Mustang Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) This article may help out a good number of you who might be experiencing sub par performance with VR or even 2D setups https://windowsreport.com/windows-10-version-1903-gaming/?fbclid=IwAR0C2R_1_PVdg-I3pOPfwIWYC88V8WrVUuK1bQTyhtpNP6bw3xHS9WOXb6U "To understand it better, when you run a game in exclusive fullscreen mode, the image goes from the game directly to your screen. After the update, the game is first rendered, then goes through Windows Desktop, and then to the screen. This leads to input lag and performance issues in many games." I have created the required .reg file for those who want to try this out, it has been tried and tested by many people and everyone I have spoke to have seen a rise in performance, especially those with VR. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1baftisLScNUoN01gSOY7Y98OtIq9IVoK simply download this file and double click it and allow it to modify registry then reboot, it will add the entries as seen in the screenshot attached below. Edited December 15, 2019 by Mustang 1
petsild Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 It may a lot of users to help, Mustang thanks :thumbup: for sharing. MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4, Kingston 3600 MHz 64 Gb, i5 12600K, Gigabyte RTX 4090, Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus,VKB NXT Premium.
bies Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 Is it save, i mean doesn't it cause some other issues? Thanks for posting BTW.
Mustang Posted December 15, 2019 Author Posted December 15, 2019 Is it save, i mean doesn't it cause some other issues? Thanks for posting BTW. Yes it's safe, no other issues are caused by doing this try it and see.
TOYKILLA Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 Is it a performance benefit, if Game Mode already disabled in System Controls? Gesendet von meinem SM-G973F mit Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Thrustmaster Warthog SLM - F/A-18 , MFG Crosswind V2 , Cougar MFD`s , HP Reverb , PointCtrl , i9@5,1Ghz/2080Ti, :joystick: DIY 2DOF Motionsimulator with 4Ch Simshaker :joystick: https://www.facebook.com/micsmotionsimulator
Mustang Posted December 15, 2019 Author Posted December 15, 2019 Is it a performance benefit, if Game Mode already disabled in System Controls? Gesendet von meinem SM-G973F mit Tapatalk The game mode switch and this registry edit seem to function differently to each other, try it and see.
Rudel_chw Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 Thanks, I tought that my Windows 10 LTSC didnt had that Game Mode, but checked the registry keys and found that it was indeed enabled ... so, I'm giving your tip a try ... will report back if the results were notorious or not. For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
104th_Maverick Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 Highly recommend this to everyone! Made a huge difference to my performance after setting this up. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 104th Phoenix Wing Commander / Total Poser / Elitist / Hero / Chad www.104thPhoenix.com www.facebook.com/104thPhoenix My YouTube Channel
Quadg Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 not had a chance to try DCS yet but this has had a noticeable effect in the "the outer worlds". so thanks for the heads up :) My Rig: AM5 7950X, 32GB DDR5 6000, M2 SSD, EVGA 1080 Superclocked, Warthog Throttle and Stick, MFG Crosswinds, Oculus Rift.
Rudel_chw Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 ... will report back if the results were notorious or not. OK, just had a chance to test and can report that, on 1080p DCS I'm seeing an around a 50% increase on FPS on average, without altering a single graphics setting on my DCS ... so, a really worthwhile tuning. I will soon test on VR and complete the report :D 1 For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
Ala12Rv-Birdman Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 Thanks, I tought that my Windows 10 LTSC didnt had that Game Mode, but checked the registry keys and found that it was indeed enabled ... so, I'm giving your tip a try ... will report back if the results were notorious or not. How do you check in the registry keys if the game mode is active? Thanks Spanish Ala12rv Pilot Nevada TTR // Persian Gulf // Syria // South Atlantic T.35C Tamiz // C-101 Mirlo // F-5E Tiger // FA-18C Hornet // Mirage F1 // EF2K!!! // F-14B Tomcat // F-16C Viper MSI.Z690 // i9-12900F 5.1GHz // RTX3090 24GB // DDR5 5600Mhz 64GB QuestPro // Hotas.Warthog // MFG.Crosswind // WW.Panels // TK.ICP // MFD.Cougar // Jetseat
toutenglisse Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 Hi Mustang! Is there a way to cancel / reset this registry mod ? (Simply for testing purpose or if any trouble)
Renko Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 The WIN10 update is the 1903 or the new 1909 ?
