jmod Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 (edited) We are considering the possibility of creating a complete avionics model with clickable cockpit and accurate systems modeling. This would be a major development however, so a final decision has not yet been made. I can't pilot the real F-15C, and I'm guessing ED (The Great) is my only chance to feel the eagle :) So, I'd like to have everything in "DCS: A-10C Warthog" level, or even more (IFF, Cockpit Damage Model, etc...)! I believe that by utilizing modern technologies like 64 bit, Multi CPU - GPU, Hardware Accelerated Physics, and etc..., everything can be done! Just don't forget what it could be found in typical recent PCs, up to 8 core 64 bit CPU, GeForce 680 with PhysX acceleration. About 26 GB map size of Nevada, the Cloud Computing, and Map Tile Service would be the solution. We just need to download a mid resolution version, and over time, and by going over places with different altitude, the map with different resolution would be automatically downloaded! I hope they don't sacrifice the capabilities of new technologies to keep backward compatibility! Edited November 1, 2013 by jmod Let's fly together for the sake of peace :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom453 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I'd vote for more DCS Anything (as long as it is kept to the existing DCS standard. Just can't go back to the Flaming Cliffs level anymore). However, priority (which DCS item should come next) is a completely different question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiza Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I think everyone would want a DCS:F15, it's just at what expense that's the problem. If its delays f-18 or a new map, then no for me. [url=http://www.aef-hq.com.au/aef4/forumdisplay.php?262-Digital-Combat-Simulator][SIGPIC]http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/2500/a10161sqnsignitureedite.png[/SIGPIC][/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAW_Blaze Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 A friend of mine told me we'd get the AFM for FC3 aswell. I highly doubt that.. can anyone confirm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winchesterdelta1 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I'm all for it. Would be a fantasic plane to have in DCS fidelity while waiting for the F-18c. It will help me bridge the gap. Even if it delay's the F-18c for a bit. We have to wait for that one for a long time anyway. Go in close, and when you think you are too close, go in closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick-X Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Before we try to convince ED to start any new projects I would like DCS to be stable and at last almost bug free. And then there is the F/A-18 to come, a Plane I am really waiting for because of the Naval theater and A2G capability 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTFDarkEagle Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Before we try to convince ED to start any new projects I would like DCS to be stable and at last almost bug free. And then there is the F/A-18 to come, a Plane I am really waiting for because of the Naval theater and A2G capability THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suchacz Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 (edited) I'd like to have everything in "DCS: A-10C Warthog" level, or even more (IFF, Cockpit Damage Model, etc...)! Show me somebody who doesn't... This whole thread is pretty senseless... :doh: Edited October 31, 2013 by Suchacz Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tengah Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Before we try to convince ED to start any new projects I would like DCS to be stable and at last almost bug free. And then there is the F/A-18 to come, a Plane I am really waiting for because of the Naval theater and A2G capability AMEN! Fix the AAR etc please. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanjaB Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Can anyone link to the thread where Wags posted this bit of news? Im anxious to fly the Eagle ASAP, so Im waiting for the AFM and the stand alone module (dont want to purchase FC3). Im all for a DCS level F15 module, but will this mean we wont be getting the FC3 level module seperately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven68 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Insert another option. "Yes. After F-18C" Also, what happened to Matts announcement? Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2070 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6(Assume the latest driver version) Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 10 Professional Oculus Rift-S /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aginor Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 It disappeared. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanjaB Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Huh? I guess there was info there no one was supposed to know, or at least that was erroneous. I guess this whole thread is pointless now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linx Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Insert another option. "Yes. After F-18C" +1 We've been flying the same set of planes for 10 years now. Something different with more than one role, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Jaw Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Also, what happened to Matts announcement? What announcement please? "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, ASUS RTX3060ti/8GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upupandaway Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Insert another option. "Yes. After F-18C" Also, what happened to Matts announcement? Definitely after the F-18, and what is the intent of this poll? Make the F-15 a priority before everything else? If so, then I´d say no. There are so many other important things to be realised and fixed before in DCS. I´m very much pro new DCS-level modules, but in this context it doesn´t make too much sense to me to add another huge project. The FC3 F-15 AFM already contributes to DCS with a new "supersonic AFM" and the rest may come later, just please not at the cost of current developments. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Deedle, deedle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upupandaway Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 (edited) What announcement please? It is well hidden in the FC3 announcement thread, but I think it has been moved or deleted by now. Link does no longer work, but he stated in his post that he was making this announcement only as a placeholder for BST because their site was down. Basically: BST developed AFM for FC3 F-15 over the last 8 months, Yoyo is doing the Su-27 AFM (no specifics though) and release is probably (!) going to be at the end of November. Oh, and everything is subject to change... ;) Correct me if I´m wrong. Edited October 31, 2013 by upupandaway [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Deedle, deedle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aginor Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 +1 We've been flying the same set of planes for 10 years now. Something different with more than one role, please. +1 on that. Making the stuff we have and already worked in earlier versions work again should be number one, and then F/A-18C as the next thing. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenan Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Looks like a very tight poll so far..keeping us at the edge of the seats. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commanding Officer of: 2nd Company 1st financial guard battalion "Mrcine" See our squads here and our . Croatian radio chat for DCS World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanjaB Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 It is well hidden in the FC3 announcement thread, but I think it has been moved or deleted by now. Link does no longer work. What was in it exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyntaxError Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 (edited) I'd rather have DCS F/A-18C sooner from ED. Belsimtek have been working on the AFM F-15C for 8 months which has delayed them in finishing the Huey. Any extra work for Belsimtek (should BST be given the DCS F-15C task) will surely delay the F-86 & Cobra as well. Edited October 31, 2013 by SyntaxError F/A-18C - A-10C - FC3 - L-39C/ZA - Ka-50 - UH-1H - Mi-8MTV2 - F-86F - Spitfire - P-51D - P-47D - BF-109K - CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upupandaway Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 What was in it exactly? http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1918954&postcount=20 ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Deedle, deedle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTFDarkEagle Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Original text: DCS: F-15C Eagle. Advanced flight model development overview Dynamics modeling experts at BelSimTek are completing work on advanced flight and engine models of the F-15C Eagle for the upcoming module for DCS World. The current model featured in DCS was originally developed over a decade ago and represents an earlier generation of technological potential and resulting model accuracy and performance. Despite exhibiting generally correct aerodynamic properties under normal flight conditions, by today’s standards the model falls short of increased user expectations, computing power, and experience gained by the developers over time. In an effort to meet these demands, we have begun to develop new flight and related component models as upgrades to some of the existing DCS aircraft. As the primary U.S. jet fighter in DCS and indeed one of the premier fighters of the world in reality, the F-15C Eagle will be the first DCS aircraft to receive this upgrade. The flight model has been through over eight months of development and is now undergoing initial external (closed beta) testing. The complete aerodynamics model accounts for the entire spectrum of mass, force, and moment interactions of the aircraft as a physical object subjected to airflow. Unlike the mathematical approach of the previous model, which regarded the aircraft as a single point of focus, the new flight model consists of individual aircraft elements carefully tuned to reflect their unique aerodynamic characteristics and joined together to determine the sum vector of the airframe’s momentum. Such an approach makes it possible to accurately recreate the specific performance of the F-15C Eagle airframe throughout the entire flight envelope, including critical regimes like high angles of attack, stalls, spins, as well as specific flight conditions such as ground effect. Additionally, a new engine model is also created on par with the flight model to provide more realistic and accurate performance, for example featuring effects like negative G loading. The flight control system is modeled realistically, for example including input authority coefficients dependent on speed and altitude scheduling, the Aileron/Rudder Interconnect (ARI), Control Augmentation System (CAS), as well as Attitude and Altitude autopilot modes. F-15C refuel DCS: F-15C refuel The new model significantly improves the entire flight control experience making special flight conditions like air to air refueling, landing, and edge of the envelope flying far more dynamic, exciting, and possibly even more challenging. Even straight and level flight loses the old feeling of flying on rails. We are considering the possibility of creating a complete avionics model with clickable cockpit and accurate systems modeling. This would be a major development however, so a final decision has not yet been made. The estimated release date for the advanced flight model for F-15C Eagle DCS module is end of November, 2013. Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upupandaway Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Thanks for the re-post. Where did you find it? So the F-15 might become module no. 21 to be released within the next 18 months? :music_whistling: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Deedle, deedle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTFDarkEagle Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 BIGNEWY copied and pasted if from the original to our 9th Shrek FB page :P Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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