Exorcet Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 I believe everyone should be happy I agree, now both sides have DCS Fighter, Attack, and Helicopter and suitable opponents. As much as I like the F-15, the Flanker is awesome plane, and the new cockpit looks much more like what I'm used to, so I think I'll be flying Red as well as Blue. Awaiting: DCS F-15C Win 10 i5-9600KF 4.6 GHz 64 GB RAM RTX2080Ti 11GB -- Win 7 64 i5-6600K 3.6 GHz 32 GB RAM GTX970 4GB -- A-10C, F-5E, Su-27, F-15C, F-14B, F-16C missions in User Files
SyntaxError Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 I wonder if there's a particular reason for making the AH-1G instead of the current generation AH-1Z Viper. Perhaps it's been made by Belsimtek as a sort of legacy aircraft along with the Huey and a Vietnam map. Unless the systems are far too complicated and classified to be done on a scale as the A10C. I know Eagle Dynamics wouldn't want to release an aircraft with missing/inaccurate systems. F/A-18C - A-10C - FC3 - L-39C/ZA - Ka-50 - UH-1H - Mi-8MTV2 - F-86F - Spitfire - P-51D - P-47D - BF-109K - CA
SkateZilla Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 I wonder if there's a particular reason for making the AH-1G instead of the current generation AH-1Z Viper. Perhaps it's been made by Belsimtek as a sort of legacy aircraft along with the Huey and a Vietnam map. Unless the systems are far too complicated and classified to be done on a scale as the A10C. I know Eagle Dynamics wouldn't want to release an aircraft with missing/inaccurate systems. Systems are Still Classified. and please dont say BF3 has one. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
NRG-Vampire Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) Exciting news. Hope the Mi-24 is a D version with rotating gun in chin turret. Also, wondering If the Su-27SM can use guided A-G ammo. i hope too we will get D or V version of Mi-24 Su-27SM should use R-77, KH-29, KH-31, KH-35 etc. and i wondering why Wags announced/talked about those aircrafts and not (yet) about other future 3rd party aircrafts. will ED release own MiG-21 (F-13 version?) or another Huey for a Vietnam scenery ? (beside MiG-21bis by Beczl) will another scenery coming ? Korea with F-86F ? or a WWII scenery for Focke-Wulf-190 and P-51D ? ps. was the L-29 misspelling or not ? L-29 Dolphin or L-39 Albatros ? or BOTH ? :thumbup: Edited January 18, 2013 by NRG-Vampire
swift Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) Great spot, nicely done very professional. The voice over is well spoken and not monotonous. For an outsider to the series the video is a great introduction to the features and gameplay. I spreaded it as I could on my net, good luck. The List... (Pandora Box) I wonder the reason for this sudden change in the way the modules are annouced? On a video that is supposedly a casual introduction to DCS world, you reveal multiple projects at once... I don't get it. At the known rate of release, some of the items on that list maybe enjoyed by my grandchildren, I hope ;) But that's ok, I'm happy like everyone else :cheer3nc: Edited January 18, 2013 by swift
Pilotasso Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 i hope too we will get D or V version of Mi-24 Su-27SM should use R-77, KH-29, KH-31, KH-35 etc. R-77 never entered service in RuAF ( a fact frequently forgotten on these threads because the mig can carry them ingame). SU-27SM will operate with RVV-SD, which is being developed using the R-77 as a starting point. Also the F-15 is not the plane to be feared, it will be the F-18C, it can carry 10 slammers. :D I Expect the hornet to be far more popular than the Eagle ingame due to its multirole capabilities and competitive radar (inferior to that of the eagle but just good enough for the purpose). .
