obotNapalm Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Count me in for a colour copy. Maybe someone should put a rough poll up, £16.99 for B&W (current Black Shark manual cost on Amazon), or say £39.99 for full colour? If it helped, I think the pre-order system could be good, so long as they don't go and update the PDF copies soon after the paper manual is printed :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sofie_59 Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 (edited) Count me in for a colour copy. Maybe someone should put a rough poll up, £16.99 for B&W (current Black Shark manual cost on Amazon), or say £39.99 for full colour? If it helped, I think the pre-order system could be good, so long as they don't go and update the PDF copies soon after the paper manual is printed :) Count me in for a full colour to :thumbup: And what is say£39.99 ca 600 sek That is what you pay for a Good Book! I can go up to 1000 sek for a Full colour manual Edited July 4, 2010 by sofie_59 MB:MSI X79A-GD45 CPU:Intel Core i7 3930K 3.2GHz Ram:16 gb Grafik :GTX 680 Sli Win 7 64 bit 1200 W 2 ssd 120 gb 1 2 TB western Digital Caviar Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Davies Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 The problem is that colour printing is twice the cost of black&white, and we feel that it would be too expensive for many users. Jim It shouldn't be twice the cost. Who is printing it for you? PM me if you want to talk - I might be able to help you out. Steve Davies https://www.10percenttrue.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 How about only having parts of the manual in colour? Personally I don't see a real need for most parts to be printed in colour, only sections on the MFCDs and any other system where symbology/switch/indicator light colour is important would really benefit in my opinion. I don't know if that would make a difference in price, but I would think it'd be cheaper if use of colour is limited to where it really matters. Either way, I'll be buying. Spoiler Intel 13900K (5Ghz), 64Gb 6400Mhz, MSi RTX 3090, Schiit Modi/Magi DAC/AMP, ASUS PG43UQ, Hotas Warthog, RealSimulator FSSB3, 2x TM MFDs + DCS MFDs, MFG Crosswinds, Elgato Steamdeck XL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team JimMack Posted July 4, 2010 ED Team Share Posted July 4, 2010 How about only having parts of the manual in colour? Personally I don't see a real need for most parts to be printed in colour, only sections on the MFCDs and any other system where symbology/switch/indicator light colour is important would really benefit in my opinion. I don't know if that would make a difference in price, but I would think it'd be cheaper if use of colour is limited to where it really matters. Either way, I'll be buying. OK - we will investigate further Having problems? Visit http://en.wiki.eagle.ru/wiki/Main_Page Dell Laptop M1730 -Vista- Intel Core 2 Duo T7500@2.2GHz, 4GB, Nvidia 8700MGT 767MB Intel i7 975 Extreme 3.2GHZ CPU, NVidia GTX 570 1.28Gb Pcie Graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alicatt Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Thanks, a colour manual would be much more preferable :thumbup: Now if it was like the original limited edition LOMAC one even better :music_whistling: Sons of Dogs, Come Eat Flesh Clan Cameron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konovalov Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 I would definately prefer a colour manual having purchased in the past prior manuals in B & W. And I would be willing to pay extra for it. Intel i7-8700K | Asus Maximus X Formula | Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | Gainward Phoenix GTX1070 GLH | Samsung 960 EVO NVMe 1 x 250GB OS & 1 x 500GB Games | Corsair RM750x 750W | Corsair Carbide Air 540| Win10 | Dell 27" 1440p 60Hz | Custom water loop: CPU EK-Supremacy EVO, GPU EK-GTX JetStream - Acetal+Nickel & Backplate, Radiator EK-Coolstream PE 360, Pump & Res EK-XRES 140 Revo D5, Fans 3 x EK-Vardar 120mm & 2 x Corsair ML140 140mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwaze Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 The Modern Hog Guide (Red Air Publications, 2007) has only 120 pages, and it's $40. I guess DCS: A-10C Warthog's manuals will be at least as long as DCS: Ka50 Black Shark (548 pages, $30). I think price could be lower if just a critical range would be printed in colour, but I'm willing to pay the premium for not only a game manual but also a most up to date and precise book on any modern western aircraft. And it's munitions. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Wags Posted July 4, 2010 ED Team Share Posted July 4, 2010 (edited) More like 700 pages right now. Edited July 4, 2010 by Wags Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Viper Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 More like 700 pages right now. That's a lot of pages! :D Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyoteros Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Well, manual is something you don't have to buy every week, so Hard back and colour should be the one to go for, even if it's more expensive as long as it going to last. I personally don't like ring bound, remainds me of cheap A-Z and I start loosing pages second time I open it. It should be a properly made colour hardback to last, a definete buy. Love Quality! "Eagle Dynamics" - simulating human madness since 1991 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ۞ ۞ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itkovian Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 While I would prefer colour, I would prefer having a printed manual at all even more. :) So if black and white it must be, then I'll be fine with it. But certainly, if there is a chance we can have it in colour, I'd definitely order it. Itkovian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy10uk Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Ok Jim, count me in Again, Just love the job on the blackshark Manual, and can see this one being even better. Not only have you guys giving me the best heli sim in the world, Now you are doing it for my favorate combat fixed wing. I dont think im ever gonna thank you enough. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Fighter pilots make movies, Attack pilots make history, Helicopter pilots make heros. :pilotfly: Corsair 570x Crystal Case, Intel 8700K O/clocked to 4.8ghz, 32GB Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3200 MHZ Ram, 2 x 1TB M2 drives, 2 x 4TB Hard Drives, Nvidia EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW, Maximus x Hero MB, H150i Cooler, 6 x Corsair LL120 RGB Fans And a bloody awful Pilot :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krippz Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Well, manual is something you don't have to buy every week, so Hard back and colour should be the one to go for, even if it's more expensive as long as it going to last. I personally don't like ring bound, remainds me of cheap A-Z and I start loosing pages second time I open it. It should be a properly made colour hardback to last, a definete buy. Love Quality! I would prefer a hardcover manual aswell. I had a bad experience with the ring-bound BlackShark manual (e.g. A few pages in the rear coming out or ripping). [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deigs Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 I would pay ANYTHING for a full colour, and hard cover spiral bound manual. Preferably printed on slightly thicker paper then the 'bible paper' on the KA50 printed manual. Seriously I would be looking into supplying it in colour. The demand is there. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 161 Squadron Australia's DCS Community Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Jaw Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Seriously I would be looking into supplying it in colour. The demand is there. Too bad the cash aint, at least not for me. "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, ASUS RTX3060ti/8GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog 7.62 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 I would agree that trying to find a balance between black and white and color. with only parts in color to keep the price down a bit, would be a good idea. But if its too pricey at the end of the day, I would prefer to see a B&W printed manual that more people can afford than a color one that only a few people would buy. The Black Shark manual is very useable....if anything, tabbed sections would be nice! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Gigabyte GA97XSLI Core i7 4790 @ 4.0 Ghz MSI GTX 1080ti 32 Mb RAM DDR3-2133 512GB SSD for DCS HP Reverb VR HMD Thrustmaster Warthog & MFG Crosswind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deigs Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 ...if anything, tabbed sections would be nice! Oh yes, Tabbed sections would be awesome. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 161 Squadron Australia's DCS Community Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckle Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Oh yes, Tabbed sections would be awesome. Or possibly flat binding. I'd prefer b/w to keep costs down (if I want colour, I'll look at the game), but found the ring binding to be a minor irritation as the pages start to clump after a couple of weeks because they aren't forced to the same margin. Haven't had any pages come out, but it would be nice to be able to fan quickly through for the section I'm looking for, as opposed to the pages separating into lumps. Just a thought, I'll buy it if you print in scroll form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 3 ring binder vs spiral is a very old arguement, way beyond this game :) I remember using ...excuse my old military venacular..."paper assholes" to repair many 3 ring binder T.O. (technical orders) in the USAF on night shift and I prefer spiral myself. The pages don't flip as easy but then again they don't tear out as easy either.... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] System Specs Intel I7-3930K, Asrock EXTREME9, EVGA TITAN, Mushkin Chronos SSD, 16GB G.SKILL Ripjaws Z series 2133, TM Warthog and MFD's, Saitek Proflight Combat pedals, TrackIR 5 + TrackClip PRO, Windows 7 x64, 3-Asus VS2248H-P monitors, Thermaltake Level 10 GT, Obutto cockpit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I would like to add my plea for a Colour, spiral bound manual with Tabs. I'll pay whatever it costs, not that "money is no object" but with the amount of work that has gone into this sim, I see it as being a good investment in my Sim Fun Time for a good few years. i9 9900x at 5.1 Ghz // ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula EK Bloc // 64Gb Corsair Vengence 3600Mhz DDR4 Ram // Gigabyte Aorus 3090 Watercooled block//Samsung SM951 M2 x4 SSD // Windows 10 64 Bit //48inch LG48 @ 3840x2160 120Hz//Asus ROG Swift PG35VQ 3440 x 14440 144Hz // TM Warthog HOTAS (Ser. No. 00836) //MFG Crosswind Pedals // TrackIR 5 //Varjo Aero An old pilot is one who remembers when flying was dangerous and sex was safe. My YouTube DCS World Four Screen Videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAT_101st Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I am on the spiral bound and colour, Tabs optional. I loved the Janes manuals made it easy to go thrue and they were compact. I liked the F/A-18E one the best. It was just the right size. (hint, hint) Home built PC Win 10 Pro 64bit, MB ASUS Z170 WS, 6700K, EVGA 1080Ti Hybrid, 32GB DDR4 3200, Thermaltake 120x360 RAD, Custom built A-10C sim pit, TM WARTHOG HOTAS, Cougar MFD's, 3D printed UFC and Saitek rudders. HTC VIVE VR. https://digitalcombatmercenaries.enjin.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Jaw Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Please ignore the calls for color, who can afford that? "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, ASUS RTX3060ti/8GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafer Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I'm curious if the military prints their manuals in color. No, I am not one of those that must have everything an exact clone of the military. I'm simply just wondering. Mower, Obviously a lot of people could. ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hassata Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Complete with A-10 war stories and tips and tricks from real hog pilots and an optional dvd ala Pete Bonani's Art of the Kill. A man can dream [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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