setting on ;) :) I would! Unfortunately that is what we ask for: to implement them as an option... problem is other people don't like them so they argue "that's unrealistic" (which it isn't) and try to block it. like if they never use indicators in the car and say: nobody needs them... :D Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rextar Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I would! Unfortunately that is what we ask for: to implement them as an option... problem is other people don't like them so they argue "that's unrealistic" (which it isn't) and try to block it. like if they never use indicators in the car and say: nobody needs them... :D "Unrealistic" I think you better get on YouTube my friend its part of the "reality factor" Intel i5 3.2 ghz 8 GB crucial ram gtx 660 superclocked 2gb 500watt corsair psu win7 64bit extreme pro track ir5 Turtle beach x12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rextar Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 NOT a canopy in this world doesn't have scuffs marks on it . Intel i5 3.2 ghz 8 GB crucial ram gtx 660 superclocked 2gb 500watt corsair psu win7 64bit extreme pro track ir5 Turtle beach x12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 NOT a canopy in this world doesn't have scuffs marks on it . Guess you haven't been in many real A-10 cockpits then have you? Yes some have scratches but the location, size, and depth all have to be with in Tech Order limits which are very restrictive and most don't have any scratches. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website | v303rd Fighter Group Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate--IRL-- Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Crazing =/= scratches. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rextar Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 My point exactly Nate Intel i5 3.2 ghz 8 GB crucial ram gtx 660 superclocked 2gb 500watt corsair psu win7 64bit extreme pro track ir5 Turtle beach x12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shagrat Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 My point exactly Nate yep! talking about crazing here... acrylic usually suffers from crazing. As I said lots of videos and pictures show them... @rextar - I'm absolutely pro crazings. Read my previous posts, please.;) Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rextar Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 yep! talking about crazing here... acrylic usually suffers from crazing. As I said lots of videos and pictures show them... @rextar - I'm absolutely pro crazings. Read my previous posts, please.;) No need to read any past posts my opinion is what counts. Intel i5 3.2 ghz 8 GB crucial ram gtx 660 superclocked 2gb 500watt corsair psu win7 64bit extreme pro track ir5 Turtle beach x12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobac Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Pretty big debate took on these small little things, and I'll tell you my opinion. Of course scratches exist in the cockpits in RL, but in reality they do not bother so much as in this simulation. In FC I always sought mod to turn them off. Therefore, I propose to make a slider in the options of complete disappearance, so that the intensity slowly increases to 100%. Otherwise mode that erases scratches will be highly sought. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Everything is possible ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Scratches have to be added into the physical model now, they aren't a separate glass layer like the old FC1/2 days, so they would have to be added back in by ED. That aside, what is also now possible would be to have no scratches at the start of the mission, and over the duration of the flight build up a couple here and there. Some neat tricks available in EDM with some simple coding. :) i7 7700K | 32GB RAM | GTX 1080Ti | Rift CV1 | TM Warthog | Win 10 "There will always be people with a false sense of entitlement. You can want it, you can ask for it, but you don't automatically deserve it. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterplus Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 The scratches in the P-51 is visibily... The canopy are in plaxyglass... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Aeronautica Militare Virtuale Italiana AMVI Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo38 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 "Unrealistic" I think you better get on YouTube my friend its part of the "reality factor" Video camera /= pair of human eyes. Very, very different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Why is this poll closed? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ...the few, the proud, the remaining... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Because the poll was created in April 2011, almost 2 years ago.... i7 7700K | 32GB RAM | GTX 1080Ti | Rift CV1 | TM Warthog | Win 10 "There will always be people with a false sense of entitlement. You can want it, you can ask for it, but you don't automatically deserve it. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Python Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I'd much rather see rain drops... 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyb0rg Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Nice video. Cool tune. Ty for the Link. Rep inbound. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asteroids ____________________________________________ Update this :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Because the poll was created in April 2011, almost 2 years ago.... Hm... I know very well when was it created, cause I was the creator... but, people can no longer opt and there is a lot of new pilots hopping on this boat after FC3 release... they also have an oppinion I gues eh? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ...the few, the proud, the remaining... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shagrat Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) OK, I know it is a "dead horse" and maybe we never get the OPTIONAL(!) button to get this back, but what pissed me of for some time is the people again and again telling "This is not there in real life" - "crazing is not there in real life" - "Real aircrafts don't have scratches, they are replacing the canopy everytime it is scratched" - etc. So maybe we watch a little , happening in REALITY with a REAL cockpit canopy... and guess what? REAL CANOPY CRAZINGS! 00:18 ...and later on throughout the video, whenever the sun is in the correct steep angle to the plexiglass: ...so maybe, just maybe, we can have these as an OPTIONAL effect, we may turn on, if we like it? :music_whistling: EDIT: And by the way, before everybody is pointing out: "this is a demo flight, in real combat they would have replaced the canopy" - Maybe, I like to fly demo displays and like to do it in a realistic way... :megalol: Edited February 28, 2013 by shagrat Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiJack Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 ED please put more hours in to EDGE, Nevada, DCS F/A-18 and DCS F-15C before even consider adding scratches that is not visible by the naked eye sitting behind the pilots visor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krupi Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 And before edge etc release the fw 190 ;) Windows 10 Pro | ASUS RANGER VIII | i5 6600K @ 4.6GHz| MSI RTX 2060 SUPER | 32GB RAM | Corsair H100i | Corsair Carbide 540 | HP Reverb G2 | MFG crosswind Pedals | Custom Spitfire Cockpit Project IX Cockpit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shagrat Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 ED please put more hours in to EDGE, Nevada, DCS F/A-18 and DCS F-15C before even consider adding scratches that is not visible by the naked eye sitting behind the pilots visor. You are aware that the textures are already done since FC2? This effect was there loooong time ago. I do not ask to develop it! I dare ask if they might drop the textures into DCS World and maybe put a line in config.lua to switch on or off depending on the personal preference... Agreed on EDGE, though. Before considering any other plane, please give us EDGE so 3rd Party can start making Afghanistan, Iran/Iraq, Balkans, Vietnam, Scandinavia and what else anybody is willing to build. :D Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suchacz Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) Mustang has a tiny cracks all over the canopy, visible only when you are staring to the sun, something like on the foto above. IMHO it shouldn't be too hard to implement it to the Hog and BS. Or...? Edited February 28, 2013 by Suchacz Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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