phant Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 F/A-18C SU-27SM F-15C FW-190 MiG-21Bis F-86F L-29 UH-1H Mi-8MTV2 AH-1G Mi-24 OH-58 Maybe i miss something but, what about AH-64? Bye Phant
danilop Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 ... Also the F-15 is not the plane to be feared, it will be the F-18C, it can carry 10 slammers. :D ... And with proposed tactics in this topic, we should be afraid, very afraid! :helpsmilie: :megalol:
upupandaway Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 I wonder the reason for this sudden change in the way the modules are annouced? On a video that is supposedly a casual introduction to DCS world, you reveal multiple projects at once... Typical ED antics? But joking aside, why shouldn´t they? If the products are far enough into development so that they feel confident to reveal WHAT it is in fact going to be (not even talking any features yet) - why not place it where many newcomers will look for advice / an overview and which has already spread like a wildfire amongst the forum members...? I think it´s efficient marketing. I don't get it. At the known rate of release, some of the items on that list maybe enjoyed by my grandchildren, I hope "And someday maybe tomorrow..." Either way it´s going to be happy times. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Deedle, deedle!
danilop Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 To be honest, the biggest fear of mine is if owners of ED suddenly decide to sell company. This video could be a selling promo targeting big players in the gaming industry :D P.S. Hey, this forum is full of conspiracy theories, so I'm just contributing ... :lol:
SkateZilla Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 And with proposed tactics in this topic, we should be afraid, very afraid! :helpsmilie: :megalol: I'll fly under you and jettison flares into your Jet Intakes.. hahaha... Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
SkateZilla Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 I wonder the reason for this sudden change in the way the modules are annouced? On a video that is supposedly a casual introduction to DCS world, you reveal multiple projects at once... I don't get it. It's a marketing overview? for Both Home Consumers and other Potential Clients. It's better to promote what you will have than what you only have and what you dont. :joystick: Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
BRooDJeRo Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 Thx for the awesome presentation Mr. Wags! I'll be looking forward to version 1.2.4. This video totaly brought back my interest in DCS. The only questions i'm left with is: When? Are the network issues coming at peace in version 1.2.3 so we can all enjoy the feeling that you have behind your screen?
Dudikoff Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) Exciting news. Hope the Mi-24 is a D version with rotating gun in chin turret. The Yak-B machine gun was featured on most variants till V so I hope it's the V then since it has much better AT missiles compared to D.. But what about the rare VP which had a turreted two-barrel 23mm gun? :) Edited January 18, 2013 by Dudikoff i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar!
159th_Viper Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 Also the F-15 is not the plane to be feared, it will be the F-18C, it can carry 10 slammers. :D Aye, or 6 AMRAAM and 6 ASRAAM: mmmm.......Better! :D Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
NRG-Vampire Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 Aye, or 6 AMRAAM and 6 ASRAAM: mmmm.......Better! :D Best: 10*AIM-120D and 2*AIM-9X :D
Python Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 I Expect the hornet to be far more popular than the Eagle ingame due to its multirole capabilities and competitive radar (inferior to that of the eagle but just good enough for the purpose). I agree, I love the F-15 but I can't wait for the hornet.... off to buy the jetstream series on DVD. :pilotfly: 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Kaktus29 Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 i guess this whole new packages coming will be very huuuge for one simple reason-A/G radar capabilities.. i hope ED makes it without big bugs.. how will they do this technique i don't know, i figure it was difficult for it was one of the things ED avoided as much as they could.. do they just use map-template and change the colours, visibility etc. as you use your radar on the plane or totally new mechanism.. what is more CPU efficient.. wow.. whatever the case, congrats to have obviously overcome this obstacle..and we look forward to some multi-role planes who can conduct air-to-air and air-to-ground missions. Considering the fact they mentioned the predator in the video, i figure the missions could be long one, like 6-10 hours.. if so, wouldn't it be great to have the option to "punch in" and out of the missions as you have time available while the "game" would still run in the "background" .. i mean, if the mission is lets say complex and it involves many things to be done over longer period of time (longer than 1 dogfight or missile exchange that happens in today's mp) , wouldn't it be nice to have this option.. like, you would have the C&C centers-awacs, or battle commander view or whatever.. where you can manage your forces and you will see the enemy only as your planes, ground forces make contact or use their ground radar's to "mark" certain enemy elements.. and thus having the info to even plan an attack in the first place.. and if you have no time, no problem, just punch out.. the opening will be taken by some other player waiting in line.. of course, the nuances need to be polished by you get the general gist ..
SkateZilla Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 Im pretty sure if they can accurately replicate Air To Air Radars, then Air to Ground would be no problem. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Kaktus29 Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 i'm not sure its soo easy as you say, i mean air-to-air is about putting pixels on the radar that represents planes etc.. air-to-ground is pretty much painting the whole ground, clutter, .. there are bridges, roads, railways, railway carts, buildings, ..etc.. all this in the right and correct way as it is in game world in the ground as it is.. this i think is a bit more cpu intensive than air-to-air where there is no clutter, ..empty air and whatever stands out from the air-metal formations flying and moving up and down.. i remember the F-15 jane's simulation..actually it was the F-15E strike eagle.. and they did a nice air-to-ground radar, you could get nice picture of the objects 100 km away.. and even realistic "black spots" if there was a valley or other natural blocking object through which radar couldn't get to "paint it" .. 1
Bruce_D Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 It is the new RWR (above the message). The message is transposed over the RWR screen. All SM aircraft have similar cockpit (as pictured). SM1, 2 (which didn't really exist) and 3. How many are in service?
Rotorhead Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 The List... (Pandora Box) I wonder the reason for this sudden change in the way the modules are annouced? On a video that is supposedly a casual introduction to DCS world, you reveal multiple projects at once... I don't get it. At the known rate of release, some of the items on that list maybe enjoyed by my grandchildren, I hope ;) Yeah, I guess we'll have to wait quite some time to see all those new modules in action. But on the other hand... You don't know whats going on behind the closed doors. While some other 3rd party devs are showing their progress from the very begining, ED and some others may not. Look at Belsimtek for example. Few months ago, most of us hadn't even clue that this company existed and then all of sudden, they announced their UH-1 to be almost ready for beta release. Well, it's delayed a bit right now, but no matter - you got the point. ED might follow the same strategy as well. There were rumors about upcoming US fast-mover for quite a time, but nothing official until now. Which makes me think, maybe they were working on it all the time, but they just didn't want to announce it yet. And, don't forget that ED is working primarily for military customers. Both Ka-50 and A-10C are based on military sims. So, what if they are already developing Su-27SM sim for the military for a long time, but just recently received the permission to make a entertainment sim out of it? ;) I'm really not trying to imply that those announced modules are "just behind the corner" (oh how i wish...), but just because they announced them now does not mean that they are starting from the ground. 2
Kaktus29 Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 okei guys.. now we can all ask ourselves.. when do you think this modules will start coming out.. when do you want to come out(of course today if possible)) lol, .. and when do you expect them realistically, and when do you think they will actually come.. i of course would enjoy them ASAP, but realistically i think about 7-10 months, would not like it if i needed to wait for 12-16 months although would wait no problem because i love it, and its definitely worth it .. i mean, the whole package of all planes, choppers .. i think about 24-30 months.. so, 2015 january , i think all those modules will be out.. which means awesome stuff.. don't know if its better to release them one at a time, or fire many in quick succession .. hmm.. fox 1-then wait, then fire fox 2.. or just fire a salvo ? .. what it better? .. money wise, what do you think would make the most impact in sales? ..
sobek Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 don't know if its better to release them one at a time, or fire many in quick succession .. hmm.. fox 1-then wait, then fire fox 2.. or just fire a salvo ? .. what it better? .. money wise, what do you think would make the most impact in sales? .. "Salvo" is not a valid approach, ED can't go for years without any return on their investments. 1 Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Raven68 Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 "Salvo" is not a valid approach, ED can't go for years without any return on their investments. Agreed. I will say though that based on this huge sandbox, and the huge list to come and the outstanding possibilities, releasing two modules a year(if possible) should definitely pacify this community.:) Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz; Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo; G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4080 16GB 256-Bit GDDR6; Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 11 Professional HP Reverb G2 /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies; Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals
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