toutenglisse Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Considering ED's posts, VR stuff is here in the update, but broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDieing Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Are you guys seriously expecting there is a line on the changelog that says: 50% improvement on VR performance. I would never put that in a changelog if I was ED because somebody will probably complain that he only gets a 49% improvement. ''Greed is a bottomless pit which exhausts the person in an endless effort to satisfy the need without ever reaching satisfaction.'' Erich Fromm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Are you guys seriously expecting there is a line on the changelog that says: 50% improvement on VR performance. I would never put that in a changelog if I was ED because somebody will probably complain that he only gets a 49% improvement. It is ED themselves who have always quoted the 50%. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schurem Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Also, if your rig wa previously having a hard time pushing out 45 frames, dipping to 30 and now doing 60 dipping to 45, you wouldn't readily notice the difference because ASW. I5 9600KF, 32GB, 3080ti, G2, PointCTRL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Also, if your rig wa previously having a hard time pushing out 45 frames, dipping to 30 and now doing 60 dipping to 45, you wouldn't readily notice the difference because ASW. Well, switch ASW off then. 30 to 45 is a 50% improvement - obviously! In my experience, the difference between 30 and 45 is quite marked. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boedha68 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Just took a short flight over Dubai, doesn't appear to be significantly different. Thank you Mr_sukebe :D New system:I9-9900KS, Kingston 128 GB DDR4 3200Mhz, MSI RTX 4090, Corsair H150 Pro RGB, 2xSamsung 970 EVO 2Tb, 2xsamsung 970 EVO 1 TB, Scandisk m2 500 MB, 2 x Crucial 1 Tb, T16000M HOTAS, HP Reverb Professional 2, Corsair 750 Watt. Old system:I7-4770K(OC 4.5Ghz), Kingston 24 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz,MSI RTX 2080(OC 2070 Mhz), 2 * 500 GB SSD, 3,5 TB HDD, 55' Samsung 3d tv, Trackir 5, Logitech HD Cam, T16000M HOTAS. All DCS modules, maps and campaigns:pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 It seemed clear from Wags’ post last night that it wouldn’t be in today’s update. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAD-MM Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Just of Curioisty, my updater downloaded 2,8 GB of Deltas? What exactly is this, was afterwards installing Deltas? New Kind of Data Packing? Once you have tasted Flight, you will forever walk the Earth with your Eyes turned Skyward. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 9./JG27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ifikratis Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 This update is huge !. Thank you so much ED for the countless work hours and dedication to perfection. | JF-16 Thunder | F-16C Viper | F-14A/B Tomcat | F/A-18C Hornet | AV-8B N/A Harrier II | AJS-37 Viggen | M-2000C | F-5E Tiger II | A-10C Watrhog | F-86F Sabre | MiG-15bis | MiG-19P Farmer | MiG-21bis | FC3 | L-39 Albatros | C-101 Aviojet | SA342 Gazelle | Mi-24P Hind | Mi-8MTV2 | UH-1H Huey | Ka-50 Black Shark | P-51D Mustang | P-47 Thunderbolt | Spitfire LF Mk. IX | Fw 190 A-8 | Fw 190 D-9 Dora | Bf 109 K-4 Kurfurst | Yak-52 | I-16 | Christen Eagle II | Persian Gulf Map | Nevada Test and Training Range | Normandy 1944 | Syria Map | Channel Map | NS 430 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jafa Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Er what was in this update 30gb ,everything looks the same ,everything plays the same...boring. Cheers Jafa [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy10uk Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Er what was in this update 30gb ,everything looks the same ,everything plays the same...boring. Cheers Jafa Well considering a patch is made of code, what exactly are you expecting to see? The graphics will stay the same, the aircraft won’t magically turn into robots. Just look at the long list of bug fixes to get an idea how much was fixed. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Fighter pilots make movies, Attack pilots make history, Helicopter pilots make heros. :pilotfly: Corsair 570x Crystal Case, Intel 8700K O/clocked to 4.8ghz, 32GB Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3200 MHZ Ram, 2 x 1TB M2 drives, 2 x 4TB Hard Drives, Nvidia EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW, Maximus x Hero MB, H150i Cooler, 6 x Corsair LL120 RGB Fans And a bloody awful Pilot :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted June 6, 2019 Author ED Team Share Posted June 6, 2019 Yup, sorry guys, the VR enhancements are still AWOL. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy10uk Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Yup, sorry guys, the VR enhancements are still AWOL. Ok thanks for letting us know mate. Hate to see what the patch size would have been if they made it in. :megalol: Best things are worth waiting for. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Fighter pilots make movies, Attack pilots make history, Helicopter pilots make heros. :pilotfly: Corsair 570x Crystal Case, Intel 8700K O/clocked to 4.8ghz, 32GB Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3200 MHZ Ram, 2 x 1TB M2 drives, 2 x 4TB Hard Drives, Nvidia EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW, Maximus x Hero MB, H150i Cooler, 6 x Corsair LL120 RGB Fans And a bloody awful Pilot :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrohde Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Yup, sorry guys, the VR enhancements are still AWOL. Could you shed some light on what exactly these VR enhancements are? Curious what's changing under the hood in DCS once those are implemented. Thanks. PC: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X | MSI Suprim GeForce 3090 TI | ASUS Prime X570-P | 128GB DDR4 3600 RAM | 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD | Win10 Pro 64bit Gear: HP Reverb G2 | JetPad FSE | VKB Gunfighter Pro Mk.III w/ MCG Ultimate VKBcontrollers.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schurem Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Now the mystery remains, did the improvements make it in? I only tested it in a short flight so far, and it seemed smooth but not enough to say whether or not. lol ok, so they aren't. huh. Guess clearing out fxo and metashaders2 also did something then :D maybe next week? :D I5 9600KF, 32GB, 3080ti, G2, PointCTRL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 The patch log is immense. Great work and thanks for the font scale thing! Was a very nice surprise to read that point BTW all this talk on VR improvements... what about general performance? Before the Tomcat shipped I had 45-55fps over Dubai, then it crashed down to 22-25 with said update. By OCing my CPU by some hefty ~30%, I could at least get it back up to about 40ish. That's all on a screen, not even VR. And I'm not the only one, there's been lots of reports like mine. I'll gladly take the VR improvements, but I just don't have the funds to buy a 2080 just to get the frames I once had on a 970 on the same 2.5 engine without any visual difference (I had 70-90fps on Caucasus there when it was all new)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Wags Posted June 6, 2019 ED Team Share Posted June 6, 2019 Could you shed some light on what exactly these VR enhancements are? Curious what's changing under the hood in DCS once those are implemented. Thanks. Simply the performance optimization for the Caucasus, Persian Gulf, and Nevada maps. This was working quite well in our internal trunk version, but when moved to the 2.5.5 branch, we lost the optimization. The team is investigating. Once we stomp this gremlin, we'll get this VR performance optimization into a later OB. Thank you for your patience and support. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyfranky Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Yup, sorry guys, the VR enhancements are still AWOL. And this is still a very impressive change log with some interesting new features. Thanks to the team! A warrior's mission is to foster the success of others. i9-12900K | MSI RTX 3080Ti Suprim X | 128 GB Ram 3200 MHz DDR-4 | MSI MPG Edge Z690 | Samung EVO 980 Pro SSD | Virpil Stick, Throttle and Collective | MFG Crosswind | HP Reverb G2 RAT - On the Range - Rescue Helo - Recovery Tanker - Warehouse - Airboss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrohde Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Simply the performance optimization for the Caucasus, Persian Gulf, and Nevada maps. Could you shed some light on what exactly these VR performance optimizations for these maps are? (I guess that's what I should have asked to begin with). :) PC: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X | MSI Suprim GeForce 3090 TI | ASUS Prime X570-P | 128GB DDR4 3600 RAM | 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD | Win10 Pro 64bit Gear: HP Reverb G2 | JetPad FSE | VKB Gunfighter Pro Mk.III w/ MCG Ultimate VKBcontrollers.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boedha68 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Well next week then exclusive VR update! :D New system:I9-9900KS, Kingston 128 GB DDR4 3200Mhz, MSI RTX 4090, Corsair H150 Pro RGB, 2xSamsung 970 EVO 2Tb, 2xsamsung 970 EVO 1 TB, Scandisk m2 500 MB, 2 x Crucial 1 Tb, T16000M HOTAS, HP Reverb Professional 2, Corsair 750 Watt. Old system:I7-4770K(OC 4.5Ghz), Kingston 24 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz,MSI RTX 2080(OC 2070 Mhz), 2 * 500 GB SSD, 3,5 TB HDD, 55' Samsung 3d tv, Trackir 5, Logitech HD Cam, T16000M HOTAS. All DCS modules, maps and campaigns:pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Wags Posted June 6, 2019 ED Team Share Posted June 6, 2019 Well next week then exclusive VR update! :D We certainly hope so, but not something we can promise until we nail down the issue. Thanks Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strikeeagle345 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Strike USLANTCOM.com i7-9700K OC 5GHz| MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON | 32GB DDR4 3200 | GTX 3090 | Samsung SSD | HP Reverb G2 | VIRPIL Alpha | VIRPIL Blackhawk | HOTAS Warthog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jafa Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Could you shed some light on what exactly these VR performance optimizations for these maps are? (I guess that's what I should have asked to begin with). :) Yes and will it make any difference to performance for non VR users Cheers Jafa [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Phantom88 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Thank You very much to the DCS Team for putting in all the extra work to get us the patch today,Cheers to You All!!! Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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