Moxica Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Nice to see I'm not alone. Using Reverb G2. I'm falling asleep waiting for it to load. 4 ASUS ROG Strix B550-E GAMING - PNY GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming VERTO EPIC-X - AMD Ryzen 9 5900X - 64Gb RAM - 2x2Tb M2 - Win11 - HP Reverb g2 - Oculus Quest 2 - Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS - Thrustmaster Pendular Rudder - 2X Thrustmaster MFD Cougar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Lace said: I've been here a while, and my experience with OB patches, is that it is often one step forward, two steps back, but long term things get sorted eventually. MT is still unusable for me, for instance, but I'm confident ED will get there eventually. With module announcements coming sometimes a decade before release, patience, when DCS is concerned, is most definitely a virtue. Please, don't minimize this. The change is very large in terms of % and is caused by some negative resource allocation. Possibly VRAM, RAM, or something else, in any case too many processes are going on that haven't happened before. This may also be the tip of the iceberg, as there are also occasional freezes in the game starting with this patch, which has been addressed here. acc. For me, both issues are related. It's not only the opening but also the closing of DCS and perhaps micro freezes during gameplay. 3 Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buceador Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 6 hours ago, Tepnox said: I would like to contribute some more logs. Having DCS installed and running on my second PC behaves with exactly the same issues regarding startup-time. These are the results after updating to DCS 2.8.6.41363 Open Beta and slow-repair, second startup: dcs MT 2.8.6.41363.log around 100 seconds with MT dcs ST 2.8.6.41363.log around 93 seconds with ST Rolling back (slow repair and second startup) to prior update DCS 2.8.6.41066 Open Beta results in: dcs MT 2.8.6.41066.log around 30 seconds with MT dcs ST 2.8.6.41066.log around 30 seconds with ST Same here - around 90 seconds now ST/MT and around 34 seconds before - this doesn't make me suicidal but it's a big percentage increase in loading times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noisy_lightning Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 I don't have access to logs right now but I would like to also echo my very slow load and shut down times. DCS is on a dedicated Samsung 980pro nvme drive, so no slouch, and load times on both ST and MT have gone from ~30sec to in excess of five minutes on one occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 MT gives me about a 110 second load time ST gives me about 80 second load time logs attached ST dcs.log MT dcs.log 1 SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyeddie Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Tried this with Vanilla Game, NO mods of any kind, loading time vary from 3 to 5 minutes. Once game is running loading a mission is no slower than it was previously, reinstalled many Mods etc and its exactly the same, so pretty certain its a game loading issue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 @BIGNEWY topic for connection. Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro3818 Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 I have the same issue. My connection is up to 300Mbps. My computer is also hard-wired to Internet, not wireless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatoAviator Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 22 minutes ago, crazyeddie said: Tried this with Vanilla Game, NO mods of any kind, loading time vary from 3 to 5 minutes. Once game is running loading a mission is no slower than it was previously, reinstalled many Mods etc and its exactly the same, so pretty certain its a game loading issue. +1 ^ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr. Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) Same. (Since last patch/install of F-15E) I guess the MT version load times weren't bad enough so we had to extend them to ST version. 2.5+ minutes to get here... then get to stare at the empty progress bar for another couple minutes. null Edited June 26, 2023 by Sr. Ryzen 7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3600| MSI RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC | Samsung 970 Evo 2TB NVME | HP Reverb G2 | DIY Head Tracker Cap | Logitech X-56 throttle | VKB NXT Premium | Win 11 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Trooper Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Very long load times. I am constantly looking from under my VR headset to see if the game has hung! HP G2 Reverb, Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate as standard. OpenXR user, Open XR tool kit disabled. Open XR was a massive upgrade for me. DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), 0 X MSAA, 0 X SSAA. My real IPD is 64.5mm. Prescription VROptition lenses installed. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC at the mo. MT user (2 - 5 fps gain). DCS run at 60Hz. Vaicom user. Thrustmaster warthog user. MFG pedals with damper upgrade.... and what an upgrade! Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height with brail enhancements to ensure 100% button activation in VR.. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound.... you know when you are dropping into VRS with this bad boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacab Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 I have the same issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted June 26, 2023 ED Team Share Posted June 26, 2023 threads merged. please continue to add dcs logs if you have them from sessions with long load times. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Everyone who has a comment on this thread add a log file, +1 indicative, log files are actual data... 1 SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inZane Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Noticed long load times in ST. Attached log dcs.log Gigabyte 6800XT Master 16GB, AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, Gigabyte X570 Aorus Ultra MB, 32GB Ram, Meta Quest 2 VR installed on Netac 2TB M.2 drive Winwing Orion2 base with f-16EX grip, Winwing Orion2 Throttle with F-18 Grip Currently member of VAF 136 (F/A-18C Squadron). DCS Modules F/A-18C, A-10II-C, F-15E, F-16, AH-64D, KA50-III, F-5, P-51D and FC3 aircraft. Terrain Modules: Persian Gulf, Caucus, Nevada Test Training Range (NTTR), Syria, South Atlantic, Sinai and Normandy 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moxica Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Sorry, forgot the log: dcs.log ASUS ROG Strix B550-E GAMING - PNY GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming VERTO EPIC-X - AMD Ryzen 9 5900X - 64Gb RAM - 2x2Tb M2 - Win11 - HP Reverb g2 - Oculus Quest 2 - Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS - Thrustmaster Pendular Rudder - 2X Thrustmaster MFD Cougar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) dcs.log My record, about 7 minutes, wow (ok, with mods, basically terrain, trees and smoke but before the last update, I didn't change anything, and it was about 30 seconds only and it was probably the maximum). I did slow repair. It doesnt help. Edited June 27, 2023 by YoYo Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxTwo Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 load time 1:37.65 MT client dcs.log Absolutely excessive for the IO capabilities of my system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr. Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 15 minute wait... just to CTD. Would love to upload my log file... 1 Ryzen 7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3600| MSI RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC | Samsung 970 Evo 2TB NVME | HP Reverb G2 | DIY Head Tracker Cap | Logitech X-56 throttle | VKB NXT Premium | Win 11 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snacko Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) Same here... On my i9 10850k; 4090; 64gb RAM, and installed on M.2 it is very noticeably longer. At least twice as long as before 2.8 I think.. This is from two logs after I renamed my Saved Games DCS OB folder, and cleaned out all mods for the install folder. Then did a slow Repair.. It's spending over 15 secs trying to load a SouthAtlantic.dll? Seems strange that this dll is in a buried 'bin' folder? But maybe that's by design... 2023-06-26 23:55:07.692 INFO Scripting (Main): PLUGINS DONE-------------------------------------------------- 2023-06-26 23:55:20.980 INFO EDCORE (Main): Loaded D:/My Programs/DCS World OpenBeta/CoreMods/tech/SouthAtlanticAssets/bin/SouthAtlantic.dll 2023-06-26 23:45:08.734 INFO Scripting (Main): PLUGINS DONE-------------------------------------------------- 2023-06-26 23:45:21.000 INFO EDCORE (Main): Loaded D:/My Programs/DCS World OpenBeta/CoreMods/tech/SouthAtlanticAssets/bin/SouthAtlantic.dll dcs.log Edited June 27, 2023 by Snacko 1 Intel I9-10850K (OC @ 5.0ghz) │ Asus Maximus XII Hero │ G.Skill Ripjaws 64GB (4x16GB) DDR4 3200 │ Thermaltake Water 360mm Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC 24gb │ 2TB M.2 EVO Pro; 1T M.2 EVO; Sandisk SSD Drives │ 49" Samsung Curved Widescreen │ 28" Touchscreen - ҉ - Blackshark Cockpit Trainer - ҉ - ♣ Thread | ♥ Download Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr. Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, YoYo said: Please, don't minimize this. The change is very large in terms of % and is caused by some negative resource allocation. Possibly VRAM, RAM, or something else, in any case too many processes are going on that haven't happened before. This may also be the tip of the iceberg, as there are also occasional freezes in the game starting with this patch, which has been addressed here. acc. For me, both issues are related. It's not only the opening but also the closing of DCS and perhaps micro freezes during gameplay. As far a resources go... I noticed this the first time I reported this behavior when it first appeared (for me) in MT. I would sit there waiting, and could eventually hear my CPU and GPU spin down to silent. It was several times like this that I noticed when I took off my G2 to see what was up, the fans would spin back to life, and the sim would continue loading. At that point I would simply sit with my G2 in my lap watching my monitor... wait for the progress to halt, fans go silent and them I would simply touch the sensor between the lenses of the G2. Which would immediately cause my CPU/GPU to fans to spin up again, and the sim would continue loading. I think the most bothersome aspect of this "bug" is I saw little to no fix for it on the MT side and had switched back to ST. Only change since, apparently they've migrated it to the ST side. and still can't upload my log file. Edited June 27, 2023 by Sr. upload log file 3rd attempt Ryzen 7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3600| MSI RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC | Samsung 970 Evo 2TB NVME | HP Reverb G2 | DIY Head Tracker Cap | Logitech X-56 throttle | VKB NXT Premium | Win 11 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomBoom Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Please speed up load time for DCS. Over 2 or 3 minutes at least every time, crazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchumiF399 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 add me to the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Sr. said: 15 minute wait... just to CTD. Would love to upload my log file... You have to delete some other things you have uploaded... SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livers Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) Single threaded, flat screen. Before update, 1:45 to main menu. After update, 4:45. Edited to add - why is this an "Installation Problem" ? dcs.log Edited June 27, 2023 by Livers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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