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[VDV]

Hi there, only single player pilot here (Im just playing campaings). So I was wondering - Will be a campaing for AH-64D when ist ready for EA? Because im not gonna buy it, if there are not campaing.

[doedkoett]

There are usually no campaigns ready for a module at Early Access release. When the module is released out of EA (Usually after a few years), then there might be a few 3rd party campaigns available. I have no idea if ED is including a campaign of their own this time. So just hold on to your money and check the forums for news.

[ams999]

56 minutes ago, VDV said:

Because im not gonna buy it, if there are not campaing.

Then I guess you'll have to wait even longer than the rest of us - Your money, your choice.

[VDV]

23 minutes ago, doedkoett said:

There are usually no campaigns ready for a module at Early Access release. When the module is released out of EA (Usually after a few years), then there might be a few 3rd party campaigns available. I have no idea if ED is including a campaign of their own this time. So just hold on to your money and check the forums for news.

Ok and what do i need to play when it will not have a Campaing? Its so stupid..

[OfficerBull]

Check the user downloads. A lot of people have probably made a bunch of missions using the KA-50 as a substitute. All they have to do is change the aircraft to a AH-64, and then make it public. I'm pretty sure the F-16 had a few Missions on release, I'm not too sure though, I don't really fly it that often. Or you could take a crack at the mission editor. Find a friend that also only plays singleplayer, and create missions for each other.  There are opportunities out there

[Wychmaster]

Once you figured out how to fly the Apache and utilize all its systems, I bet there will be plenty of content here:

https://forums.eagle.ru/forum/81-missions-and-campaigns/

If not, try this:

https://github.com/dcs-liberation/dcs_liberation

 

[Raptor9]

39 minutes ago, VDV said:

Ok and what do i need to play when it will not have a Campaing? Its so stupid..

You could try the Mission Builder on the main menu. It allows you to set a handful of parameters, and then it automatically generates a mission based on your choices.

It won't be a mission-to-mission flow like a campaign, but it does provide a tool to rapidly generate new missions you may like until a campaign is released.

[LooseSeal]

1 hour ago, VDV said:

Ok and what do i need to play when it will not have a Campaing? Its so stupid..

No offence, but... you were going to buy the module, spend all that time to learn it and then... just play the campaign and then stop? Or play it all over again? And again? Sorry, but going through all of that just to play one campaign seems unusual to me.

This has been the way with every single DCS module release. However, judging by what some 3rd Party creators are saying, the Apache may end up having more campaigns than any of them.

Don't forget, some in the community will have their own campaigns and missions posted to the User Files section reasonably quickly anyway. You could also use existing mods like DCS Liberation, if you like. There are, and will be, other options out there.

[Beirut]

1 hour ago, VDV said:

Ok and what do i need to play when it will not have a Campaing? Its so stupid..

 

Get into the Mission Editor. Build your own test flights to get familiar with the module and then start building more and more challenging missions. DCS has an excellent mission editor and after a few short Youtube tutorials you'll be able to make some good flights really quickly. Try different scenarios on different maps. There's tons of variety.

 

I live in the Mission Editor, 100% of my flights come from there.

Edited February 26, 2022 by Beirut

[doedkoett]

2 hours ago, VDV said:

Ok and what do i need to play when it will not have a Campaing? Its so stupid..

I am pretty sure there will be a lot of 3rd party campaigns available for the Apache, but I am pretty sure that they will not be ready when the Apache is released in to Early Access. The campaign makers need to have access to the module too!
Either you wait and see what campaigns will be created for the Apache before making any purchasing decision, or you learn the Mission Editor and create missions of your own. There is an entire thread about suitable mission ideas for the Apache in this forum.
Me, I am going to create my own campaigns and missions for it and play them with my friends. 
 

[sirrah]

4 hours ago, VDV said:

Ok and what do i need to play when it will not have a Campaing? Its so stupid..

You obviously have no clue on how much work (properly realistic) campaign/mission creation beholds.. 

Try it yourself and you'll see..

The Apache will be released as early access, which means that many systems will not work yet an be WIP. So, creating a campaign now, would mean you'd only have a part/fraction of the module functionality available. Which would also mean less campaign mission options, or a massive amount of rework while the module evolves/changes

Edited February 26, 2022 by sirrah

[Fakum]

I dont know if I would say its stupid? I think there are alot of people (like myself) that simply fly on Multiplayer servers. Enjoy!

[Dragon1-1]

Baltic Dragon already has a campaign planned for the AH-64D. It'll take a while (good campaigns always do), but it'll surely be great, as BD campaigns tend to be.  

[Hammer1-1]

You can rest assured there will be campaigns available for the apache within a few weeks of it released. Youll just have to find them in the files download section if you dont mind them being 3rd party guys. To be honest though, you should just hope to get training missions off the bat.

Edited February 26, 2022 by Hammer1-1

[joey45]

You learn the helicopter.

[Sukhoi1991]

don't worry,there would be thounds user-made missions available afer release,

[Zarma]

It will be a great campaign as it will be created by Baltic Dragon and Casmo ! 

But if you fly only campaigns and single player, you are missing a LOT of stuff. 

[DN308]

I guess there would a possibility to convert some campaigns from a plane to the Apache

[DN308]

As a single player and IOT enjoy the most the Apache capacities, it would be great to have a campaign from the beginning of the release.

Is that possible?

[Hammer1-1]

The Huey campaign could be a start, someone did that for the Hind.

[AlphaOneSix]

There will not be a campaign at EA release, but there will be one added sometime during Early Access by the time it is officially released.

[DN308]

Thanks for that

[skins45]

On 2/26/2022 at 7:26 AM, VDV said:

Ok and what do i need to play when it will not have a Campaing? Its so stupid..

You sound whiny. Stop playing the victim, grab your sack and download one of the hundreds of 3rd party missions/campaigns that will come out in the first 2 weeks and enjoy.  Or don't and sulk in your own laziness.

Edited February 28, 2022 by skins45

[Paladin71]

There is a mission editor. You could create some basic missions to get familiar with the flight characteristics and learn the weapons and targeting systems. Doesn't have to be anything fancy. That would keep you plenty busy until the official campains and training missions come out. That's what I usually do.

Just throwing it out there as an option. 

As a suggestion, just open the mission editor and drop an Apache at an airfield (ie, in the Marianas Islands) and practice cold start, take off, navigation, and landing. You could do some island hopping. Doesn't take much effort to accomplish that.

Edited February 28, 2022 by Paladin71

[frostycab]

On 2/26/2022 at 12:26 PM, VDV said:

Ok and what do i need to play when it will not have a Campaing? Its so stupid..

ED have already said that the Apache will have some missions included in the EA release, so there's going to be Apache-focussed content from Day 1. You can bet your ass that online servers will be adding slots for the Apache the moment it becomes available. The mission editor is there to let you create your own missions, but if you're not adept at at that then I suspect the user files area of the ED site will fill up with missions pretty fast. If we get a dozen or so SP missions at launch then that's pretty much equivalent to a whole campaign, just without the underlying story linking them together.

Everything takes time. Right now you'd think that people's worlds are going to end if the Apache isn't released within the next 5 minutes. If you think you can convince them to calm down and wait an extra month so that there's a full campaign ready to play on Day 1 of the EA launch then nobody is going to stop you. We also won't be climbing out of our bunkers to come and save you when they try to feed you to the dogs. LOL 

If it helps, another way to think of it is to consider EA as an aircraft validation period and crew qualification time. The end of EA can represent the aircraft and crew becoming certified and ready for deployment.