Lenux Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 Hi Mustang! Is there a way to cancel / reset this registry mod ? (Simply for testing purpose or if any trouble) Just make a backup of the registry file, before you apply this one Off topic question : about 3 - 4 years ago, everytime when I started the simulator, I pressed Alt + Enter, for real full screen Is that still necessary ? Thank you I9 12900k@ 5 GHz | 32 GB DDR4 | Asus ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming Wifi d4| RTX 3090 | 6 TB SSD + 8 TB HDD | 4K Samsung Q90R 55" | VKB MK III PRO L | Virpil Throttle MONGOOST-50 | MFG Crosswind | TrackIR5
MegOhm_SD Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) The WIN10 update is the 1903 or the new 1909 ? The Windows Report says 1903. Would this have to be redone after all future Windows updates? Edited December 15, 2019 by MegOhm_SD Cooler Master HAF XB EVO , ASUS P8Z77-V, i7-3770K @ 4.6GHz, Noctua AC, 32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro, EVGA 1080TI 11GB, 2 Samsung 840 Pro 540GB SSDs Raid 0, 1TB HDD, EVGA SuperNOVA 1300W PS, G930 Wireless SS Headset, TrackIR5/Wireless Proclip, TM Warthog, Saitek Pro Combat Pedals, 75" Samsung 4K QLED, HP Reverb G2, Win 10
toutenglisse Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 Just make a backup of the registry file, before you apply this one ... Thanks Lenux. I just made a screenshot of "GameConfigStore" part of registry, showing actual values to put them back to default when I want. Mod is simply right click on the line / modify value by 0, 1 or 2. Noticed that on my registry there is a line missing, comparing to Mustang's screenshot (GameDVR-FSEBehavior)
jrasia Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) I'm not seeing a performance difference in VR. Running HP reverb. Full screen more is disabled in DCS video settings. EDIT: If I enable Full Screen in DCS video settings and then press ALT+Enter to make my mirrored VR display full screen, I do see a few FPS increase. Nothing crazy, but every frame helps:) Nice find. Edited December 15, 2019 by jrasia I9 9900k - z390- 2080 super - 32gb ddr5 - Hp Reverb
Chapa Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 Windows 10 1909 here but this key is missing: GameDVR_FSEBehaviour, however all other exist. Something has probably changed between 1903 and 1909. i7 12700k, RTX 3080ti, 64GB RAM, M.2 512Go, Quest 3
Eaglewings Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 Odyssey plus here and no noticeable change in fps but it seems to improve fps in dcs 2D screen mode and other games. Windows 10 Pro 64bit|Ryzen 5600 @3.8Ghz|EVGA RTX 3070 XC3 Ultra|Corair vengence 32G DDR4 @3200mhz|MSI B550|Thrustmaster Flightstick| Virpil CM3 Throttle| Thrustmaster TFRP Rudder Pedal /Samsung Odyssey Plus Headset
maxTRX Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 I'm not seeing a performance difference in VR. Running HP reverb. Full screen more is disabled in DCS video settings. What's the benefit of running with full screen disabled?
Bailey Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 I'm getting a 4 to 10 FPS increase in DCS. Hard Spring A10 Instant Mission 2D NonFullScreen 91-78 Fullscreen 91-83 After Mod and Reboot NonFullScreen 96-87 Fullscreen 96-89 I didn't have the GameDVR_FSEBehaviour line in my registry. I hope others have better results! ~Bailey DCS VoiceAttack Profiles | My Mods and Utilities on ED User Files | DiCE: DCS Integrated Countermeasure Editor DCS Update Witching Utility | DCS-ExportScripts for Stream Deck Community Github Library | Kiowa Integrated Overlays
toutenglisse Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 I compared performances in VR (VR test : 30s flight strait forward in "TF51D Free Flight Tibilissi") Exact same Fps (62 stable in both cases) The GameDVR-Enabled set to 0 didn't kept the value after rebooting until I unchecked it in Game bar windows setting also. The missing line (FSEBehavior) I didn't add it, only modifying the lines I have in common. After test I re-opened Regedit to be sure the values were still Mustang's ones. I guess in VR the Mod makes no differences (also seeing other's VR results) probably because VR manages its own fullscreen and Vsync ? ...
jrasia Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 To those with VR when applying this registry edit Make sure to enabled "Full Screen" in your DCS video settings. Press ALT+Enter to make your mirrored VR display take up the full width of your monitor and not just a windowed display. I'm now seeing about a 3 - 5 FPS increase. I guess because the windows desktop no longer has to be rendered, it frees up some resources. Nice little tweak Question. Is there a way to always make the mirrored desktop display full screen, instead of having to press ALT+Enter each time in VR? I9 9900k - z390- 2080 super - 32gb ddr5 - Hp Reverb
Mustang Posted December 15, 2019 Author Posted December 15, 2019 The WIN10 update is the 1903 or the new 1909 ? Using 1909 and it works fine.
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