DCS: AJS-37 Viggen Discussion

[Pizzasalladland]

Since there is no squadron number on the nose, it also can be 37105... ;-)

 

Ah look at that! I was certain that i had looked through it all! It might very well be that as well!

[il_corleone]

One question, with the Bk90, will be able to attack SAM sites ? I saw it had a range of 20km at 50m at 0.95 Mach, could the range improve at mor alt?

 

Found this video

Edited November 28, 2016 by il_corleone

[microvax]

One question, with the Bk90, will be able to attack SAM sites ? I saw it had a range of 20km at 50m at 0.95 Mach, could the range improve at mor alt?

 

Found this video

 

nonono not 20km.

7-8km at 50m agl. 0.85 mach.

 

Swedish variant should not be released higher then 500m due to radar altimeter.

But yes most systems can be engaged with a popup attack with that weapon.

[mattebubben]

One question, with the Bk90, will be able to attack SAM sites ? I saw it had a range of 20km at 50m at 0.95 Mach, could the range improve at mor alt?

 

Found this video

 

If you have the target location then yes.

You need to either have the target coordinates before hand and insert them to have the weapons know where to go.

 

Or work together with a Jtac or another aircraft with the ability to Pinpoint target Coordinates (A-10C with targeting pod for example).

 

You can also use the Radar to select an area and feed the coordinates to the weapon (atleast that is what i have gathered)

but since the radar is not optimized to see small targets (Tanks,vehicles or even small buildings) it will be trickier and it could need some skill to get good at it (will have to see how it plays out ingame).

 

But the best tactic would probably be getting the coordinates beforehand (if they are fixed and known defences) or getting the data from another aircraft or a Jtac that way you can simply program the weapons fly in at a very low altitude 10-100m which would make it hard for most air defences to engage you at range and then do a high speed release once in range at a slight angle (so you dont have to close to much to the target) and leave at the same low altitude until beyond sam range.

 

This technique should be usable even against more advanced systems as Tor unless the terrain is 100% flat.

 

One could also try to use the Maverick though that would likely require you to get even closer (and you would also need to visually find the target instead of just following nav / targeting cues).

 

the BK90 is not gonna be a god weapon but it should be interesting and should be effective when employed correctly

(if its modeled correctly atleast).

 

And as for range low altitude employment should be 8-10km (Weather and Terrain will effect the range as the glide bomb will try to maintain its altitude according to its radar altimiter so going uphill or down hill can alter the range)

 

and the later sister of the BK 90 named AFDS for (Autonomous Free-flight Dispenser System) that is in use with Greece was based on the BK 90 but modified / upgraded to be able to be deployed from either low or high altitude and at altitudes of 6100m it had a range of up to 22km but since the BK 90 for the Viggen is only optimized for low altitude drops we will have to do with 8-10km (heading directly at the target) or 4-5km (if the target is 90 degrees of the heading) but either way flying low and fast enough should make it possible to get close enough even against more heavily defended targets.

[Davee]

Does "Bitchen Betty" sound like the "Swedish Chef"? :)

[mambo]

Someone knows if AJS 37 autopilot, has the automatic aiming cannon like JA 37 ?

[firmek]

Someone knows if AJS 37 autopilot, has the automatic aiming cannon like JA 37 ?

Just started to read about the Viggen. Attack version didn't had a cannon - only possibility to mount gun pods.

[mambo]

Ok, thank you

But i was referring to the ability of the autopilot to maintain automatic aiming on the target, after radar lock on, regardless of it is internal cannon or gunpods

Edited November 29, 2016 by mambo

[DAN]

[mambo]

Nice video,thank you

[Farks]

I hate to be that guy, but hasn't this thread kind of served its purpuse now that the general forum finally is here?

[Pocket Sized]

I hate to be that guy, but hasn't this thread kind of served its purpuse now that the general forum finally is here?

 

Not really, as it still serves as a general discussion area for things that don't deserve their own threads.

[CoBlue]

This just kicks off our Viggen announcement week. :)

:cheer3nc: :yes:

[Snail]

Ok, thank you

But i was referring to the ability of the autopilot to maintain automatic aiming on the target, after radar lock on, regardless of it is internal cannon or gunpods

 

No, that is a unique feature of the JA37. It requiers a sophisticated A-A radar which the AJS37 doesn't have.

[mambo]

Thanks Snail :thumbup:

[MBot]

Ok, this has bothered me for a while. What is the correct spelling of Swedish system designations?

 

AJ37, AJ 37 or AJ-37

RB05, RB 05 or RB-05

etc.

[MYSE1234]

Ok, this has bothered me for a while. What is the correct spelling of Swedish system designations?

 

AJ37, AJ 37 or AJ-37

RB05, RB 05 or RB-05

etc.

 

I think it's AJS37. That's what it says in the manuals at least.

[Dahlbeck]

I'd say space with no hyphen. Also, the missiles but rarely the aircraft are often written in lowercase (ie. rb 05) in running text.

 

The missiles are sometimes also referred to as RBS X meaning robotsystem, ie. missile system, inkluding for an example ground based launcher and various accessories. However one could argue that the RBS 15 system includes the RB 15.

 

It only makes sense sometimes and things change with time and context. For an example, the company behind the system might market it with the "same" designation albeit with a twist, and also there may be logistics designations that differ from the ones used in training manuals and other official nomenclature.

[drPhibes]

The plane designation is without a space or dash, i.e. AJS37, AJ37. SK37 etc.

Missiles are "RB xx" with a space.

 

sources: AJS37 manual and the Swedish air force munitions catalogue.

[RaXha]

I'd say space with no hyphen. Also, the missiles but rarely the aircraft are often written in lowercase (ie. rb 05) in running text.

 

The missiles are sometimes also referred to as RBS X meaning robotsystem, ie. missile system, inkluding for an example ground based launcher and various accessories. However one could argue that the RBS 15 system includes the RB 15.

 

It only makes sense sometimes and things change with time and context. For an example, the company behind the system might market it with the "same" designation albeit with a twist, and also there may be logistics designations that differ from the ones used in training manuals and other official nomenclature.

 

It does change a lot, for example, the swedish airforce refers to the Gripen as the "Jas 39" on their website, but FMV calls it the "JAS 39" with capital letters on theirs... this is all very confusing. They all use spaces and no hyphens though. :book:

[QuiGon]

Ok, this has bothered me for a while. What is the correct spelling of Swedish system designations?

 

AJ37, AJ 37 or AJ-37

RB05, RB 05 or RB-05

etc.

 

Glad, I'm not the only one :D

[Goblin]

This just kicks off our Viggen announcement week. :)

 

Yeah... About that...

A whole day since the announcement video...

Guess, what I'm sayin' - and I know I speak for many of us - is that...we...want...more.

That is, if it's not a bother.

P-p-p-pleeeease!

 

:cry:

[grunf]

Yeah... About that...

A whole day since the announcement video...

Guess, what I'm sayin' - and I know I speak for many of us - is that...we...want...more.

That is, if it's not a bother.

P-p-p-pleeeease!

 

:cry:

+1

 

A startup procedure video would be nice. :)

[renhanxue]

Ok, this has bothered me for a while. What is the correct spelling of Swedish system designations?

 

AJ37, AJ 37 or AJ-37

RB05, RB 05 or RB-05

etc.

Definitely no hyphen, but space vs no space is debatable - I've seen both in official-ish contexts, but no space seems to be the dominant form.

[TomOnSteam]

Does "Bitchen Betty" sound like the "Swedish Chef"? :)

 

 

This would be the best DCS mod ever :)

 

Instead of "Pull Up" we'd get a "Bork bork bork" :megalol: