single push to eject keybind

[LeCuvier]

3 hours ago, 9thHunt said:

I've done some modding to the control .luas before, the only problem with that is it gets overwritten every time there's a DCS update.

No problem thanks to OvGME

[9thHunt]

Ok, I got myself an X-Key button which I can map to repeat the eject keybind 3 times with one button press.  However, something fishy is going on with that keybind.

This button works fine in the Tomcat, which as @draconus mentioned above might not actually require 3 presses, however, I'm finding that in the Hornet and Viper at least, sometimes I still have to push the button multiple times to eject.  I've checked with X-key's tech support, and their tech said I programmed the button correctly.  I've also tried pressing the keys on my keyboard for verification and they also seem to have the same problem.  Sometimes I have to press the keys as many as six times to get a successful ejection.

Has anyone else experienced this issue?  Am I not typing fast enough?  How quickly do I actually have to press the key combo to actually expect it to work?  I programmed the macro with a half second delay between repetitions, but I've also tried setting it up with no delay at all.

Edit: I removed the delay again and now it seems to work about 3 out of 4 ejections in the Hornet. and seemingly flawlessly in the other jets I tried, maybe a half second was too long of a delay.

Edited November 29, 2022 by 9thHunt

[Pavespawn]

On 11/10/2022 at 4:32 PM, LeCuvier said:

I have never seen the triple command as a big problem, but there is a simple LUA edit to execute the underlying command "iCommandPlaneEject" 3 times with a single button press.
To achieve this, I added the following line of code

{down = iCommandPlaneEject, pressed = iCommandPlaneEject, up = iCommandPlaneEject,	name = _('Eject (press once)'),	category = _('Systems')},

into the file "default.lua" in the folder "K:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Config\Input\UiLayer\keyboard". This creates the new keyboard command "Eject (press once)" in the UI Layer. This will make the command available for all modules that use the command ""iCommandPlaneEject" with a single binding. The remaining challenge is to find a key combination not yet used for any command, but the new 2.8 functionality helps with that. You could also make the command available for game controllers by adding it into the "default.lua" under "...\joystick".

 

Sorry for reviving an old thread but this works great. Especially with JSGME.   I made my own ejection handle and added this to the joystick default.lua and presto, I have an ejection handle that works without pulling it three times. 
There should just be a tic box in the misc menu or whatever that lets you choose single press ejection. 

[void68]

Exactly, LeCuvier's .lua edit is the simple solution.

In a simpit, you don't need hardly any key at all anymore, and there's no simple "oh, I hit the ejection button by accident". The problem with 3rd party util programs like RS Mapper is they work fine... for a certain period. They aren't maintenanced, they may be buggy and especially RSMapper collapses if one USB device gets unplugged. I tried to get rid of all these aux program and with some .lua editing (check out LeCuvier's guide!) my...5 Bodnarboards and several Arduinos don't need any intermediate program anymore, not even for 3 state switches.

Just remember to edit the ...\DCS World\Mods\aircraft\yourAircraft\Input\yourAircraft\joystick\default.lua to route the 1x Eject directly to the joystick or boards, not the keyboard.

Edited February 19, 2023 by void68

[HILOK]

+1

lecuvier's solution is great, and a mod manager solves the dcs update problem. but wouldn't it be much more convenient, if a simple optional single-press command could be introduced globally (same for all a/c) by ED?

[LeCuvier]

I would be happy if ED provided a solution that allows us to add bindings that are not lost during updates. The Mod manager helps, but it does not merge new ED-introduced bindings or changes to existing bindings into our modified LUA files.

[Baldrick33]

11 minutes ago, LeCuvier said:

I would be happy if ED provided a solution that allows us to add bindings that are not lost during updates. The Mod manager helps, but it does not merge new ED-introduced bindings or changes to existing bindings into our modified LUA files.

Though not an ED provided solution isn't that what the Quaggles input command injector does?

https://github.com/Quaggles/dcs-input-command-injector

[LeCuvier]

3 hours ago, Baldrick33 said:

Though not an ED provided solution isn't that what the Quaggles input command injector does?

https://github.com/Quaggles/dcs-input-command-injector

Yes, but it's custom code heroically developed by an enthusiast, and that code could be broken by any future ED update.

[PRLJpoisoncobra]

I tried editing the code, but no success.

Is ED team able to add an alternative single press eject command- left empty for the user to assign a key/button in any column of their choice ( keyboard, joystick custom controller aka-ejection handle! )

This would be really helpful for those with simpit ejection handles! 

I dont want to add more 3rd party apps to make a macro or edit the game code that could get overwritten when updates occur or when i reinstall the game on a new computer. 

Please ED! 

[BIGNEWY]

Hi,

three press for eject is hardcoded and wont be changed sorry. 

Personally I have mine setup on a macro.

[LeCuvier]

20 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

Personally I have mine setup on a macro.

A macro in ED?

[Rudel_chw]

4 minutes ago, LeCuvier said:

A macro in ED?

 

You have a TM warthog .. you can easily program a button for this three key sequence, using TARGET.

[LeCuvier]

I continue to use my LUA edit (posted a year ago in this thread), a simple line of LUA code. And I have bound the command to the Right Windows button. I have never ejected by mistake.
And I'm now using it with the "Command Injector" developed by Quaggles. That works very well. It was broken by the udate to 2.9, but Quaggles fixed that in a couple of days.
Only worry is, when one day Quaggles will no longer support this, the solution is dead. I have looked at the file and I cannot figure out how it works.

@BIGNEWY: is there any chance that ED would integrate that functionality? I think the potential benefits are obvious!

[draconus]

3 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said:

using TARGET

That's what we try to avoid - using external apps.

30 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

three press for eject is hardcoded and wont be changed sorry

It works in F-14 as single press, just saying.

Edited November 10, 2023 by draconus

[LeCuvier]

5 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said:

 

You have a TM warthog .. you can easily program a button for this three key sequence, using TARGET.

Yes I have a TM Warthog, but I've uninstalled TARGET years ago.
I would rather use Voice Attack.

Edited November 10, 2023 by LeCuvier

[BIGNEWY]

I actually have mine setup on a second logitech mouse on my left side, its a G600 with many buttons and I use the logitech software to create macros. 

32 minutes ago, draconus said:

It works in F-14 as single press, just saying.

I have asked the team before about changing the three press eject and was told we wont be changing it for our modules. 

[LeCuvier]

34 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

I have asked the team before about changing the three press eject and was told we wont be changing it for our modules.

I guess my question could be misunderstood. I mean the functionality of @Quaggles Command Injector. This allows users to add command bindings in a "default.lua" under \Saved Games. These don't get lost in the process of updating. Quaggles has achieved that by editing the file "Data.lua" under "DRIVE:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Scripts\Input".
The obvious issue is that this customization can be (and has been) broken when the stock file "Data.lua" is modified in an update. So far Quaggles is maintaining the customization but he won't be doing that forever. The functionality makes sense to a lot of people, and I believe it would make sense for ED to integrate it in the product.

[buceador]

Simply solution...

Drive the Viper, dead pilots don't eject and even harsh words across the radio kill the Viper driver 

[MAXsenna]

I guess my question could be misunderstood. I mean the functionality of @Quaggles Command Injector. This allows users to add command bindings in a "default.lua" under \Saved Games. These don't get lost in the process of updating. Quaggles has achieved that by editing the file "Data.lua" under "DRIVE:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Scripts\Input".
The obvious issue is that this customization can be (and has been) broken when the stock file "Data.lua" is modified in an update. So far Quaggles is maintaining the customization but he won't be doing that forever. The functionality makes sense to a lot of people, and I believe it would make sense for ED to integrate it in the product.

I second this. Maybe this wish disserves it's on thread.

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[Tom Kazansky]

What about configuring the key to a repeat-key-as-long-as-it-is-depessed-functionality?

i.e. you just press and hold it till you have ejected, no matter if the system recognised exactly all 3 presses.

Would also avoid unintended ejection by hitting it once/for a very short period of time.

[PRLJpoisoncobra]

Don't nessesarily need ED to change the current control, leave that as it is, but.. also make an alternative command available. Could this be forwarded to the team for consideration? 

I have logitec mouse too which is great but ejection via handle is what im going for. 

Eject (3 press)  "LCTRL +E" 

Eject (1press)  "blank" 

Just need to see that in the controls list.

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[buceador]

As someone already mentioned, VoiceAttack works perfectly and to be honest in the heat of the situation you really don't want to be scrambling for multiple key presses!

[Tank50us]

7 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

I have asked the team before about changing the three press eject and was told we wont be changing it for our modules. 

Would it be possible to change it to a "modifier" that can also be used for other areas. Basically, pressing a key multiple times has another affect, for example disengaging autopilot or auto-throttle. Or changing the modifier ourselves for the ejection handle so that we can turn it into a single button-press (could be useful for people making simpits)